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Title: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 09, 2011, 08:40:57 PM
O.K. I t seems as if there is enough interest in a UA, flyfishing trip. :uarocks
I think the venue should be bait as well as f/f freindly, and will be decided later.
First off is the date, and some indications of people intersted. ( Some venues can't handle large numbers ).

Sunday 3rd March is good ito moon phase?

And ye say what ? fshg
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2011, 07:42:25 AM
Flows allowing, I'm in! :geet
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 10, 2011, 08:10:25 AM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 10, 2011, 08:16:12 AM


Sunday 3rd March is good ito moon phase?



3rd March is  a Thursday is it 13 March ???
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2011, 08:44:00 AM

3rd March is  a Thursday is it 13 March ???

 :hyst: :hyst: Maybe Herman had too many Windhoek Draughts when he checked his calendar!! :pot:

What about the 5th of March?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 10, 2011, 08:47:38 AM
What about the 5th of March?

Das Gute - Ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2011, 08:50:55 AM
Das Gute - Ja ja ja ja ja ja ja ja

 :grk:

Schweet. Don't worry about flies, leaders etc. - I'll sort you out!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 10, 2011, 08:55:37 AM
Schweet. Don't worry about flies, leaders etc. - I'll sort you out!

Thanks- Rory . I bring the  :beer: :beer: :beer: and  :pot:

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 10, 2011, 09:18:12 AM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: shagnrelease on February 10, 2011, 09:25:26 AM
would love to join you but I am chasing  :billf: until the following weekend  :sadd
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2011, 09:30:50 AM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG

Nice Gavin!! Same thing man, don't worry about flies and leaders, I'll sort you out!

would love to join you but I am chasing  :billf: until the following weekend  :sadd

Well then we'll have to make a plan for the following weekend as well??
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 10, 2011, 09:41:41 AM
Much appreciate it, take it it is a day trip, what sort of time would we meet up etc....

I have yet to catch a fish on fly, well i fowl hook one which didn't count, so you need to put us on the fish and make it happen !!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 10, 2011, 09:42:22 AM
Let the pro show us how it's done !!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Homie on February 10, 2011, 09:44:37 AM
Pencil me in !
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 10, 2011, 09:45:46 AM
Where will we go?
5th is a good date!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 10, 2011, 09:47:06 AM
IF its 5th of March I am in.

Rory,

What flies do I need to tie for the yellows?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2011, 09:52:42 AM
Much appreciate it, take it it is a day trip, what sort of time would we meet up etc....

I have yet to catch a fish on fly, well i fowl hook one which didn't count, so you need to put us on the fish and make it happen !!

Ja we normally arrive early, fish till about midday, have some graze and liquid sustenance, and if anyones up to it, fish the afternoon!

Let the pro show us how it's done !!

Yes - thank goodness Herman is coming along........

Pencil me in !

 :win:

Where will we go?
5th is a good date!

Once numbers are finalised we'll pick a spot!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 10, 2011, 09:57:46 AM
It's on like a scon !!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2011, 10:01:54 AM
IF its 5th of March I am in.

Rory,

What flies do I need to tie for the yellows?

Excellent Gerhard! Control flies like rockworms and caddis imitations will be good, and smaller caddis and mayflies for the point. Even San Juan worms are killers, they always work if the water clarity isn't too good.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 10, 2011, 10:04:36 AM
Excellent Gerhard! Control flies like rockworms and caddis imitations will be good, and smaller caddis and mayflies for the point. Even San Juan worms are killers, they always work if the water clarity isn't too good.

Do you have photos for me...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Poenskop on February 10, 2011, 10:06:34 AM
I will be there.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 10, 2011, 10:11:47 AM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
4) icstuff
5) Gerhard
6) <in pencil>Homie</in pencil>
7) Poenskop


 
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2011, 10:14:58 AM
Do you have photos for me...

Controls something like this:

(http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq6/gizamos_2009/p_slayer.jpg)

(http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq6/gizamos_2009/chart_control-1.jpg)

Points something like this:

(http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq6/gizamos_2009/black_may.jpg)

(http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq6/gizamos_2009/caddis.jpg)

(http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq6/gizamos_2009/sq_cop.jpg)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 10, 2011, 10:16:49 AM
I will be there.

Mooi man! :win:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 10, 2011, 10:19:19 AM
Cool...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: schloshd1 on February 10, 2011, 03:07:59 PM
Eish, 5th March is out for me I'm afraid, I'll be at Ink & Iron.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on February 10, 2011, 04:13:15 PM
Sounds Good gents
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 10, 2011, 07:54:33 PM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
4) icstuff
5) Gerhard
6) <in pencil>Homie</in pencil>
7) Poenskop
8) Herman
8) Monster

and Jup, the Windhoeks had skewed my eyes, I was actually looking at the 3rd April duh duh, but hey the 5th or 6th of March will work as well.

If everyone is ok with the 5th, then it's set in stone.

Now the venue ????  Hmmmmmm, Seasoned Rock Anglers who can handle big waves etc, ( I've seen Monster wade in flats booties and rapids mean nothing to him  w;k ),
so I'm thinking maybe Oord Nebo? ( Flows permitting ).
A great venue with chalets and camping facilities for those who wish to make a full weekend of the trip.

And ye say ????

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: schloshd1 on February 10, 2011, 08:29:35 PM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
4) icstuff
5) Gerhard
6) <in pencil>Homie</in pencil>
7) Poenskop
8) Herman
8) Monster

and Jup, the Windhoeks had skewed my eyes, I was actually looking at the 3rd April duh duh, but hey the 5th or 6th of March will work as well.

If everyone is ok with the 5th, then it's set in stone.

Now the venue ????  Hmmmmmm, Seasoned Rock Anglers who can handle big waves etc, ( I've seen Monster wade in flats booties and rapids mean nothing to him  w;k ),
so I'm thinking maybe Oord Nebo? ( Flows permitting ).
A great venue with chalets and camping facilities for those who wish to make a full weekend of the trip.

And ye say ????

Great choice of venue there Herman. Excellent facilities, good fishing and easy wading.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 11, 2011, 07:55:59 AM
Eish, 5th March is out for me I'm afraid, I'll be at Ink & Iron.

Can't you go on the Sunday??

Sounds Good gents

Mooi man!

......so I'm thinking maybe Oord Nebo? ( Flows permitting ).
A great venue with chalets and camping facilities for those who wish to make a full weekend of the trip.

And ye say ????......

How about a venue thats not so far away???  :dunno:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Kumz on February 11, 2011, 08:02:50 AM
Are u guys gonna teach newbies ??? :clwn
Guys that have no kits or knowledge ???
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 11, 2011, 08:08:23 AM
I am very keen to get yellows but its go to be not to far away as I have to look at my petrol budget and if I can afford it or not...

I am sure this also goes for a lot of the other guys and hope this will be taken in consideration when planning on a venue.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 11, 2011, 08:40:35 AM
Are u guys gonna teach newbies ??? :clwn
Guys that have no kits or knowledge ???

Kumz Herman and Rory are great teachers, I will be there to complete the noob squad!

Jburg Gents wy dont you get togerher and fill up cars split petrol?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Kumz on February 11, 2011, 08:48:44 AM
Kumz Herman and Rory are great teachers, I will be there to complete the noob squad!

Jburg Gents wy dont you get togerher and fill up cars split petrol?


 :tkx:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 11, 2011, 08:57:40 AM
Don't worry Kumz, i am a complete Novice, the reason i am keen to tag along is so that guys like Herman and Rory can show me how it's done, quite a few people joining so it sounds like it's going to be an awesome outing
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: schloshd1 on February 11, 2011, 08:58:48 AM
Can't you go on the Sunday??



Yes, I should be able to do the Sunday. If you guys make a weekend of it I will come through on the Sunday.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: schloshd1 on February 11, 2011, 09:00:53 AM
I am very keen to get yellows but its go to be not to far away as I have to look at my petrol budget and if I can afford it or not...

I am sure this also goes for a lot of the other guys and hope this will be taken in consideration when planning on a venue.

Gerhard, If petrol is a concern why not organise that a few of you go in one car and split the costs? This is what we usually do on Vaal trips.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 11, 2011, 09:03:00 AM
I cant catch  :crb from a 2 dollor Ho with a fly rod either !!! Any body needing a lift is more that welcome to travel with me from Randburg ! My fuel is on the house so no worries .


 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 11, 2011, 09:04:18 AM
Ok,

Lets see who are going and wants to join the saam ry klub.

I do 99.9% of my fishing alone so it would be good to go out with other guys on the water...  w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 11, 2011, 09:12:18 AM
Ok,

Lets see who are going and wants to join the saam ry klub.

I do 99.9% of my fishing alone so it would be good to go out with other guys on the water...  w;k

Fishing alone is like drinking alone - not recommended!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 11, 2011, 09:16:54 AM
My wife uses the Jeep on weekends

I can take plus one in a corsa bakkie, petrol not an issue

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 11, 2011, 09:21:27 AM
Have we decided on venue?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 11, 2011, 09:21:40 AM
Yes, I should be able to do the Sunday. If you guys make a weekend of it I will come through on the Sunday.

LOL - I meant can't you go to the Iron and ink on Sunday :dunno:

Guys, the venue Oord Nebo is really nice, but its past Potch!! Me, I'm not keen on driving all that way for a day/morning session.  :vio Theres lots of wading friendly venues closer by. It only make sense to get lifts from each other, and then we'll meet up at the Engen one stop before Grasmere and drive in convoy from there.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 11, 2011, 09:25:09 AM
My wife uses the Jeep on weekends

I can take plus one in a corsa bakkie, petrol not an issue

My wifie may not drive my Jeep , full stop  !!!!!! :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 11, 2011, 09:29:15 AM
My wifie may not drive my Jeep , full stop  !!!!!! :hnthnt:

Hehe, unfortuantely it has the baby seat and the smash and grab tint, and she loves the fact that the glass door at the back opens seperatley on the keys because it is convenient to pack her groceries  ......   :nuts:

What can a man does..... :dunno:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 11, 2011, 09:39:04 AM
Are we going to do something just below barrage?
If we move it to the 6th there might be less people on the river correct me if me is wrong?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 11, 2011, 09:42:47 AM
Are we going to do something just below barrage?
If we move it to the 6th there might be less people on the river correct me if me is wrong?

Don't worry icstuff, once i start making my wild casts the crowds will soon disperse
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: schloshd1 on February 11, 2011, 09:43:34 AM
LOL - I meant can't you go to the Iron and ink on Sunday :dunno:


My bad . .  .  No, I'm going with  my artist and she's only going on the Saturday.  :sadd
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 11, 2011, 09:45:03 AM
Don't worry icstuff, once i start making my wild casts the crowds will soon disperse

I will leave my rod at home and bring a video camera to catch the action for youtube!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 11, 2011, 09:51:18 AM
I will leave my rod at home and bring a video camera to catch the action for youtube!

LOL... ok it won't be that bad   :hyst:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 11, 2011, 09:55:57 AM
Are we going to do something just below barrage?
If we move it to the 6th there might be less people on the river correct me if me is wrong?

I think below the barrage is better, much closer than Potch!! Sundays are usually a bit quieter but you never can tell. I think most of the guys here would prefer Saturday?

Don't worry icstuff, once i start making my wild casts the crowds will soon disperse

Hee hee hee, no man this is the Vaal river, the fish are a rod length away from you! No long line casting required!

My bad . .  .  No, I'm going with  my artist and she's only going on the Saturday.  :sadd

Bring her fishing in the morning and then go through in the afternoon!! :hyst:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Homie on February 11, 2011, 10:05:24 AM
Ok, How far is this ??? Kms from 4ways ???

I can take my bakkie, plus 1 (plus 3 id 2 guys dont mind sitting in the clubcab portion)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 11, 2011, 10:08:00 AM
Ok, How far is this ??? Kms from 4ways ???

I can take my bakkie, plus 1 (plus 3 id 2 guys dont mind sitting in the clubcab portion)

Approx 100 kms. About an hours drive, most of the drive is on the freeway. Have you got a flyrod?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 11, 2011, 10:21:04 AM
Just remember a wading stick!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: shagnrelease on February 11, 2011, 10:29:43 AM
You guys are going to have to plan another one of these soon so I can make, been itching to get back on the river.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 11, 2011, 10:30:36 AM
Fishing alone is like drinking alone - not recommended!

I enjoy fishing alone...  :hnthnt:

As for drinking alone... Would not know as I dont drink...  w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 11, 2011, 10:34:04 AM
I enjoy fishing alone...  :hnthnt:

As for drinking alone... Would not know as I dont drink...  w;k

Let me rephrase:

Fishing alone is like playing golf alone... Easier toe lie   :crzy
But you are right, more enjoyable
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 11, 2011, 10:37:37 AM
Let me rephrase:

Fishing alone is like playing golf alone... Easier toe lie   :crzy
But you are right, more enjoyable

Nope,

Photos dont lie....

If I said thats what I caught its on photo as proof... lol

Like this lady...

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Jakkals/Fishing/P1060002.jpg)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 11, 2011, 10:52:54 AM
Nope,

Photos dont lie....

If I said thats what I caught its on photo as proof... lol

Like this lady...

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Jakkals/Fishing/P1060002.jpg)

Gerhard I know you can fish and would not lie - just some friendly banter
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 11, 2011, 11:09:59 AM
 :crzy  :crzy  :crzy

I know  :rck"  :hnthnt:  :rck"  :hnthnt:


But it would be good to take some nice photos of fish for someone else and to get my 1st sm on fly....  fshg
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: woerman on February 11, 2011, 02:16:36 PM
Oh crap, Now I will have to come along to keep an eye on you guys!!!

Sounds good because I still need to catch a yellow on fly.

1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
4) icstuff
5) Gerhard
6) <in pencil>Homie</in pencil>
7) Poenskop
8) Herman
8) Monster
9) Woerman
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 11, 2011, 02:46:44 PM
Oh crap, Now I will have to come along to keep an eye on you guys!!!

Sounds good because I still need to catch a yellow on fly.

1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
4) icstuff
5) Gerhard
6) <in pencil>Homie</in pencil>
7) Poenskop
8) Herman
8) Monster
9) Woerman

Mooi man!!
Hell I hope the flows have settled by then!!!!!!!!!!! :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 11, 2011, 03:29:00 PM
Great to see so much interest.
I agree with Rory ito venue, oord Nebo is a bit far.
How about Eastco guys, also has tons of water, fairly easy wading and good facilities?

Do you guys prefer the Sat, or would the Sunday be more suitable ?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Kumz on February 12, 2011, 06:44:42 AM
if it is on a Sat ... i will be keen to attend ...
i need lessons & i may get a few other guys to join .... w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 12, 2011, 05:20:14 PM
It's looking like the Sat 5th of March, is the day. Rory, will you be able to make that day ?, and if so, what are the chances of a keg ?  (clap) :happ: :rck"
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 14, 2011, 08:56:03 AM
It's looking like the Sat 5th of March, is the day. Rory, will you be able to make that day ?, and if so, what are the chances of a keg ?  (clap) :happ: :rck"

I'll be there - klaar ge-organise!  (hap Being at the mercy of the flow rate, its pointless ordering a keg - everyone must bring their own liquid refreshments.
All the guys going for their first "Vaal Shuffle" please check this thread:
http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,510.0.html (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,510.0.html)
This is the setup I recommend you start with, its not the be all and end all of setups but has accounted for plenty plenty fish.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 14, 2011, 09:11:55 AM
Silly question, do we need waders ?

Also for the fishing we going to be doing, do we use floating, intermediate or sinking line ?

The reason i ask is i am setup with floating line, i know the tippet can do the necessary sinking when needed

I am clueless when it comes to this facet
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 14, 2011, 09:13:52 AM
No you don't need a wader, although it makes it more comfortable. 
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Christo on February 14, 2011, 09:19:19 AM
Morning gents, Quickbite and I are also keen to join you boys on the day, need some tutoring and guidance from the xperts.
I have been trying for yellows for 2 years now with little success, need to step up my game OR the wife gonna sell my tackle,lol.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 14, 2011, 09:43:25 AM
Silly question, do we need waders ?

Also for the fishing we going to be doing, do we use floating, intermediate or sinking line ?

The reason i ask is i am setup with floating line, i know the tippet can do the necessary sinking when needed

I am clueless when it comes to this facet

Waders are up to you. I think more important though are good non slip shoes!! The wading in the Vaal can be nasty!! Ja we'll fish floating lines, not that you'll end up using much of the flyline.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 14, 2011, 09:49:27 AM
 :tkx:   for the feedback guys, really looking forward to this one, hope all the elements come together for the 5th
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 14, 2011, 09:53:46 AM
:tkx:   for the feedback guys, really looking forward to this one, hope all the elements come together for the 5th

Me too!! Theres nothing worse than getting amped for a trip and then it falls through!! (bat I'm watching the flows like a hawk!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 14, 2011, 09:56:31 AM
Perhaps this trip needs to be discussed in more detail at that watering hole of yours in Midrand on Friday   :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 14, 2011, 10:18:01 AM
Perhaps this trip needs to be discussed in more detail at that watering hole of yours in Midrand on Friday   :hnthnt:

Superb idea! Good man. Strong man.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: AdrianPowrie on February 14, 2011, 10:21:33 AM
Eish, 5th March is out for me I'm afraid, I'll be at Ink & Iron.

Are you going to do some more work on your back?

The guys are saying this should be the best one yet! It will be the first one that I am missing ever!!! Got to be in Durban for some family obligations!! My Dad will be there though, dunno how he got out of the wedding...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: schloshd1 on February 14, 2011, 03:30:22 PM
Are you going to do some more work on your back?

The guys are saying this should be the best one yet! It will be the first one that I am missing ever!!! Got to be in Durban for some family obligations!! My Dad will be there though, dunno how he got out of the wedding...

No, not before the convention. Started on the black shading last weekend. Just going with Glen and Tory to see how the pieces that they enter do. Tory especially is entering a few stunning pieces. Sucks you cant make it.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: AdrianPowrie on February 14, 2011, 03:47:19 PM
Ja, I am pretty bleek that I wont be there...

Take your camera!!! There be some proper work to be seen! The chick that wins back every year should be there, Ask Grant McNicol to point her out if you cant find her! He is the owner of the Jol. Legend oke and a good friend of mine & my Tops...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 14, 2011, 04:59:14 PM
I would like to join in on this one please? What venue are you guys thinking of going to?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 15, 2011, 08:00:24 AM
Hey ET, just copy and paste the list of names and and yours in the reply

Rory and the guys will be finalising everything, just keep following this thread for details
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 15, 2011, 11:29:17 AM
I would like to join in on this one please? What venue are you guys thinking of going to?

At last a real pro to help out!! :hnthnt: Koos we looking at Eastco, its close by with plenty water for everyone.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 15, 2011, 11:32:46 AM
At last a real pro to help out!! :hnthnt: Koos we looking at Eastco, its close by with plenty water for everyone.

Cool I am in. I will Pro-beer and catch something on the day... fshg
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 15, 2011, 11:40:41 AM
Cool I am in. I will Pro-beer and catch something on the day... fshg

We are all Pro Beer apart from Gerhard who is Pro Coke!

Are we settled on Eastco?
is that the spot about 12km from Parys on the R500?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 15, 2011, 11:43:37 AM
We are all Pro Beer apart from Gerhard who is Pro Coke!

Lol! Koos doesn't dop either, he likes Olive oil though....

Are we settled on Eastco?
is that the spot about 12km from Parys on the R500?

Thats the place Pieter, you been there before?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 15, 2011, 11:48:32 AM
Lol! Koos doesn't dop either, he likes Olive oil though....

The Pepper Flavor seems to go down distinctively :crzy
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 15, 2011, 11:49:48 AM
I googled it - Found a pick of the turnoff on google earth as well
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 15, 2011, 11:49:58 AM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
4) icstuff
5) Gerhard
6) <in pencil>Homie</in pencil>
7) Poenskop
8) Herman
8) Monster
9) Woerman
10)Mussle cracker

it has been awhile but i am sure i will get with the "flow"
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 15, 2011, 11:50:47 AM
and this is just so i go to 100 posts ..lol
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 15, 2011, 11:51:31 AM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
4) icstuff
5) Gerhard
6) <in pencil>Homie</in pencil>
7) Poenskop
8) Herman
8) Monster
9) Woerman
10)Mussle cracker

it has been awhile but i am sure i will get with the "flow"

Excellent!  :happ:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 15, 2011, 11:53:06 AM
We can almost make this the Ultimate Social!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 15, 2011, 11:54:38 AM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
4) icstuff
5) Gerhard
6) <in pencil>Homie</in pencil>
7) Poenskop
8) Herman
8) Monster
9) Woerman
10)Mussle cracker
11)ET
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 15, 2011, 11:55:26 AM
The Pepper Flavor seems to go down distinctively :crzy

Everybody lubes his own way ...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 15, 2011, 12:00:04 PM
does anyone need a lift and can i find this address on my garmen...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 15, 2011, 12:08:05 PM
does anyone need a lift and can i find this address on my garmen...

The turnoff is here:
26 49'08.48"S
27 29'39.50"E

There are Signs further down the road
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 15, 2011, 12:13:22 PM
Thanks ic.....

Ok is it on the 5th or the 6th...cause it seems to have changed a few times....what time is everyone meeting there...

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 15, 2011, 12:15:12 PM
Is this the place ?

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 15, 2011, 12:25:46 PM
Thanks ic.....

Ok is it on the 5th or the 6th...cause it seems to have changed a few times....what time is everyone meeting there...

Saturday the 5th

Is this the place ?

 :grk:

No the spot is on the vaal - just north of Parys - Freestate
But don't stress its on the Gauteng side
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 15, 2011, 12:34:15 PM
@icstuff do we need to bring our own drinking water ?

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 15, 2011, 12:38:02 PM
@icstuff do we need to bring our own drinking water ?

 :grk:

why do you want water if there is brandy..????
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 15, 2011, 12:41:22 PM
why do you want water if there is brandy..????

Agree , just giving Icstuff some s%$# !

The Oak digs his Vaaltriangle H2O !

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 15, 2011, 12:54:02 PM
If anyone needs a rod and reel i have a few spare...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 15, 2011, 12:56:10 PM
@icstuff do we need to bring our own drinking water ?

 :grk:

No down here we drink straight out of the river - like real men
Sissies Bring Bottled water, the only bottled refreshments we allow are beer and for teetotalers Coke(Can be mixed with brandy).
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 15, 2011, 12:58:36 PM
No down here we drink straight out of the river - like real men
Sissies Bring Bottled water, the only bottled refreshments we allow are beer and for teetotalers Coke(Can be mixed with brandy).

Thought so just checking . w;k
 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 15, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
No down here we drink straight out of the river - like real men
Sissies Bring Bottled water, the only bottled refreshments we allow are beer and for teetotalers Coke(Can be mixed with brandy).

Yea,

I wanna see you mix straight from the river and then I wanna see you medical bills a month after....  :hnthnt:  :hnthnt:  :nuts:  :nuts: :hyst:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 15, 2011, 01:09:20 PM
If anyone needs a rod and reel i have a few spare...

What brands? I love freebies!!!!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 15, 2011, 01:27:14 PM
Yea,

I wanna see you mix straight from the river and then I wanna see you medical bills a month after....  :hnthnt:  :hnthnt:  :nuts:  :nuts: :hyst:

Yes! it would include burial costs as well
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on February 15, 2011, 02:17:04 PM
Me thinks iets going to be awesome!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: woerman on February 15, 2011, 02:34:30 PM
If anyone needs a rod and reel i have a few spare...

I also have a spare available
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 15, 2011, 06:59:17 PM
I also have a spare available

2 Freebies in one day....Whoopee!!! :happ:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 15, 2011, 09:01:27 PM
OHHHH VAAAAAY, What have I created :nuts:

Methinks I should phone and see if we can get a discount for numbers. w;k

Rory, you had better organise a keg, IMMEDIATELY, 'cos I have a feeling that this is going to be a GOOD Vaal trip. :rck" :happ: :appr:

P.S. Anyone that has spare f/f rigs, bring them all with, as well as evry fly you have ever tied. I have a funny feeling that there could be enough rigs, but not enough flies. :shk
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Christo on February 16, 2011, 02:28:16 PM
1) Rory
2) Lichia Amia
3) BigG
4) icstuff
5) Gerhard
6) <in pencil>Homie</in pencil>
7) Poenskop
8) Herman
8) Monster
9) Woerman
10)Mussle cracker
11)ET
12) Quickbite
13) Christo
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 16, 2011, 09:23:58 PM
Ok, I'm picking rory up at 5:00. The go threw.
Koos, you want a lift, seeing you just astone throw away, and I need a good laught that time of the morning.
We leave at 4h00 to be at rory,s place by 5. I have space for 2 more gents.
The prado she is bigg!!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 17, 2011, 11:39:22 AM
Ok, I'm picking rory up at 5:00. The go threw.
Koos, you want a lift, seeing you just astone throw away, and I need a good laught that time of the morning.
We leave at 4h00 to be at rory,s place by 5. I have space for 2 more gents.
The prado she is bigg!!

I think i must get Rorys address, then i can meet you guys there leave my bakkie there and we can drive together ?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 17, 2011, 11:49:04 AM
I think i must get Rorys address, then i can meet you guys there leave my bakkie there and we can drive together ?

No probs. We'll meet the rest of the guys halfway to the river at the Engen one stop at grasmere, and go in convoy from there!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 17, 2011, 11:50:13 AM
No probs. We'll meet the rest of the guys halfway to the river at the Engen one stop at grasmere, and go in convoy from there!

Sounds like a road trip to me   :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 17, 2011, 01:39:10 PM
No probs. We'll meet the rest of the guys halfway to the river at the Engen one stop at grasmere, and go in convoy from there!

what time are we going to meet at the engen..does anyone need a lift from boksburg side ..i am going in my d/cad ..there wont be space in the back cause i need to fit my coolerbox in the back.... :clwn
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 17, 2011, 02:04:45 PM
Ok, I'm picking rory up at 5:00. The go threw.
Koos, you want a lift, seeing you just astone throw away, and I need a good laught that time of the morning.
We leave at 4h00 to be at rory,s place by 5. I have space for 2 more gents.
The prado she is bigg!!

Hoe groot is daai Prado? Ek sweer ek sit nie weer soos 'n hoender op 'n stelasie nie!!!
As ek moet sit soos 'n Daddy Long Legs agter in, dan wil ek eerder maar met my eie kar gaan. As daar genoeg plek vir my is, sal ek like om saam te ry dankie. w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 17, 2011, 02:25:00 PM
Koos, die prado is so groot soos n fortuna. 5 mense kan gemaklik sit.
Jy sal nie weer soos n sardyn in n visblik sit nie. Ga net ek, jy, rory en BigG wees.
PM my jou adress asb
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 17, 2011, 02:29:29 PM
Koos, die prado is so groot soos n fortuna. 5 mense kan gemaklik sit.
Jy sal nie weer soos n sardyn in n visblik sit nie. Ga net ek, jy, rory en BigG wees.
PM my jou adress asb

Nou daai klink nou vir my heel gaaf :happ:

PM gestuur... w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 18, 2011, 09:16:14 AM
Gents -really amped about this trip - i just need to know what flies to get....

Please help..  Lichia amia  (Craig) i sent you an email ....

@ Rory - is Eastco -the same road as Woelwaters ?? and whats damage at Eastco?

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 18, 2011, 09:21:41 AM


Please help..  Lichia amia  (Craig) i sent you an email ....



Quickbite you and Chris are more than welcome to catch a lift with me  w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 18, 2011, 09:43:42 AM
Quickbite you and Chris are more than welcome to catch a lift with me  w;k

ThanksCraig- will call you on the 4th ... leka
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 18, 2011, 10:36:55 AM
Rory - is Eastco -the same road as Woelwaters ?? and whats damage at Eastco?

Quick, I'm not to sure where Woelwaters is, but Eastco is on the R500 just before Parys. If my brittle memory serves me correctly, the Aunty charges per vehicle and per person. I'm sure Herman will remember the figures!

Guys I'm concerned that the flow rate is not going to drop enough to allow us to fish properly. I think the first run at Eastco will be fishable in stronger flows though, but we'll only really be able to tell when we get there.

So I'm thinking that even if the flows are too high to fish we should still make an outing of the Saturday regardless, seeing as though most guys have committed. There are some very experienced guys joining us and we can pick their brains, discuss setups and techniques etc. have a braai and socialise?

And you all say?????
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 18, 2011, 10:45:38 AM
I say go, even if we cant fish we can have a nice social.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 18, 2011, 10:47:21 AM
Yes, please!!!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 18, 2011, 10:50:02 AM
I say go, even if we cant fish we can have a nice social.

Yes, please!!!

Good form that. Good men. Strong men. :ult:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 18, 2011, 10:51:34 AM
We can even get homie to bring his braai stand, if he is still coming!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 18, 2011, 11:01:30 AM
Quick, I'm not to sure where Woelwaters is, but Eastco is on the R500 just before Parys. If my brittle memory serves me correctly, the Aunty charges per vehicle and per person. I'm sure Herman will remember the figures!

Guys I'm concerned that the flow rate is not going to drop enough to allow us to fish properly. I think the first run at Eastco will be fishable in stronger flows though, but we'll only really be able to tell when we get there.

So I'm thinking that even if the flows are too high to fish we should still make an outing of the Saturday regardless, seeing as though most guys have committed. There are some very experienced guys joining us and we can pick their brains, discuss setups and techniques etc. have a braai and socialise?

And you all say?????


Thanks Rory- what flies you reccomend i get...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Homie on February 18, 2011, 11:06:24 AM
We can even get homie to bring his braai stand, if he is still coming!


Sounds like a plan !!!!
I'll confirm closer
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 18, 2011, 11:09:43 AM

Thanks Rory- what flies you reccomend i get...

Most of the tackle shops have a dedicated section for yellowfish flies. The tried and trusted would be along these lines:
Hot spot Mayfly nymphs #14 - #16
San jaun worms #14 - #16
Gold ribbed hares ear nymphs (natural, black and olive) #14 - #16
Green rock worms (also look for grey, peacock and natural) #10 - #12
Mutard caddis #10 - #12

While you at the tackle shop, get some strike indicators, a spool of .22mm Maxima and don't be scared to bring the split shot! Don't buy the tapered leaders for fishing the Vaal.  w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 18, 2011, 11:15:43 AM
Most of the tackle shops have a dedicated section for yellowfish flies. The tried and trusted would be along these lines:
Hot spot Mayfly nymphs #14 - #16
San jaun worms #14 - #16
Gold ribbed hares ear nymphs (natural, black and olive) #14 - #16
Green rock worms (also look for grey, peacock and natural) #10 - #12
Mutard caddis #10 - #12

While you at the tackle shop, get some strike indicators, a spool of .22mm Maxima and don't be scared to bring the split shot! Don't buy the tapered leaders for fishing the Vaal.  w;k

Rory, which shop would be the best to shop for Flies with out taking an almighty spanking?

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 18, 2011, 11:25:33 AM
Rory, which shop would be the best to shop for Flies with out taking an almighty spanking?

 :grk:

Generally the flies aren't too pricey if you buy the packs of 3.
When you look at the custom tied flies, they gonna rip you a new one. swr

Have a look at the list I posted, that should sort you out. I'll tie up a span of Humpy's Favourites to dish out. 
I'll try convince Herman, Koos and Nico to tie some good control flies to bring with. Nudge, nudge, nudge, hint, hint........
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 18, 2011, 11:26:14 AM
Sorry - Mias or Sollys!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 18, 2011, 12:03:49 PM
I'm still onboard, if Homie can't make it(he better make it) i'll bring my little braai
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 18, 2011, 12:18:43 PM
I'm still onboard, if Homie can't make it(he better make it) i'll bring my little braai

Homies gonna make it. We will pack out  Amstel bottles from his front door to the car, which he is sure to follow and then Homie-nap him.

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 18, 2011, 12:22:05 PM
Homies gonna make it. We will pack out  Amstel bottles from his front door to the car, which he is sure to follow and then Homie-nap him.

 :grk:

Great, i'll bring the amstels..  :hehe:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 18, 2011, 03:31:07 PM
Most of the tackle shops have a dedicated section for yellowfish flies. The tried and trusted would be along these lines:
Hot spot Mayfly nymphs #14 - #16
San jaun worms #14 - #16
Gold ribbed hares ear nymphs (natural, black and olive) #14 - #16
Green rock worms (also look for grey, peacock and natural) #10 - #12
Mutard caddis #10 - #12

While you at the tackle shop, get some strike indicators, a spool of .22mm Maxima and don't be scared to bring the split shot! Don't buy the tapered leaders for fishing the Vaal.  w;k

Thanks for the shopping list Rory  :tkx:

Purchase made    :sml:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 20, 2011, 06:37:33 PM
Sorry for being absent for a while. sry

Rory's list of flys covers the range for any venue on the Vaal. I think his best tip was, don't forget the splitshot. :clwn. If you see you are not getting down, it's so much quicker to clinch a shot on than change flies. Also heavier flies, normally = bigger flies, and then you may just be outsizing the food.

As far as damages are concerned, the last time we were there, it was R150, for 2 people.
There is a rate per vehicle, plus per person.
Seeing that this is am epic trip, I will phone them during the course of the week, and see if I can't get a " BULK DISCOUNT".  w;k

If anyone is wanting directions, but can not join the convoy from the Engen 1 stop on the N1 Sth to bloem, let me know where you are coming from, and I'll do my best to get you there.

OH HELL. I've just remebered that SALOON 2000 is open on Saterdays. :happ: Is anyone going to get home on Sat night. SWAMBOS = :unhap (bat :vio
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 22, 2011, 03:01:13 PM

Seeing that this is am epic trip, I will phone them during the course of the week, and see if I can't get a " BULK DISCOUNT".  w;k


Good man. Strong man. :tkx:


Just had a look at the DWAF website, the flows are coming down big time. Looks like they're finally closing the sluice gates!! (hap (hap
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: diamonddogs on February 22, 2011, 03:10:06 PM
EASTCO Information

Anyone need more info on Eastco - pictures, the accommodation, fishing , price etc. have a look at this:

http://tinyurl.com/6cekcr9 (http://tinyurl.com/6cekcr9)

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 22, 2011, 08:27:52 PM

Just had a look at the DWAF website, the flows are coming down big time. Looks like they're finally closing the sluice gates!! (hap (hap

Just had a peek at the flows myself. Goosebay at 49. If it drops to 30 odd during this week, stays there untill Thursday next week, and on Friday next week rises to around 60, then it's WHOOOOPPPPEEEE. fshg fshg :happ: :happ:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 22, 2011, 09:46:00 PM
EASTCO Information

Anyone need more info on Eastco - pictures, the accommodation, fishing , price etc. have a look at this:

http://tinyurl.com/6cekcr9 (http://tinyurl.com/6cekcr9)

Mario, you're a scholar and a gentleman sir. Cred for you. Any chance that you can join us?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: diamonddogs on February 23, 2011, 08:13:50 AM
Would absolutely love to Rory but next week-end is already fully booked with family responsibility stuff.  I am however heading out to the river this week-end with one member of the United Nations (The good doctor's son). Not sure where yet - either Eastco or Oord Nebo. Might give Eastco a try and make sure the likkewaan is fully awake to scare the living sh1t out of all the newbies on your trip next week-end.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 23, 2011, 08:35:22 AM
If you go to eastco, will you give us a report back next week?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 23, 2011, 08:42:32 AM
There is a chance that I might bring a friend along for the day next weekend.
Will confirm next week.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: diamonddogs on February 23, 2011, 09:17:07 AM
If you go to eastco, will you give us a report back next week?

Will do - with the high flows we had I reckon the river is still full of food and the clarity is going to be a bit shocking to say the least.
Will have to use search patterns such as hot head brassies etc.
My favourite flies for Eastco have always been a normal GRHE in conjunction with a Mustard Caddis control but I guess I will have to try something else this week-end.

My tip would be a Humpy's Favourite fished with an orange tungsten bead black nymph.

(https://secure.theflyfactory.co.uk/web/media/com_hikashop/upload/hh-pheasanttail-orange12_150922661.jpg)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 23, 2011, 10:58:43 AM
Flows are currantly at 40. So its looking good for the 5th
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 23, 2011, 11:03:18 AM
Flows are currantly at 40. So its looking good for the 5th

Nou praat jy. Ek is woes lus vir die 5de!!! :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 24, 2011, 11:36:33 AM
Seems as the flows are a rollercoaster at the moment.
Just reely hope it will settle by next week.
Currantly at 46
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 24, 2011, 08:25:26 PM
This thread has died a suddend death!! Is it just me and rory stoked about this trip?
Camon, gents, this will be a memorable trip! Were are the days that we had 50 to 60 pages of people responding to this?
@Big G, you wana catch a lift with us and park your car at Rory's? Have something blue in the cabual!
@Koos, you indicated that someone is joining you? You driving alone or with us?
Peeps, if all else fails, ill still go! Come hell or high water, I need this brake!
Am I the only one stocked for this trip? This is Ultimate angling, on not some backstreet operating forum! We go BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
Let's hear it!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 24, 2011, 08:39:34 PM
Sorry that I've been so scarce. :oops:

The flows are looking good, and barring a cyclone should stay that way.

I still need to contact Eastco, ito a discount for numbers, but will do so before next Friday.

At this late stage, I must re-iterate Rory's advice. Have decent footwear guys. Sandals, Rockies, or barefoot will just leave you in pain, as well as p!ssed off.

Also wading sticks. A broom handle, cut off at rib height, drill a hole through one end, through which you attach about 2m of ski rope, and then nail a rubber stopper on the other end.

Wrap some insulation tape around the top for your "handle" ( to avoid splinters ) and you are done. w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 08:14:56 AM
Sorry that I've been so scarce. :oops:

The flows are looking good, and barring a cyclone should stay that way.

I still need to contact Eastco, ito a discount for numbers, but will do so before next Friday.

At this late stage, I must re-iterate Rory's advice. Have decent footwear guys. Sandals, Rockies, or barefoot will just leave you in pain, as well as p!ssed off.

Also wading sticks. A broom handle, cut off at rib height, drill a hole through one end, through which you attach about 2m of ski rope, and then nail a rubber stopper on the other end.

Wrap some insulation tape around the top for your "handle" ( to avoid splinters ) and you are done. w;k


I will do a tutorial on the broom wading stick this weekend, takes 5mins to make.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 25, 2011, 08:30:03 AM
Thanks -i need to to see how to make wading stick....

i was going to steal the mop and home and unscrew the hea- n use that ....

i got gumboots- for footing - hope that fine

Going shopping this weekend - for flies- line etc .... so even if i am in hospital next weekend- pls can some1 wheel me there :)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 08:39:23 AM
Gumboots will fill with water and you will drown, rather use an old pair of tackies, then we can fall together.

I think there should be a straf dop for everyone that falls.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 25, 2011, 08:42:35 AM
Gumboots will fill with water and you will drown, rather use an old pair of tackies, then we can fall together.

I think there should be a straf dop for everyone that falls.

lol- i think u should just give me the bottle now then...

i got holes in the gumboots - and i cut them to my ankle- so i hope that helps :)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 25, 2011, 08:43:19 AM
This thread has died a suddend death!! Is it just me and rory stoked about this trip?
Camon, gents, this will be a memorable trip! Were are the days that we had 50 to 60 pages of people responding to this?
@Big G, you wana catch a lift with us and park your car at Rory's? Have something blue in the cabual!
@Koos, you indicated that someone is joining you? You driving alone or with us?
Peeps, if all else fails, ill still go! Come hell or high water, I need this brake!
Am I the only one stocked for this trip? This is Ultimate angling, on not some backstreet operating forum! We go BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
Let's hear it!

hey Hooch, i am onboard still, i think i need this more than any of you
Looking forward to this one, yes, if it is still in order, i will leave my car at Rory's and meet you guys there, i'll bring some padkos  :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 08:52:40 AM
Ask rory and herman, last time I was with them I fished in old tackies and did not fall once!
This time I have a wading stick and I know that I will have a dip! IF you walk carefully you should be fine
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: woerman on February 25, 2011, 09:07:21 AM
Guys, unfortunately I have to pull out.  I forgot its the same weekend my son is getting
baptized and I have a house full of guests.  Hopefully we will have another trip like this
soon - I think its going to be EPIC.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on February 25, 2011, 10:27:03 AM
Looks like I am not gonna make it.....

We start moving warehouses next week....  :sadd  :cry:  :cry: :sadd
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 25, 2011, 10:30:49 AM


......i got gumboots- for footing - hope that fine ......



Gumboots will fill with water and you will drown, rather use an old pair of tackies, then we can fall together.

I think there should be a straf dop for everyone that falls.

Quick -  I have to agree with ICstuff here, rather wear a pair of trainers/takkies. Surprisingly, safety boots actually make very good wading boots, as well as those canvas military type boots.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 25, 2011, 10:33:57 AM
Quick -  I have to agree with ICstuff here, rather wear a pair of trainers/takkies. Surprisingly, safety boots actually make very good wading boots, as well as those canvas military type boots.

Okay- just wanted to find out - because i know that waders come with boots ...

is it a must to have a wader??

Old takkies it is then :)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 25, 2011, 11:27:38 AM
Quick,
For summer its ok to wade without a wader, as long as your family jewls don't get wet.
For a tall man like me its not a problem. On our last trip I waded without a wader, and it was alright.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 25, 2011, 11:38:36 AM
Quick,
For summer its ok to wade without a wader, as long as your family jewls don't get wet.
For a tall man like me its not a problem. On our last trip I waded without a wader, and it was alright.

Even if i was tall i would have a problem...lol...

waders are for girls...if it get to cold you havent had enough to drink
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 11:40:53 AM
Even if i was tall i would have a problem...lol...

waders are for girls...if it get to cold you havent had enough to drink

And if you fall the wader wont help you at all
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 25, 2011, 11:47:12 AM


waders are for girls...if it get to cold you havent had enough to drink


 :hyst: :hyst: :hyst:

Say no to  :wtr:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 25, 2011, 12:23:04 PM
And the preparation starts ....

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 25, 2011, 12:26:34 PM
And the preparation starts ....

 :grk:

Nice- Craig- what is that white thingys on the top of pic?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 25, 2011, 12:31:22 PM
Nice- Craig- what is that white thingys on the top of pic?



Strike indicators  fshg
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 25, 2011, 12:33:16 PM


Strike indicators  fshg

Nice- very fancy ..i use a normal shad bung  :merm
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 25, 2011, 12:36:51 PM
OK, what time shall we meet at the engen one stop.
We will leave @ 4 from pta north, pick rory up at 5. Me thinks around 5h45 for 6 at the engen garage?
What you say?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 25, 2011, 12:38:19 PM
OK, what time shall we meet at the engen one stop.
We will leave @ 4 from pta north, pick rory up at 5. Me thinks around 5h45 for 6 at the engen garage?
What you say?

Das Gute - Ja ja ja ja ja ja  :geet (clap)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 25, 2011, 12:39:48 PM
OK, what time shall we meet at the engen one stop.
We will leave @ 4 from pta north, pick rory up at 5. Me thinks around 5h45 for 6 at the engen garage?
What you say?

Sounds perfect!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 12:41:10 PM
OK, what time shall we meet at the engen one stop.
We will leave @ 4 from pta north, pick rory up at 5. Me thinks around 5h45 for 6 at the engen garage?
What you say?

How about I leave at 5:30 and see you at eastco 5:45? Will you chaps pick me up a coffee at the one stop?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 25, 2011, 12:44:51 PM
How about I leave at 5:30 and see you at eastco 5:45? Will you chaps pick me up a coffee at the one stop?

Theres coffee, and then theres COFFEE......... :pot:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 12:47:40 PM
Theres coffee, and then theres COFFEE......... :pot:

On second thought I wont trust the people who had to drive for more than 20mins!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 25, 2011, 12:51:44 PM
On second thought I wont trust the people who had to drive for more than 20mins!

But then I won't be doing any driving at all!!! :hnthnt: :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 12:59:18 PM
But then I won't be doing any driving at all!!! :hnthnt: :hnthnt:
:win:

Sharp like a Minora blade is ons nie!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 25, 2011, 01:05:52 PM
Christo

I will be coming alone. My mate is not joining us. This will free up space for all my gear in your car. What time did you say you will pick me up?

Really looking forward to next weekend.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 25, 2011, 01:23:19 PM
So 4h00. Sal jou in die week bel.
Wou jy van die braided mono gehad het?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 25, 2011, 01:24:06 PM
:win:

Sharp like a Minora blade is ons nie!

Hee hee hee, so back to the original question: Hoe vat jy jou koffie? :pot:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 01:25:19 PM
My coffee has to be pure
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 25, 2011, 01:27:32 PM
My coffee has to be pure

Exactly the way I like it! Good man!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 25, 2011, 01:28:05 PM
Ok so lets start again...who is all going so i can organize some boerie and steak for the boys..
i will make boerie rolls and steak rolls..

1) mussle cracker + coolerbox + braai + boerie + steak
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 25, 2011, 01:40:36 PM
Thanks Darren
Put me down for a steak roll please.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 01:43:12 PM
I would also like some, but what do we owe you and don't say "nothing"
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on February 25, 2011, 01:43:45 PM
Ok so lets start again...who is all going so i can organize some boerie and steak for the boys..
i will make boerie rolls and steak rolls..

1) mussle cracker + coolerbox + braai + boerie + steak

 (hap (hap
You have to let us split the costs with you!!

1) mussle cracker + coolerbox + braai + boerie + steak
2) Hooch
3) ET
4) BigG
5) Rory
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 25, 2011, 01:44:28 PM
no worries my treat....

I am going to do a steak roll and a boerie roll for everyone ..i will bring some coldrinks and water aswell..

i have a big coolerbox....
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on February 25, 2011, 01:52:07 PM
1) mussle cracker + coolerbox + braai + boerie + steak
2) Hooch
3) ET
4) BigG
5) Rory
6) Lichia Amia

Thanks mussle cracker  :resp:  :beer:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 25, 2011, 02:11:21 PM
1) mussle cracker + coolerbox + braai + boerie + steak
2) Hooch
3) ET
4) BigG
5) Rory
6) Lichia Amia
7 ) Herman.

Thanks Boss :happ:

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on February 25, 2011, 02:15:12 PM
Gumboots will fill with water and you will drown, rather use an old pair of tackies, then we can fall together.

I think there should be a straf dop for everyone that falls.

Remember guys, there are only two kinds of fishermen who wade the Vaal.

Those who have fallen, :unhap
'
'
'
'
and those who are YET to fall. :hehe: :hehe:


If you fish the Vaal often enough, you WILL fall. :crzy :crzy :crzy
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 25, 2011, 02:56:28 PM
1) mussle cracker + coolerbox + braai + boerie + steak
2) Hooch
3) ET
4) BigG
5) Rory
6) Lichia Amia
7 ) Herman.
8.) icstuff

Thank you great and mighty king of Boksburg

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 25, 2011, 04:52:54 PM
So 4h00. Sal jou in die week bel.
Wou jy van die braided mono gehad het?

Cool. Braided Mono? As jy het en jy wil vir my ook gee, dan is dit kwaai, thanx w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on February 25, 2011, 04:54:59 PM
no worries my treat....

I am going to do a steak roll and a boerie roll for everyone ..i will bring some coldrinks and water aswell..

i have a big coolerbox....

Thanx, that will be awesome. :win:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 25, 2011, 10:47:45 PM
no worries my treat....

I am going to do a steak roll and a boerie roll for everyone ..i will bring some coldrinks and water aswell..

i have a big coolerbox....

Nou praat ons my taal..... MC that sounds like a plan

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 25, 2011, 10:49:17 PM
Dry wors and biltong is compulsory as well... I'll bring some for padkos / brekkas
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Hooch on February 26, 2011, 01:45:40 AM
BigG, now that breakfast sounds like a plan.
Have something blue installed for you and the guru!
Take a guess what it might be? That will be at 05:00 in the morning.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on February 26, 2011, 09:16:41 AM
1) mussle cracker + coolerbox + braai + boerie + steak
2) Hooch
3) ET
4) BigG
5) Rory
6) Lichia Amia
7 ) Herman.
8.) icstuff
9) Zimbi
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 28, 2011, 08:10:12 AM
BigG, now that breakfast sounds like a plan.
Have something blue installed for you and the guru!
Take a guess what it might be? That will be at 05:00 in the morning.

mmmmm... sounds dangerous... i like it

Hier kom splinter nuwe moeilikheid    :hehe:

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 28, 2011, 08:56:10 AM
How to make your own wading stick: http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,4090.new.html#new (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,4090.new.html#new)

I have one extra grip for someone that needs it.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: zimbi on February 28, 2011, 10:41:59 AM
iv never done the fluff chucking thing so am realy keen
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 28, 2011, 11:19:48 AM
How to make your own wading stick: http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,4090.new.html#new (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,4090.new.html#new)

I have one extra grip for someone that needs it.

Nice stuff Icestuff- i dont mind taking extra grip ... one more thing- how long must broom stick be??
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 28, 2011, 11:23:44 AM
Nice stuff Icestuff- i dont mind taking extra grip ... one more thing- how long must broom stick be??

a comfortable height, if a broomstick is to short for you get one of those that a rake would use. But is comes down to personal taste.

Will bring it on Saturday!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on February 28, 2011, 02:42:10 PM
Hi Gents

Sorry, I haven't been following the tread. Work has been crazy. So what is the final plans?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on February 28, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
March 5, eastco 16km from parys on the R500
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: diamonddogs on February 28, 2011, 03:21:43 PM
OK boys and girls I fished the river on Saturday and Sunday and it was seriously HARD!

It was like fishing a 50m mudslide but maybe by the time you bunch get there it might have cleared up a bit. Visibility was probably around 5cm which made it even harder.
The river is currently full of debris, branches just under the surface and millions of kilometers of fishing line courtesy of our beloved papswaaiers.

Fished Saturday from 16:00 to 18:30 and only managed one muddy on a small black fb nymph.
Sunday was a bit better and I manged to land three yellows and a moerse catfish between 09:00 and 12:00.

There was very little life in the river in general. Turning over rocks and grabbing some pieces of driftwood as they floated past only revealed at most maybe one or two insects.

All the yellows were landed on black fb nymphs, size 16 with 2.5mm orange tungsten beads. The muddy I landed on a peacock caddis and the catfish also on the black fb nymph.

Due to the river being so dirty extra caution should be taken when wading as you cannot see the rock lying in wait to mate with your ankle. Take it easy!
Eastco is a relatively tough wade so make sure you have a wading stick.

I suggest that if the river is still dirty when you get there to maybe try flies a little bit bigger (Size 12 & 14), also use flies that will cast a better or more visible silhouette. By this I mean you can use any fly you want as long as it is black...

If all else fails ask Rory to point out the mullberry tree and try some half chicken's and woolly buggers directly underneath it - lots of catfish to be had under that tree.

Regarding the wading sticks a couple of tips.
Make sure your wading stick floats! You have no idea how many times you are going to donner over your wading stick if you cannot see it. A floating stick is also easier to grab when in need - you will have no idea if your wading stick is on your left, right, behind or in front of you if it does not float.

If you don't have a scale on the river it is quite easy to work out the weight of the fish later by using the length of the fish.  On your wading stick start at the bottom and mark your wading stick at 50cm, 55cm, 60cm, 65cm and 70cm by using insulation tape or a permanent marker.  It is easy once you have landed the fish to measure it on your wading stick.

Have fun the week-end and take it easy in the river.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on February 28, 2011, 03:28:22 PM
OK boys and girls I fished the river on Saturday and Sunday and it was seriously HARD!

It was like fishing a 50m mudslide but maybe by the time you bunch get there it might have cleared up a bit. Visibility was probably around 5cm which made it even harder.
The river is currently full of debris, branches just under the surface and millions of kilometers of fishing line courtesy of our beloved papswaaiers.

Fished Saturday from 16:00 to 18:30 and only managed one muddy on a small black fb nymph.
Sunday was a bit better and I manged to land three yellows and a moerse catfish between 09:00 and 12:00.

There was very little life in the river in general. Turning over rocks and grabbing some pieces of driftwood as they floated past only revealed at most maybe one or two insects.

All the yellows were landed on black fb nymphs, size 16 with 2.5mm orange tungsten beads. The muddy I landed on a peacock caddis and the catfish also on the black fb nymph.

Due to the river being so dirty extra caution should be taken when wading as you cannot see the rock lying in wait to mate with your ankle. Take it easy!
Eastco is a relatively tough wade so make sure you have a wading stick.

I suggest that if the river is still dirty when you get there to maybe try flies a little bit bigger (Size 12 & 14), also use flies that will cast a better or more visible silhouette. By this I mean you can use any fly you want as long as it is black...

If all else fails ask Rory to point out the mullberry tree and try some half chicken's and woolly buggers directly underneath it - lots of catfish to be had under that tree.

Regarding the wading sticks a couple of tips.
Make sure your wading stick floats! You have no idea how many times you are going to donner over your wading stick if you cannot see it. A floating stick is also easier to grab when in need - you will have no idea if your wading stick is on your left, right, behind or in front of you if it does not float.

If you don't have a scale on the river it is quite easy to work out the weight of the fish later by using the length of the fish.  On your wading stick start at the bottom and mark your wading stick at 50cm, 55cm, 60cm, 65cm and 70cm by using insulation tape or a permanent marker.  It is easy once you have landed the fish to measure it on your wading stick.

Have fun the week-end and take it easy in the river.


thanks for the heads-up and report - any pic's
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on February 28, 2011, 03:31:19 PM
Hi Diamonddogsm, thanks for the comprehensive insight on our fishing spot for the weekend

The guys told me that fishing conditions would be tough for the weekend, but i am as keen to get a fat barbel on the end of the line if all else fails.

I got some wooly buggers and some half chickens in red and black and yellow and black
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 01, 2011, 08:04:49 AM
Herman did you get hold of east co yet?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 01, 2011, 08:52:35 AM
I got some wooly buggers and some half chickens in red and black and yellow and black

Glad to see that the food for the day is sorted with Mussle Cracker making us Steak Rolls and Boeries for breakfast and you chicken flatties at lunch time.  :win:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 01, 2011, 08:56:34 AM
Glad to see that the food for the day is sorted with Mussle Cracker making us Steak Rolls and Boeries for breakfast and you chicken flatties at lunch time.  :win:

 :hehe:   :win:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 01, 2011, 08:57:47 AM


Am i the only one excited about this weekend or what ???
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 01, 2011, 09:02:36 AM

Am i the only one excited about this weekend or what ???

Sure hope not. Are you going blind by typing that Big? :lolo:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 01, 2011, 09:06:53 AM
Uncle G we are all excited!  :rck"
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 01, 2011, 09:07:41 AM
No ET, the bold font is a knee jerk reaction when you haven't fished for a while  :hehe:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 01, 2011, 09:09:32 AM
Great stuff
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: diamonddogs on March 01, 2011, 09:11:22 AM

thanks for the heads-up and report - any pic's

Only took a pic of the catfish - I dont take pics of yellows under 3kg's anymore :lolo:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5488343278_98b3bd758e_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 01, 2011, 09:15:49 AM
No ET, the bold font is a knee jerk reaction when you haven't fished for a while  :hehe:

Ahhh I get it, the longer you haven't fished the bigger the font?
Seems like you and I suffer the same fate?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 01, 2011, 09:17:03 AM
AAAAh I'm blinded!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 01, 2011, 09:17:59 AM
Only took a pic of the catfish - I dont take pics of yellows under 3kg's anymore :lolo:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5488343278_98b3bd758e_z.jpg)

That thing looks like an Orange River Cat. Normally they are that white on the Orange.
First Vaal Cat I have seen being that white. Nice catch though (clap)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 01, 2011, 09:18:40 AM
Only took a pic of the catfish - I dont take pics of yellows under 3kg's anymore :lolo:



That size barbel will do for me  :brbel:

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 01, 2011, 09:19:34 AM
 :lolo: ET
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 01, 2011, 09:43:12 AM
Only took a pic of the catfish - I dont take pics of yellows under 3kg's anymore :lolo:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5488343278_98b3bd758e_z.jpg)

Nice one Mario!!  (clap) Thanks for the report back on the conditions!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 01, 2011, 09:46:09 AM
Guys I need to know whos meeting me at the Engen 1 Stop on Saturday morning. I don't want to leave anybody behind. Also remember its the 1 Stop on the N1 to Bloem, we're not going on the Vereeniging road. Please list your names for me!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 01, 2011, 09:46:57 AM
The water looks like the Upper Vaal. Lekker Gingerbeer ek sę :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 01, 2011, 09:48:22 AM
Guys I need to know whos meeting me at the Engen 1 Stop on Saturday morning. I don't want to leave anybody behind. Also remember its the 1 Stop on the N1 to Bloem, we're not going on the Vereeniging road. Please list your names for me!

I am most likely going to convoy with you from your place :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 01, 2011, 09:52:23 AM
I am most likely going to convoy with you from your place :hnthnt:

I'm also still in with Rory, do we need a Gazebo or something for Saturday ?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 01, 2011, 09:53:45 AM
I'm also still in with Rory, do we need a Gazebo or something for Saturday ?

How long do you intend standing in one spot?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 01, 2011, 09:58:06 AM
I'm also still in with Rory, do we need a Gazebo or something for Saturday ?

There is plenty shade there, but you can pack one in just in case.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 01, 2011, 10:07:35 AM
How long do you intend standing in one spot?

Don't get me wrong, i want to be fishing as long as possible, but seeing as i don't know the spot, i would have thought we need a spot to sit and have some chow etc...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 01, 2011, 10:10:36 AM
Don't get me wrong, i want to be fishing as long as possible, but seeing as i don't know the spot, i would have thought we need a spot to sit and have some chow etc...

Bring die ding man!!! How else are you going to stay cool whilst tanning those flatties for lunch? :hyst:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: diamonddogs on March 01, 2011, 10:17:37 AM
No need for a Gazebo at Eastco
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2769/4472126291_91dd165525.jpg)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 01, 2011, 10:20:06 AM
Good stuff
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on March 01, 2011, 11:32:41 AM
I will meet you at the engen...is it the one on vereenigen highway...lol.. duh
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 01, 2011, 11:33:23 AM
Only took a pic of the catfish - I dont take pics of yellows under 3kg's anymore :lolo:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5488343278_98b3bd758e_z.jpg)

lol- so you saying i must carry a small net?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Christo on March 01, 2011, 12:01:04 PM
Guys I'll cook a pot of my homemade SPICY CHUNKY CHUTNEY SAUCE for those boerie rolls that MC is so kindly sponsoring.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 02, 2011, 10:08:17 AM
MAN am I glad Herman told me about this trip! .. As my proposed fishing partners chickened out one by one for our Saturday fishing trip, I thought I would end up alone on the Vaal on Saturday ... but NOT ANYMORE!  :tkx:
You guys can count me in!
I'll be driving from Centurion, so anybody else looking for a lift from Centurion or even Midrand area are more than welcome to hop in...
If not, I'll meet you all at the Engen garage at 6am ... or if I miss you guys there, I'll catch up with you at Eastco ...

P.S. This was the quickest time I've ever joined a forum! ... I was WONDERING where Herman, Rory and the rest of the gang is hanging out these days!  w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 02, 2011, 10:16:47 AM
Ha ha! Harold is in the house!! :welc: It'll be good to fish with you again man, you prepared to help out the new guys going with?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 02, 2011, 10:29:00 AM
Nog net drie slapies!
Cant wait any longer, going to book myself of sick tomorrow and go down to the river.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 02, 2011, 10:30:32 AM
P.S. This was the quickest time I've ever joined a forum! ... I was WONDERING where Herman, Rory and the rest of the gang is hanging out these days!  w;k


:welc:
See you Saturday
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 02, 2011, 10:39:07 AM
How many new guys are going to the Vaal on Saturday?
Are we going to split up in groups or what? You guys won't give me lip if I perhaps take a group and put them onto fish? Don't want to hear we were fishing the "SPAWN BEDS". (bat
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 02, 2011, 10:49:15 AM
How many new guys are going to the Vaal on Saturday?
Are we going to split up in groups or what? You guys won't give me lip if I perhaps take a group and put them onto fish? Don't want to hear we were fishing the "SPAWN BEDS". (bat

If so I want to be in your group fishing the "spawn beds" I wont tell anyone!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 02, 2011, 10:51:20 AM
If so I want to be in your group fishing the "spawn beds" I wont tell anyone!

There is a rumor doing the rounds that I fish spawn beds by standing in water waist deep water :dunno:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 02, 2011, 10:53:47 AM
Anyone that puts me on the fish... I'll put them on the beers
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 02, 2011, 11:11:42 AM
My advise will be to get ready before Rory does, see where he is going and snatch that spot from him. The man has a knack for catching the first fish of the day
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 02, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
Anyone that puts me on the fish... I'll put them on the beers

Think I might fish with you!!!! You got the chow, the beverages and the portable shade. What more can I ask for? :vio
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 02, 2011, 11:27:08 AM
Think I might fish with you!!!! You got the chow, the beverages and the portable shade. What more can I ask for? :vio
:hehe:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 02, 2011, 11:33:48 AM
Ha ha! Harold is in the house!! :welc: It'll be good to fish with you again man, you prepared to help out the new guys going with?

Seeing that this will only be my 5th trip, I'm still a newbie myself! I was more thinking of being IN one of the groups BEING led by one of you "harde baard manne"!  :resp:
Seeing that mustard caddis has always been my goto fly, it sounds like that tactic might not work this Saturday ... so I might just make my name @#$%#$% if I try and show someone "how to do it" ...  :cnfzd

That feeling you get in your stomach just before a nice loooong December holiday ....I'm almost getting that exact same feeling in my stomach for the weekend! .... this is going to be a loooooong Wednesday, Thursday & Friday!  :sadd
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 02, 2011, 11:38:06 AM
That feeling you get in your stomach just before a nice loooong December holiday ....I'm almost getting that exact same feeling in my stomach for the weekend! .... this is going to be a loooooong Wednesday, Thursday & Friday!  :sadd

I suggest you take some medicine before you go. I dont mind people crapping themselves, I just dont want to see or smell it! Take some toilet paper just in case. If need be you could hop onto one of the Islands for a veldtie. w;k

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 02, 2011, 11:45:21 AM
I suggest you take some medicine before you go. I dont mind people crapping themselves, I just dont want to see or smell it! Take some toilet paper just in case. If need be you could hop onto one of the Islands for a veldtie. w;k

Do you chaps think the porta loo on the Island at strydom's have made its way down river?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 02, 2011, 11:52:30 AM
I suggest you take some medicine before you go. I dont mind people crapping themselves, I just dont want to see or smell it! Take some toilet paper just in case. If need be you could hop onto one of the Islands for a veldtie. w;k

No that happens the night BEFORE the trip ...not DURING the trip .... maybe because of an overdose uhmmmm ..sleeping pills ...yes ...let's call it sleeping pills ... taken to calm me down ...  :hehe:

Woohooo flows down to about 31 cub ! ...at this rate, I can almost bring my 2 year old daughter along to do the Vaal shuffle with me!

By the way ...on a serious note ... My son is almost 7, and would REALLY REALLY like to introduce him to Vaal yellow Fly fishing ... now if he stands next to me, when the water level is about halfway between my knees and waist, it will bew about waist deep for him .... I guess at this point it would be impossible for him to wade the waters that we are going to wade? I know silwer strome is out of the question, cause there I OFTEN wade waist deep ...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 02, 2011, 12:18:22 PM

By the way ...on a serious note ... My son is almost 7, and would REALLY REALLY like to introduce him to Vaal yellow Fly fishing ... now if he stands next to me, when the water level is about halfway between my knees and waist, it will bew about waist deep for him .... I guess at this point it would be impossible for him to wade the waters that we are going to wade? I know silwer strome is out of the question, cause there I OFTEN wade waist deep ...

Never mind ....scrap that thought ... I was just thinking about the strength of the flow ... he will never be able to stay upright ... he can wait till he's the same length as me ... I'll rather have a son at home, not fishing with me, but alive, than one that has been swept away by the current ...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 02, 2011, 12:19:48 PM
Never mind ....scrap that thought ... I was just thinking about the strength of the flow ... he will never be able to stay upright ... he can wait till he's the same length as me ... I'll rather have a son at home, not fishing with me, but alive, than one that has been swept away by the current ...

Let him fish from the bank
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 02, 2011, 01:06:03 PM
Let him fish from the bank

Nooooo no no ...you don't understand .... the first sign that I'm catching more fish than him, while wading, he will NOT be happy with staying on the bank anymore ...   :hehe:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on March 02, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
Nooooo no no ...you don't understand .... the first sign that I'm catching more fish than him, while wading, he will NOT be happy with staying on the bank anymore ...   :hehe:

Harold  :welc:
Glad you took my advice. w;k
Eastco's first run would be perfect to introduce the youngster, as would Eendekuils first run.
History shows that Eendekuil's first run is the "perfect" nursery  for young anglers. Very easy wading as well as fish eager for the fly.

I'm also looking forward to Sat. Been tying flies, which is why I'm a bit late tonight, :sml:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 03, 2011, 08:40:51 AM
Guys I need to know whos meeting me at the Engen 1 Stop on Saturday morning. I don't want to leave anybody behind......

I will meet you at the engen...

Ok is that all?  :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on March 03, 2011, 08:46:34 AM
Okay so its 7:00 at the Engen Block house on the R59 ? NOT !!!

I'll be there - think Quick Bite and his side kick are catching a lift with me.

Bring it on !!!!!!

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 03, 2011, 08:49:01 AM
Ok is that all?  :dunno: :dunno:

Ag OK ek sal julle by Engen ontmoet ... maar moenie spesiniaal daar vir my wag nie .... ek kan nooit waarborg dat ek 5am gaan op wees nie, en kom in elk geval gewoonlik laaste by die venue aan ...  :crzy
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 03, 2011, 08:50:42 AM
Okay so its 7:00 at the Engen Block house on the R59 ? NOT !!!

I'll be there - think Quick Bite and his side kick are catching a lift with me.

Bring it on !!!!!!

 :grk:

 :win:  05h45!!

Harold if you know how to get to Eastco then we'll see you there - no problemo!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 03, 2011, 08:59:49 AM
Are you guys gonna eat breakfast at Engen, or at Eastco?
Think I will just have to fill up my stomach a bit before I enter the water, else the growling might chase away the fish!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 03, 2011, 09:04:10 AM
Are you guys gonna eat breakfast at Engen, or at Eastco?
Think I will just have to fill up my stomach a bit before I enter the water, else the growling might chase away the fish!

Just a hit and run at the 1 Stop, get the convoy together and head off.  :clwn
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 03, 2011, 09:04:44 AM
Rory do you want to catch a lift with me?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 03, 2011, 09:09:59 AM
Rory do you want to catch a lift with me?

I'm giving Gavin a lift, so if you don't mind the 2 of us then its cool. The less vehicles that go - the cheaper the entrance fee! :rck"
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 03, 2011, 09:12:02 AM
No worries! '

The "Monster Trokkie" has more than enough space. What time should I come pick you up?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 03, 2011, 09:14:53 AM
No worries! '

The "Monster Trokkie" has more than enough space. What time should I come pick you up?

About 04h45 should be good. If Louie is still coming along can he catch a ride with you as well?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 03, 2011, 09:20:14 AM
Any ideas what the entrance fee will be and whether Herman could organize discount or something?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 03, 2011, 09:21:50 AM
Jip, no worries. I'll see you then is there any chance I can still put my name on for one of those steak rolls?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 03, 2011, 09:28:21 AM
Any ideas what the entrance fee will be and whether Herman could organize discount or something?

If my brittle memory serves me correctly its about 50 bucks per person and then the same per vehicle, something like that!

Jip, no worries. I'll see you then is there any chance I can still put my name on for one of those steak rolls?

Cool bananas I'll get hold of him now. I'm sure Darren can organise something for you?

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 03, 2011, 09:34:44 AM
I'll make a few extra boeri rolls as well to bring with
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 03, 2011, 10:35:27 AM
Okay so its 7:00 at the Engen Block house on the R59 ? NOT !!!

I'll be there - think Quick Bite and his side kick are catching a lift with me.

Bring it on !!!!!!

 :grk:

Hi Lichia - yes me and Christo will be riding with you.
Will call you later to get the details etc .... leka boet
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on March 03, 2011, 10:42:20 AM
Hi Lichia - yes me and Christo will be riding with you.
Will call you later to get the details etc .... leka boet

 :win:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Homie on March 03, 2011, 10:49:20 AM
Homies gonna make it. We will pack out  Amstel bottles from his front door to the car, which he is sure to follow and then Homie-nap him.

 :grk:


LOL, Only saw this now.


Sorry guys, getting people over from Natal this weekend so Im out. Always knew it was a long shot  :cnfzd
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on March 03, 2011, 10:50:55 AM

LOL, Only saw this now.


Sorry guys, getting people over from Natal this weekend so Im out. Always knew it was a long shot  :cnfzd

I see a STRAFDOP coming your way !!!!!! (bat
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Homie on March 03, 2011, 11:34:37 AM
I see a STRAFDOP coming your way !!!!!! (bat


 :happ: :happ: :happ:
YES PLEASE ! LOL !
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 03, 2011, 11:47:05 AM
I see a STRAFDOP coming your way !!!!!! (bat

Stafdop = withholding beer from homie.
 
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on March 03, 2011, 09:09:36 PM
Finally finished tying my "control" flies. ( I lost all of em last weekend :sadd ).

I will contact Eastco tomorrow to try and negotiate a discount. If I come right it will be arranged that when you arrive, just tell the lady that you are part of the ULTIMATE trip. :sml:

If I can't wangle it, she will look at you blankly, ( same as always  :shk ) and charge the normal rates.

But hey, who cares ?????????

WE ARE GOING FISHING. WHOOOOOOHHHOOOOO  fshg fshg
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on March 04, 2011, 08:01:45 AM
 :happ: :happ: :happ: :happ: :happ: :happ: :happ: :happ:

Less than 24 hours to go !!!!!!!! :rck" :rck" :rck"

All of you not going - Sorry for you  :cry: :cry: :cry:

 :grk:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 04, 2011, 08:02:50 AM
Iets going to be awesme almost whishing today over!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 04, 2011, 08:08:46 AM
MAN this ig going to be a loooooong looooong day .... :sadd
I wanna go fishing!!!!!!!!!  fshg :happ:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Gerhard on March 04, 2011, 08:19:34 AM
Enjoy guys.

I will be moving warehouses while you are having fun tomorrow.  :cnfzd

Hope to read a good trip report early next week. 

 :appr:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 04, 2011, 08:23:05 AM
I dont think i will sleep tonight ....

hope yellows r hungry tomerow??

gents- anyone check wheather forecast- should i carry a raincoat?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 04, 2011, 08:28:39 AM
http://www.weathersa.co.za/web/Home.asp?ib=1&f=68361&z=Ctry&v=7&g=MeteoT&m=Strm&anim=aStr&av=AvWarn&fav=v0&dam=&graph=temp&uid=&p=&dbug=&h=0&mw=w&ib=1&f=68353 (http://www.weathersa.co.za/web/Home.asp?ib=1&f=68361&z=Ctry&v=7&g=MeteoT&m=Strm&anim=aStr&av=AvWarn&fav=v0&dam=&graph=temp&uid=&p=&dbug=&h=0&mw=w&ib=1&f=68353)

No rain!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 04, 2011, 08:30:59 AM
Steak rolls, boeri rolls, beers, Ultimate crowd, and doing what we love most

Weather is looking great for tomorrow as well

COME ON SATURDAY !!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 04, 2011, 08:37:34 AM
http://www.weathersa.co.za/web/Home.asp?ib=1&f=68361&z=Ctry&v=7&g=MeteoT&m=Strm&anim=aStr&av=AvWarn&fav=v0&dam=&graph=temp&uid=&p=&dbug=&h=0&mw=w&ib=1&f=68353 (http://www.weathersa.co.za/web/Home.asp?ib=1&f=68361&z=Ctry&v=7&g=MeteoT&m=Strm&anim=aStr&av=AvWarn&fav=v0&dam=&graph=temp&uid=&p=&dbug=&h=0&mw=w&ib=1&f=68353)

No rain!


Perfect- what more can we ask for??
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 08:38:37 AM

Perfect- what more can we ask for??

Hungry fish!!! :hehe:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 08:47:03 AM
Good news chasps!!

Herman just phoned and asked me to tell everyone he's organised a discount from the lady who owns Eastco. She says she won't charge us per vehicle, only per person. (R50) (hap (hap Just tell her you from Ultimate.

Thanks For that Herman! Double cred for you sir!!! :resp:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 04, 2011, 08:50:12 AM
Great stuff Herman !!

Some more Cred   :win:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 04, 2011, 08:54:16 AM
Herman our Hero!!!
 :win: :tkx:

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 04, 2011, 08:58:49 AM
Flow rates for past week
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 04, 2011, 09:11:04 AM
Oh @#@#$@# ...I SWEAR this time yesterday, it was already 1pm !  :sadd
The day is craaaaaawling by ... 
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Christo on March 04, 2011, 10:12:10 AM
Hi guys, if the yellows are slow tomorrow can I try targetting the cats with the same 6/7 weight rod or do I need a heavier rated rod?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 10:19:25 AM
Hi guys, if the yellows are slow tomorrow can I try targetting the cats with the same 6/7 weight rod or do I need a heavier rated rod?

How much backing is on your reel?  :lolo: If the yellows are slow, I'll show you the Mudfish spot!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 04, 2011, 10:20:53 AM
That is my plan of action,  i spoke with Rory, if i don't come right with the yellows, i will try for the catfish on fly as well, failing that i am taking my bass rod with
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 04, 2011, 10:22:13 AM
How much backing is on your reel?  :lolo: If the yellows are slow, I'll show you the Mudfish spot!

Rory ...I'll take you up on that offer ...  (clap) ...and the baber spot as well thankyou ...   (clap)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 10:25:30 AM
Nothing wrong with the Muddies. Those fish fight like bulldogs, very tough and highly underrated! :resp:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 04, 2011, 10:29:46 AM
I'm greedy, Ultimately i want one of each on Saturday
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 10:33:03 AM
Now you talking!!! :rck"
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 04, 2011, 10:34:19 AM
I'm greedy, Ultimately i want one of each on Saturday
So I'm not thew only one with that plan ...  w;k  :brbel:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 04, 2011, 10:36:19 AM
Quick question ...
From the north on the N1 ... which is the best route ... past silwerstrome, then past Eendekuil and then onto the R500? ...
Or keep on straight with the N1, to the Parys turnoff, then at Parys take the R500??
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 04, 2011, 10:43:14 AM
What will be sweet is an East co Grand Slam Yellow, Muddie and barbel all on Fly!!!. But just for incase I'll take a good casting stick too.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
Quick question ...
From the north on the N1 ... which is the best route ... past silwerstrome, then past Eendekuil and then onto the R500? ...
Or keep on straight with the N1, to the Parys turnoff, then at Parys take the R500??

From the north on the N1 - past silwerstrome, then past Eendekuil and then onto the R500? ...  :win:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 04, 2011, 10:46:46 AM
What will be sweet is an East co Grand Slam Yellow, Muddie and barbel all on Fly!!!. But just for incase I'll take a good casting stick too.

You said it, not to detract from the days fly fishing adventure,  i know there are some big barbel in there at the moment, the 7ft flick stick is a must, but i am thinking if there is a real big one, perhaps the berkley air 9ft XH  :dunno:

Taking some chicken livers with just in case
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 04, 2011, 10:47:25 AM
Is it just me or is today taking forever, At what felt like this time yesterday I was home already!!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 10:50:13 AM
Awesome Fly Rory!!!

What, where?????
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 04, 2011, 10:51:58 AM
Rory will 50m Backing be ok for barbel?
What flies/size do you need?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 04, 2011, 10:52:38 AM
How much backing is on your reel?  :lolo: If the yellows are slow, I'll show you the Mudfish spot!

thats why i went for the large arbor, I managed 150m of backing.....bring it
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 04, 2011, 10:53:10 AM
You said it, not to detract from the days fly fishing adventure,  i know there are some big barbel in there at the moment, the 7ft flick stick is a must, but i am thinking if there is a real big one, perhaps the berkley air 9ft XH  :dunno:

I'm Taking a couple of plouncers and some artificials with a MH 7'2" stick and a Revo with braid. But first I want to try and Fly rod.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 04, 2011, 10:54:29 AM
What, where?????

I ended up on your Candy fly for some reason! I msut be losing my marbles though I posted that there?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 04, 2011, 10:54:53 AM
You said it, not to detract from the days fly fishing adventure,  i know there are some big barbel in there at the moment, the 7ft flick stick is a must, but i am thinking if there is a real big one, perhaps the berkley air 9ft XH  :dunno:

I'm Taking a couple of plouncers and some artificials with a MH 7'2" stick and a Revo with braid. But first I want to try and Fly rod.

What artificials you taking?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 10:57:19 AM
Rory will 50m Backing be ok for barbel?
What flies/size do you need?

I suppose it depends on the size of the barbel?? Barbel will take most flies but if you want to actively target them you'll need bigger flies that push lots of water. Woolly Buggers, Half chickens etc.

I ended up on your Candy fly for some reason! I msut be losing my marbles though I posted that there?

Hee hee, good ninja edit there!!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on March 04, 2011, 11:29:33 AM
Am i rite in saying there is only 9 people going cause i am going to the butcher just now ...i will cater for 12 people just in case ..do you think that will be ok..??
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 11:47:07 AM
Eish I think its a lot more.

Lets see:

Musselcracker
Zimbi
Herman Jooste
Jan Jooste
Harold
Icstuff
Lichia
Quick
Christo
Monster
Rory
Bigg
ET

Have I left anyone out????
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 04, 2011, 11:52:41 AM
Eish I think its a lot more.

Lets see:

Musselcracker
Zimbi
Herman Jooste
Jan Jooste
Harold
Icstuff
Lichia
Quick
Christo
Monster
Rory
Bigg
ET

Have I left anyone out????



Gents i just need to borrow some rolls, the braai and the chutney- i will bring some lamb sauages
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 04, 2011, 11:54:09 AM
a comfortable height, if a broomstick is to short for you get one of those that a rake would use. But is comes down to personal taste.

Will bring it on Saturday!

@ Icestuff- i got stick sorted out- please dont forget to bring the grip for me. thanks a mill
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 04, 2011, 11:56:37 AM
Already in the car, because if I did not do it I would have forgotten  :clwn
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on March 04, 2011, 12:09:33 PM
OK So i will cater for 16 just in case...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 04, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
What artificials you taking?

Sorry for the late reply, I'm taking some lead heads and silcone plonsers
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 04, 2011, 12:16:10 PM
Already in the car, because if I did not do it I would have forgotten  :clwn

hmmmm ... If I didn't have to work today, and if my wife wouldn't look strangely at me, then I MYSELF would be in the car already....no wait ....then I would've been at Eastco already!   :happ:
As a matter of fact ...if I knew about this sooner, I might have gone there today already with my caravan! ...oh well ...maybe in April ...  w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Christo on March 04, 2011, 12:24:30 PM
Hi Rory, I think I've got 100m backing, is that gonna fine or am I gonna be outgunned and just stick to the yellows????

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Christo on March 04, 2011, 12:29:30 PM
HOW HOT :hnthnt: a chutney can you boys handle, 18 green chillies - 1 for each oke, :lolo:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 04, 2011, 12:31:11 PM
Hi Rory, I think I've got 100m backing, is that gonna fine or am I gonna be outgunned and just stick to the yellows????

I think you should be fine, just don't cast at 15kg fish!!!  w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 04, 2011, 12:31:22 PM
HOW HOT :hnthnt: a chutney can you boys handle, 18 green chillies - 1 for each oke, :lolo:

How many can a wader handle..lol
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 04, 2011, 01:19:35 PM
How many can a wader handle..lol

 :hyst: :hyst:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 04, 2011, 02:01:48 PM
HOW HOT :hnthnt: a chutney can you boys handle, 18 green chillies - 1 for each oke, :lolo:

12 / 10 should be mild enough for me, it can never be too hot
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on March 04, 2011, 02:21:42 PM
OK, so Jan is sorting his wurms, I believe his secret pap is kooked. My gear is all raedy, just to pack the van later, then tomorrow it's the dop and breakfast ( err, more dop  w;k ) and off we go.
I told Susan that I'll be there around 06:00, even though she only normally opens at 07:00. :crzy :crzy

See you all there. fshg fshg fshg
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on March 04, 2011, 02:28:08 PM
Goosebay presentley at 30 tons. Water temp between 21 and 23. No rain forcast for tomorrow. New Moon tonight.  :happ: :happ: :happ:

The only thing missing at the moment is US fishing. :hehe: :hehe:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 04, 2011, 02:37:20 PM
Herman See you 6:00 then! And the rest of you chaps when you get there!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 04, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
Yup Yup!! see you all there tomorrow morning!  :happ:
I don't think I'll see you at the Engen ....I'll catch up with you guys at Eastco!
 :happ: :happ:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 04, 2011, 03:18:41 PM
I'm also on my way home, going to pack an prep

See you guys in the AM

Strafdoppe for latecomers.....Rory, Monster and I will be fashionably late...  :hehe:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on March 06, 2011, 07:27:01 AM
lekker trip boys....thanks for a good day out...we have to do and fly fishing social again... :appr:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: HaroldF on March 06, 2011, 01:13:13 PM
Yep! ...thanx for a great day! ... wish I had some of those boeries and steak rolls for leftovers ...would've gone down NICELY this morning again!  :hnthnt:
I was not sure why everyone left at lunctime though ....I thought we're gonna do an afternoon session as well??
ANYWAY ...I stayed on till around 4:15pm, and got my first baber on fly as well (although it was the smallest baber I've ever seen)
So for the day, I caught at least 3 species .... muddy, yellow and baber ...
I've only got a photo of the yellow and baber, but Monster can at least testify for my muddy ...  w;k
I see the yellow at Eastco is also injured ... when you enlarge the photo, you can see the damage to it's back dorsal fin .. it even left some blood on my arm.. it might have been from the floods, but I though fish heels MUCH quicker than that???? ...strange ...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Herman Jooste on March 06, 2011, 05:29:57 PM
Thanks to everyone who made the trip. After having organised quite a few trips for Flytalk, all I can say is  :uarocks  :uarocks.
Everyone pitched, and although the fishing was not easy, I believe at least 80% of those there at least hooked a fish. :happ:
Thanks to everyone for a great day.  (clap) (clap)

We should do it again. w;k w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 06, 2011, 07:38:43 PM
WHEN'S THE NEXT ONE BOYS ???

Fantastic outing  :win:

Herman, Rory, so keen to share knowledge with us beginners, the guys had alot of patience with us
Nico, your monster trokkie lives upto it's name, thanks again for taking us
Darren you're a legend bud, that chow really hit the spot

To all the other lads that were there, spending the day fishing with you guys is the reason I enjoy fishing so much

We definately need to make more of these day trips, what a JOL !
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 06, 2011, 07:41:22 PM
Yep! ...thanx for a great day! ... wish I had some of those boeries and steak rolls for leftovers ...would've gone down NICELY this morning again!  :hnthnt:
I was not sure why everyone left at lunctime though ....I thought we're gonna do an afternoon session as well??
ANYWAY ...I stayed on till around 4:15pm, and got my first baber on fly as well (although it was the smallest baber I've ever seen)
So for the day, I caught at least 3 species .... muddy, yellow and baber ...
I've only got a photo of the yellow and baber, but Monster can at least testify for my muddy ...  w;k
I see the yellow at Eastco is also injured ... when you enlarge the photo, you can see the damage to it's back dorsal fin .. it even left some blood on my arm.. it might have been from the floods, but I though fish heels MUCH quicker than that???? ...strange ...

Congrats on the 3 species, awesome catches  (clap)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 06, 2011, 07:43:45 PM
@ Craig, your yellow might have gotten away, but i watched you fight it, that chuffed look on your face said it all
The next one won't get away that easily   
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 07, 2011, 07:34:01 AM
Thanks to each and everyone that made it out to Eastco on Saturday. Was fun putting names to faces. Darren thanks for those Boeries and Steak Rolls. I was so stuffed that I didn't even want something to eat Saturday night.

My mate Daryl asked me if you guys were a group of friends or something? I replied that we are all from a forum. He could not believe his ears. He was pleasantly surprised. So a big hands up to you all!!! w;k :resp:   
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Monster on March 07, 2011, 07:45:18 AM
Good Morning Gents

Thank you for great company, lekker boerries and steak rolls and a coup[le of good fish! Herold congrats with your Easco tripple!!! And gents he cought one hell f a muddy!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 07, 2011, 08:01:23 AM
What a day, those of you that had other "more important" things to do, you missed out big time!
MC thank you for the lunch, you are a champ!
And Rory thank you for the calls we could make on that blackberry of yours!
 :win:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 07, 2011, 08:16:46 AM
Sad i missed out on this one okes hope you guys had a jol!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Christo on March 07, 2011, 08:21:32 AM
Good Morning Chaps,

Rory, Koos, Daryl, Herman, Darren, THANK YOU for the input and the willingness to teach the newbies and share the little things that will help with the big catches.

Guys I learnt a ton on saturday and now i feel a little more equipped and confident the next time I'm on the river, you guys made it look easy and kept it simple without confusing us new okes.

Was great meeting you guys and forming new fishing friendships, now that we started lets endeavour to keep the ULTIMATE FRESHWATER SOCIALS coming.

Well done to all you manage to get some fish in hard conditions, esp Craig, from what i saw on saturday I think you've done this before, LOL, WEL DONE MATE.

Darren those boeries and steaks are a sin brother but I forgive you, they were the best, THANKS GUYS -  :appr:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 07, 2011, 08:24:23 AM
Thanks for an awesome day guys, big ups to all the guys that pitched. The fishing was really really tough so hats off to all the guys that managed to catch some fish. Harold, you the man!!! The vis in the water was about 5 -10cm and I reckon the fish are still shell shocked after the floods! A big thank you to the more experienced guys who were prepared to spend some time with the newbies, showing them the ropes - much appreciated.  :resp:

I'll post some pics tonight. Unfortunately I didn't get any pics of the "Vaal Shuffles" Thanks Darren the braaimaster, and Gavin for the "Breakfast".

 :uarocks :uarocks :uarocks

So when we going again????
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 07, 2011, 08:27:29 AM
19 or 20 march?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 07, 2011, 08:36:57 AM
Thats the weekend of the Top Gear festival

How about 1st Weekend in April ?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 07, 2011, 08:47:15 AM
In all honesty from what I have seen on Saturday, I think the Vaal will only fish really well after winter. The reason for that is that there are no Caddis Pupa around. All the drift wood that passed me or even when snagging and pulling the flies out, I would only see Mayflies. There where Adult Caddis around, but its still early days. I reckon most of the insect life got washed down stream as well as the fish. There were a couple of fish around, but not like it should have been. As the insect life pics up, so will the fishing. The visibility was not that great, but we have caught fish in these sort of conditions.

Visibility should also be super by September/October. This winter might also produce some good catches on the dry. As for now, I wouldn't bother going out to the Vaal soon.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on March 07, 2011, 09:03:07 AM
Thanks Chaps for an absolute cracker of a day! My first fly fishing experience will go down as one of those very special moments in life. I got revved properly by a Yellow that unfortunately fell off but every body fishing the lower Barrage area heard me scream, goose bump stuff. Did manage to catch my first Vaal fish on fly with my last cast of the day after taking the Mother of all tumbles over a submerged rock.

Mussel Cracker you’re a legend, the chow went down lekker. To the rest of the guys that made it just showed me again the calibre of Ultimate Angler members you would not find a nicer bunch of Blokes.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Lichia amia on March 07, 2011, 09:05:43 AM
Some more pics
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 07, 2011, 09:14:49 AM
Graig I still laugh when I think about you and that yellow!  (clap)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: BigG on March 07, 2011, 09:16:38 AM
Well done Craigy, looks like we should have stuck around a bit longer, persistance pays off

 (clap)
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 07, 2011, 09:49:23 AM
Gents- thanks what an awesome morning ...

i think i had one bite...lol

@Craig - thanks for transport ... and MC (will show you how cook a curry :))- thanks for braai ....also Christ Spicy chunkny chutney was wicked...

Icstuff- thanks for grip- that stick saved me few good times .... did u mange to go Silverstrome on Sunday??

E.T- & Darryl - thanks for taking time to show us rope- i lernt alot and the next time - i will be geared up ...  Rock on :geet
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 07, 2011, 09:52:17 AM
No I did not, was going then I saw the cricket on tv, and changed my mind.
Later on I thought that I should not have watched the cricket
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: REEFMAN on March 07, 2011, 10:16:53 AM
Lovely stuff guys! Sounds like you guys had a rave of note!
Cred to all who attended....

Can someone post a list af those who pitched and those who went out of their way to help....?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: zimbi on March 07, 2011, 10:45:34 AM
i would go again for sure it was a blast

my legs were nice and stiff the next day from crawling over all thoes rocks
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: REEFMAN on March 07, 2011, 10:48:22 AM
I'm surprised that Rory and Louis actually made this one... their middle fingers must have been quite stiff from all the overuse in pics posted on BBM on Friday night! Some classic pics!  :hyst:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 07, 2011, 10:51:20 AM
Musselcracker - Provided a Humongous lunch!
Zimbi
Herman Jooste - Plenty of Advice
Jan Jooste - Caught the most fish
Harold
Icstuff
Lichia
Quick
Christo - A good tasting sauce for the boerries
Monster
Rory - Advice and shared his blackberry
Bigg
ET

Please add names as I cant remember all of the names and all who helped modify as needed please
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Poenskop on March 07, 2011, 12:15:24 PM
I'm surprised that Rory and Louis actually made this one... their middle fingers must have been quite stiff from all the overuse in pics posted on BBM on Friday night! Some classic pics!  :hyst:

I had to babysit my boy on Saturday so could not make it. It had really nothing to do with stiff middle fingers or headaches. True
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 07, 2011, 12:27:08 PM
ET - Koos Eckard

Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Christo on March 07, 2011, 12:37:33 PM
Musselcracker - Provided a Humongous lunch!
Zimbi
Herman Jooste - Plenty of Advice
Jan Jooste - Caught the most fish
Harold
Icstuff
Lichia
Quick
Christo - A good tasting sauce for the boerries
Monster
Rory - Advice and shared his blackberry
Big G
ET (Koos) - Guided Quick B / Lichia & Christo on the river with traces and flies.
Darryl    (don't know if he's own the forum)

Please add names as I cant remember all of the names and all who helped modify as needed please
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Kumz on March 07, 2011, 12:43:21 PM
 (clap) Awesome stuff guys ... :uarocks

I am sure we can do another one soon ... w;k

Craig  (clap) on your catches ....


Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Kumz on March 07, 2011, 12:44:45 PM
Gents- thanks what an awesome morning ...

i think i had one bite...lol

@Craig - thanks for transport ... and MC (will show you how cook a curry :))- thanks for braai ....also Christ Spicy chunkny chutney was wicked...


Quick ... next potjie is on you ..cos i cooked on Sat nite for u ....  w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 07, 2011, 01:08:22 PM
Christo

Daryl is not on the forum yet, but after Saturday I don't think its going to be that long before he joins. He was really impressed by all of you and he was dumbstruck when he found out that all of you are from Ultimate. Cred to all of you :resp:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 07, 2011, 01:11:56 PM

E.T- & Darryl - thanks for taking time to show us rope- i lernt alot and the next time - i will be geared up ...  Rock on :geet

Suveer, I see you work at FNB. Is it at that huge building like the Starship Enterprise on 14th Avenue?
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 07, 2011, 02:10:30 PM
Suveer, I see you work at FNB. Is it at that huge building like the Starship Enterprise on 14th Avenue?

Nah- ET- i work in town ....  the older ship ..lol

short -alot for the flies .... owe u some cred for that...
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 07, 2011, 02:21:38 PM
Nah- ET- i work in town ....  the older ship ..lol

short -alot for the flies .... owe u some cred for that...

Shot. When I plan on heading out to the upper Vaal maybe, I will inform you beforehand.
Perhaps our strike rate would be better. I just want the water visibility to clear up a bit and then I will hit the Vaal again.

Best Regards

Koos
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Quickbite on March 07, 2011, 02:44:51 PM
 Thanks Koos- please let me know .... i am always very keen....
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 07, 2011, 02:59:03 PM
Thanks Koos- please let me know .... i am always very keen....

Will do :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: schloshd1 on March 07, 2011, 04:37:43 PM
It looks like you guys had a great time despite the poor viz and slow fishing, well done (clap). I hope to be able to make the next one but I agree with Koos about the river not fishing as well as what it usually does until viz improves and the insect life returns to normal.
I am however looking forward to spending winter chasing largies and SM on dry.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 07, 2011, 05:14:01 PM
Some more pics:
1. The guys kitting up.
2. Icstuff wading.
3. BigG fishing a run.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 07, 2011, 05:16:00 PM
More pics:
1. Herman - Fish on!!.
2. Christo fishing a nice run.
3. The boys on the river.
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Rory on March 07, 2011, 05:16:58 PM
Look at that pic of Christo, you can clearly see how dirty the river still is!
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Kumz on March 07, 2011, 05:17:48 PM
So Whens the next Trip ???

Pls start a new thread ..... w;k
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: E.T. on March 07, 2011, 05:24:18 PM
Look at that pic of Christo, you can clearly see how dirty the river still is!

Yip, its bad!!! :nuts:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: Mussel Cracker on March 08, 2011, 10:12:20 AM
@ Quickbite and christo..i am going to hold to you that curry making session...and Christo the spicy sause for the boeries ..awesome stuff... :win:
Title: Re: Ultimate Vaal Trip 1.
Post by: icstuff on March 08, 2011, 10:36:14 AM
We still need the recipe for that one!
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