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Stonebream
« on: July 12, 2011, 03:16:20 PM »
This topic arrives from WK's  :fshn:  report. The stonebream is a vegetarian and feeds red seaweeds. I have been pondering on this one and what can a person use that will resamble the red seaweed. As I have mentioned I have been catching them with a small piece of sardine and untidy wound cotton always leaving a few strings hanging, but their must be a way these can be targeted? They are excelent to catch as they give a good fight on light tackle.
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2011, 03:23:23 PM »
CAMO -WORM !!!

Thats the only way I have ever caught them !
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2011, 03:24:47 PM »
Quote from: Homie on July 12, 2011, 03:23:23 PM
CAMO -WORM !!!

Thats the only way I have ever caught them !
Do you get a good success rate?
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2011, 03:26:09 PM »
Superb fighting fish...

From what I have learned about this fish while trying to catch more of them is that you are right Willie, about 75% of their diet includes red seaweeds where the other 25% includes green seaweeds and small organisms as well as other creatures that are accidently ingested while feeding on the seaweed.

They readily take chokka and sardine baits along the Natal coast, generally these are juvenile fish and not bigger than 25cm, but shrimp and redbait is said to be the best bait for this species, which might explain why I caught the Stonebream on a few small sand prawns hooked through the tail...

In my many years of targeting them I have thrown all sorts of baits and used different techniques... Both my Stonebream were caught on float about 1 hour before low tide...
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 03:27:17 PM »
wouldnt really call it good... I got a few small fish that day... all on camo worm... but Ive onle ever caught stonies on the camo.
Biggest was about 25cm or so
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2011, 03:28:12 PM »
Quote from: Homie on July 12, 2011, 03:23:23 PM
CAMO -WORM !!!

Thats the only way I have ever caught them !
Hooked and lost one small Stonbream last year July on Camo Worm fished on the bottom with a light sinker and just letting it drift in the current...
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2011, 03:42:19 PM »
Always hear of people catching them on redbait?! Or maybe it's a different species...
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2011, 03:44:25 PM »
Quote from: John F on July 12, 2011, 03:42:19 PM
Always hear of people catching them on redbait?! Or maybe it's a different species...
I think it is the Stonebream Marcos because I have heard it is probably the best bait to use in the Eastern Cape for them off the rocks, I just can never find any  <:
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2011, 03:46:56 PM »
I will think that red bait will work just have to present it in a way that the fish will want it. So Marcos how do I make red bait look like seaweed?
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 04:03:08 PM »
In KZN the local guys usually only use the green sea weed as bait. This is where I was schooled in Stonie fishing.
Pinning the green lettuce as its called locally it in the stem or threading the thicker leaves through the hook.


Smaller strong hooks with a light ball or bottle sinker.
Throwing nearby in the rocks in less than a metre water sometimes. Best fishing for them on the incoming high tide.   
I've caught and seen some really big ones come out. Pushing between 2 and 3kg and bigger.


They will readily take sand prawns and in my opinion is probably the best bait for them having had much success on this bait. The big ones are probably only second to a brusher in fighting strength, from having lost some big ones! Have also had a few straightened and broken hooks fishing for them!
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2011, 04:10:51 PM »
Thanks Deonb I was at the coast last year October and I thought that using seaweed as bait sounds  duh  but there will give that a try as well. I even bought a red plastic squid and used the thin pieces but with no luck.
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2011, 04:13:55 PM »
@Willie: red bait is kinda "meaty" and when cut in strips would resemble red algae, I suppose....
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2011, 04:14:13 PM »
The Stonebream  often proves a very tricky fish to catch. Perseverance and patience is required when catching this hard fighting salt water fish species. Areas to fish for the Stonebream are primarily rocky areas with quite a bit of white water, although they are often caught in large tidal rock pools and in white water close to the shore.

The best bait for catching Stonebream are worms extracted from the rocky areas where they thrive at low tide. These worms are often amongst sea weed or mussels. Redbait and Shrimp are also 2 very good baits for catching Stone Bream. And with my many hours of perseverance I still have yet to catch one of these fish with Squid (Chokka) although the Dropshot fishing methods prove to land a lot of these fish! Camo Worm is a must for Stonebream on Dropshot!
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2011, 04:22:26 PM »
Here's a pic of a 2kg stonebream caught on prawn/pencil bait mix. Fish was released. (clap)

Caught by an aquaintance of mine...

Congrats to the angler WB.
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2011, 05:27:00 PM »
Great info guys, will try it out as well!
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2011, 06:02:10 PM »
Quote from: WalkersKiller on July 12, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
Great info guys, will try it out as well!

Ok so next week i want to you with a 2kg stonebream in the hand, or 2 x 1kg atleast..... Get out there and catch 'em all.
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2011, 06:05:53 PM »
How are these puppies??? ..Caught on Sea weed .....  :clwn
 
38 & 44 cm ...
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2011, 06:08:13 PM »
Kumz, those are great catches!! How did you put the weed on the hook? Thread it on like you do a blob bait?

Great thread this!
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2011, 06:10:28 PM »
Quote from: Kumz on July 12, 2011, 06:05:53 PM
How are these puppies??? ..Caught on Sea weed .....  :clwn
 
38 & 44 cm ...

Go Kumz, our own resident weed expert.... I mean sea weed expert... :crzy
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Re: Stonebream
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2011, 06:11:20 PM »
Thanks Reefer ..nah you tie it as if you putting on a chokka bait with tassles ... Tie it on shank of hook & leave some extra hanging below ....
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