How to make a weedless paddle tail rig?

[La Niņa]

I recently started throwing paddle tails for kob in the Breede and in False bay but lost interest quick after losing a good few lures on very foul bottom, especially in false bay. Can someone help me with some pics on rigging a paddle tail in order to fish it in very rough terrain?

[Lenny]

No pro .


But have also been faced with the same problem , with weeds and green gunk .


I read an artical on basilmaning site , regarding weedless , and long distance suggestions , gave me some ideas .


The best option i could come up with , are , a weighted , bass hook , the particular hook  I use are a small weight on the shank of the wide gap bass hook ( work hook )
The blog entry on basils site suggested otherwise , and also mentioned a type of Carolina rig ( this I would try to avoid , the weight will pick up a lot of stuff )


There are diy options to.
The bass hook setup , with the small weight on the shank are a no go on heavy currents , so no really an soloution .


Would be cool to hear other suggestions .

[La Niņa]

Cameron sent me this link, towards the end they rig them on bass hooks that looks perfect for where i fish! Anyone else use these hooks and method?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zZiR8ArFTk&feature=youtu.be

[Marthin]

Don the bass flukes have that gap in them already. before you cut up those expensive ones try with a few bass flukes/paddletails.

[La Niņa]

Don the bass flukes have that gap in them already. before you cut up those expensive ones try with a few bass flukes/paddletails.

Ok kwaai, ill look into it when i get near a tackle shop.

[Fishersteve]

I have tried to do this but was not that successful because diy attempts seem to be through lined and the problem then is the lure tends to roll over as theres no keel/balance weight to prevent this.


Best option is to buy them and there are a few types on the market but are quite pricey. Tsunami also make a cheaper version. Hopefully I can attach some pics of the version I use, must say they are pricey. There are 2  types shore and boat and the difference is the eye is placed at 90 degrees for the boat/vertical option.

[Fishersteve]

And the tsunami version

[La Niņa]

Looks good, did you manage to fish them in rough ground without getting stuck and did you notice any changes in your hookup rates as opposed to using exposed hooks?

[Fishersteve]

Looks good, did you manage to fish them in rough ground without getting stuck and did you notice any changes in your hookup rates as opposed to using exposed hooks?

Hook up rate is as good as it gets, the bodies are supple and any pressure on the body exposes the hook and you can literally bounce them off the bottom and through weed. They're about as snag proof as reeling a sinker along the bottom then.

[La Niņa]

Looks good, did you manage to fish them in rough ground without getting stuck and did you notice any changes in your hookup rates as opposed to using exposed hooks?

Hook up rate is as good as it gets, the bodies are supple and any pressure on the body exposes the hook and you can literally bounce them off the bottom and through weed. They're about as snag proof as reeling a sinker along the bottom then.

Thanks for your feedback, definitely going to go this route! Must just find suppliers down in Cpt

[LGF]

You oke's

Now you're bass fishing in the salt

Some guys up here use weighted hooks rather than the jig-head for bass, obviously the rigs you's need to use will have to be heavier, that said, the weighted hook allows for a far more natural presentation and for added attraction there's even the weighted hook that has an under-spin attached (little wire attaches spinning blade to weight) to it and we fish these rigs through heavy grass and submerged plants etc. with very little gunk-collection on the lure/hook point/weight and/or attached blade (under-spin)

In essence its the normal wide gap bass hook, weighted (some has a screw lock for the lures' nose) and as mentioned those that have an additional spinning blade at the bottom. "Owner" sells them as "Flashy Swimmers"

If you need to add weight in a different manner, then rather opt for the Bullet weight, Texas rigged and pegged with a stopper ("gummy"), that way you can up the weight as you require, skin hook the lure after rigged so that the point is embedded in the top/back of the lure and it should not pick up nonsense via the hook.

What we've found is that with the jig-head style rigs, you really want to retrieve it with speed, unless you're imitating a small fish feeding on the bottom, the weighted hook rigged lures can be retrieved at a much slower pace and when twitched and paused, it looks like an injured and/or dying baitfish and we all know what happens next

[La Niņa]

I was thinking the same thing how much this is leaning towards bass fishing. I know a couple of very good bass fishermen that have moved over to targetting kob up in the Breede river and using their experience they have been very successful in catching some pretty big kob!

[Fishersteve]

You oke's

Now you're bass fishing in the salt

Some guys up here use weighted hooks rather than the jig-head for bass, obviously the rigs you's need to use will have to be heavier, that said, the weighted hook allows for a far more natural presentation and for added attraction there's even the weighted hook that has an under-spin attached (little wire attaches spinning blade to weight) to it and we fish these rigs through heavy grass and submerged plants etc. with very little gunk-collection on the lure/hook point/weight and/or attached blade (under-spin)

In essence its the normal wide gap bass hook, weighted (some has a screw lock for the lures' nose) and as mentioned those that have an additional spinning blade at the bottom. "Owner" sells them as "Flashy Swimmers"

If you need to add weight in a different manner, then rather opt for the Bullet weight, Texas rigged and pegged with a stopper ("gummy"), that way you can up the weight as you require, skin hook the lure after rigged so that the point is embedded in the top/back of the lure and it should not pick up nonsense via the hook.

What we've found is that with the jig-head style rigs, you really want to retrieve it with speed, unless you're imitating a small fish feeding on the bottom, the weighted hook rigged lures can be retrieved at a much slower pace and when twitched and paused, it looks like an injured and/or dying baitfish and we all know what happens next

I suppose saltwater techniques and lures were adopted from freshwater fishing in years gone by and a lot of lures especially top waters are still actually produced for the freshwater bass fishing market. However saltwater lure fishing has evolved so much in the last couple of decades it deserves its own standing now in modern day lure fishing.

The lures above were designed specifically for use in the sea and areas La Nina would want to use them.

[travelmember]

La Nina, I am out of country for another month but when back I will arrange to get some hooks to you. They are light gauge 5/0 and 6/0 bent jig head hooks from an old mate Roger Bayzand of Sundance UK fame. We used to use them for wrecking for cod and bouncing a hump for turbot. Depending on the head you cast, they could be ideal. If so, I have the mould for 3 different head sizes as well. You are welcome to try.

[La Niņa]

La Nina, I am out of country for another month but when back I will arrange to get some hooks to you. They are light gauge 5/0 and 6/0 bent jig head hooks from an old mate Roger Bayzand of Sundance UK fame. We used to use them for wrecking for cod and bouncing a hump for turbot. Depending on the head you cast, they could be ideal. If so, I have the mould for 3 different head sizes as well. You are welcome to try.

Thank you very much for that offer, i would be very keen to take you up on that offer!! I am also away for another week or two but would be keen to meet up when you back!