Author Topic: New Board - the Grinder Revolution! (Read 105871 times)

REEFMAN · « **on:** September 23, 2011, 10:41:38 AM »

With the way R/S medium to heavy tackle is moving, we decided that this 'new' facet of angling needs a section on it's own...

For all your ideas and threads related to using Fixed spool reels (Grinders) with heavy braid... this is the section to got to. Enjoy!

http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/board,92.0.html

Homie · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2011, 10:42:47 AM »

!!!

deezynking · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2011, 11:08:49 AM »

bigfish · « **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2011, 08:27:35 PM »

hi guys,

A start up kit 1st. Yes every angler wants the best reel & rod in the market. And some of us are prepared to spend huge amounts of money. Ive chkd anglers jump into some thing spending loads of money, but only to find out that all the effort was not really worth it, cause it's not their style.

So, what to do. In my experience work with what u already have. I have a grinder & a rod that's been collecting dust. All that was needed was the braid. I 1stly worked with that & upon my satisfaction, then only did I upgrade. If I disliked the grinder style, I would have lost nothing.

The braid that Im currently using is 48lb Gator, reasonable cost & product. Will be going to the Jigman once I have all the nittigritti sorted.

hope this helps.
bigfish

krissi · « **Reply #4 on:** September 24, 2011, 07:34:55 AM »

I agree bigfish - I want to make sure that I am totally comfortable with the grinder before I commit to spending money - my first obstacle is my huge mental block against grinders. I have a opus 3000 that I am going to play with in the surf before I even think about visiting Margate. Those guys sucker me everytime a coconut!

Half-Pint · « **Reply #5 on:** September 24, 2011, 07:45:04 AM »

I agree and disagree. I agree that going out and spending money wildly and then not using the tackle is a waste. Having said that the new ultegras and the ned grinder blanks are very different to anything we have used before. In order to gain the full benefits you need to do it properly

Angler 1 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 24, 2011, 10:36:51 AM »

ive only had small grinders, so i got one that will work when i got to moz and i used it for surf casting and it works !!! i may loose a little distance cause the spool is not a big pit but i have enough bulk to push it long lol and still enjoy thebenefits of a super smooth drag and back bone , hence i am staying with my sarogossa 18000F i just a super duper rod by gremlins that is designed for coffe grinder t flex/6 - i swopped my TN 50 of 3 years for a new sarogossa so i just paid for braid and the rod , my total bill R2500 not too shabby !

Angler 1 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 24, 2011, 02:06:02 PM »

I wish we had more variety when it comes to the reels , right now its just the Ultegra !

Half-Pint · « **Reply #8 on:** September 24, 2011, 03:17:39 PM »

Daiwa will catch up ....eventually!

mukiwa · « **Reply #9 on:** September 24, 2011, 06:07:19 PM »

whats wrong with the Daiwa saltiga surf???these reels are also big pit reels,have excellent drags,awesome cranking power.i am thinking of investing in the 4500 and the 6000.

Half-Pint · « **Reply #10 on:** September 24, 2011, 06:26:43 PM »

The Daiwas have an issue with the retainer plate. Under pressure it bends and at R1200 to fix it is not an easy fix. Also bear in mind the Ultegra is R2000 the Saltiga is nearly R6k

bigfish · « **Reply #11 on:** September 24, 2011, 06:44:15 PM »

Well coming to liking of reels, evry1 has a personal choice. To me, my current reel that I'm using is the Mitchell Avocsat 8000, having liked it over the Altegra cause of it strength. The spool on the Avocast is ventulated, allowing your spooled braid if wet to also dry from inside out. And, the gears are much more sturdy than that of the Ultegra. The disadvantage of the reel(Avocast) is the line capacity, the Ultegra 1400 managers abt 600-650m, the Avocast only settles for arnd 400m of 50lb braid.

My starter pack was a Daiwa BG60 & a Loomis standard with 3 tips. So my only upgrade was the Avocast, & the only reason that most will upgrade to the new grinders are mainly because of the long-range casting spools. If only the BG60 had the long range casting spool I would have not need the upgrade. All I did to the rod was change the eyes to suit the grinder. & as for the bionic finger, I purchased it & simply cabletied it to to the rod to were it suited me.

any takers.....
bigfish

Nemesis. · « **Reply #12 on:** September 24, 2011, 08:57:17 PM »

Daiwa has already come to the game with the new Daiwa Windcast Z5500, and boy is she a beauty!!Might be getting one this week, depending on my budget!Can't wait!!

I am a Shimano fan, but i just got to try this reel

Angler 1 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 25, 2011, 06:56:03 AM »

i stand corrected but this rel has been out for a while now , and its under 2k , im not sure what ill get but the ultegra has been proven , so maybe after someone has put this through its paces ill have a look at it , i was intrigued by the avocast aswell but never saw o ne in cape town stores yet

Angler 1 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 25, 2011, 07:32:28 AM »

is this not a carp reel ?

Half-Pint · « **Reply #15 on:** September 25, 2011, 07:45:29 AM »

Don check out the Ultegra reviews from overseas. This is exactly what they use the Ultegra for! Massive overkill IMO

mukiwa · « **Reply #16 on:** September 25, 2011, 09:12:50 AM »

it is a carp reel,or in fancy terms a big pit real which was designed primarily for specimen carp angling and long distance casting,somehow it found its way into the rock&surf fishermans tackleboxes,my concern however as 1/2 pint mentioned yesterday that there top end reels the saltiga surf have retainer plate issues,surely this problem will also be found in their cheeper models,someone who tested the saltiga surf extensively is dean pretorius ex esa and now rsd,i would like to hear his opinion on the matter,the more info we can get the better choice we will be able to make

Nemesis. · « **Reply #17 on:** September 25, 2011, 09:14:10 AM »

Jep most of the Robson Greens lol use these reels for carp......i'll do a review of the reel after i hook a few fish with it

Angler 1 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 25, 2011, 12:30:57 PM »

OK GUYS IVE GOT IT!!!! SHIMANO BULLS EYEXT ITS A BEAUT AND EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED, HOWEVER ITS NOT HERE YET AND DONT KNOW IF THEY GONA BRING IT HERE , WITH THE HUGE DEMAND DONT ANY OF YOU HAVE CONTACTS WITH SHIMANO TO GET THEM HERE , THEY NOT CHEAP BUT WILL BE THE EQUIVELANT IN PRICE TO THE SALTIGA SURF , ILL TAKE ONE FOR SURE ! CAN WE NOT GET SOME INFO ON LOCAL GUYS THTA CAN BRING THIS BABY TO US ?
http://www.tackletester.com/2010/01/shimano-bulls-eye-a-new-surf-weapon-emerges/

mukiwa · « **Reply #19 on:** September 25, 2011, 01:13:48 PM »

angler 1 :shre: i for one would definately be interested,if they dont have internal issues like the saltiga surf then this would be the go to reel.imo price versus qaulity is a no brainer,over many years i've found that one thing is paramount when it comes to buying fishing tackle is that goed koop is duur koop,yes some cheaper tackle oftened out performs and outlasts top end tackle but this is not the norm.i sometimes feel that south africa is realy far behind when it comes to availability and variety.for eg golf clubs-when one of the top brands launch a new driver or set of irons within 3 months they are normaly available in south africa sometimes sooner,so why should fishing tackle be any different and considering that angling is the largest sport in south africa.i hope the likes of basil maning or rapala vmc will come to the party soooon.