LINE TWIST - Taking control of line twist and Wind knots.

[REEFMAN]

OK, so after I got my new Sustain I found out that I made a rookie mistake. If you spin with braid and use a leader, don't make your leader long enough for the knots to pass through your rod's eyes. When you cast the knots will slow down your mono slightly which causes a loop or over-wind in your braid which can then easily wrap around your rod eyes.    I did not know this. 
Yes Homie, straf dop time! 

Hi SAfish, I note you mention the length of your leader when spinning with braid.  I'm in two minds here.  1) I agree with your explanation and in this case it makes sense that your leader knot should be in front of your rod tip when ready to cast, as it protects the knot from catching onto the eyes.  2) I have found that if my leader is this short though, I get a lot of "cast offs", especially with heavier lures as all the shock goes into the knot/braid. When I however use a longer leader with about two/three winds around the spool when ready to cast, it prevents cast offs and I don't seem to get over-winds either. I'm using both Sustain and Stradic 4000 and 5000 reels on 8ft and 11ft Assassin Amia rods. Thoughts?

You should be using a Braid leader... http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=15598.0



A much stronger leader than your braid mainline, which then connects to 1m Mono outside the guides. This stops the snap offs forever.

[SAfish]

Thanks Tony. I don't know how I missed this thread but I am going to switch to a braid leader as soon as possible. 

[fishatic]

Just a consideration when using light braid main line to a heavy braid casting leader to heavy mono:
When you snag, and you will, something needs to give.
I like a fuse somewhere up front such that I don't break my main line off 50m up....
Aside from cost and inconvenience, there is the harm 50m of braid flapping around a beach can cause

As an example:
25lb main line FG'd/stitched to 50lb braid leader; FG'd to 1m of .70mm mono - if you snag you run a high risk of breaking off your mainline as .70mm mono breaks somewhere around 50lb... (unknotted of course)  assume 10% loss when knotted and wet it should break at say 45lb; way more than your main line.

25lb main line FG'd/stitched to 50lb braid leader; FG'd to 1m of .50mm mono - if   you snag the wet knotted mono should break first...
Something you need to think about and test when you decide on your mono dia / breaking strain

[Don1234]

Hi guys just found this on youtube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIlMd6f1qGA

[Daniels58]

In conclusion, Line-twist is one of those problems that usually arises when some attention to the details of using a Spinning reel is ignored.

Hopefully, this article will help someone out there to have a more hassle free fishing experience, and to beat the dreaded curse of the Wind Knot!

With the advent of Fuji anti-tangle guides, KR Concept and so forth, this problem should be a thing of the past. If you're diligent with the stuff above and still suffering, then change the guides on your rod. You'll never look back.
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Best fishes!

  very helpful information

[misterkiddman]

Thanks Tony. I don't know how I missed this thread but I am going to switch to a braid leader as soon as possible. 

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[Denis]

Great article !! While dragging behind a boat is best, I have found that lying the line(nothing attached ) out straight on the missus's manicured lawn and reeling back under tension, a quickfix if rushing to get to the water.