Author Topic: R&S Grinder Setup (Read 6020 times)

Fishy · « **on:** August 01, 2014, 01:32:20 PM »

Gents,
I need some advice on a R&S setup. I'm currently using a 14ft Poseidon with a Saltist 50, but want to add a Grinder setup to the arsenal, mainly for Edibles.
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REEFMAN · « **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2014, 01:56:54 PM »

What's your budget? There's lots to choose from...
Eg: The latest and greatest Assassin Evo rods go for about R4K!
Shimano Bullseye costs about R5K last time I looked....

Fishy · « **Reply #2 on:** August 01, 2014, 02:03:38 PM »

Probably in the range of R 4-5K for rod and reel.

fishatic · « **Reply #3 on:** August 02, 2014, 09:11:53 AM »

Any specific preferences regarding length of rod and casting weight?

Half-Pint · « **Reply #4 on:** August 02, 2014, 04:27:32 PM »

Fishy I have done a bit of grinder fishing and have found the following things.

Try the different rod configurations to see if you like a higher seat (spinning style) or lower (multiplier style).

Dont bother with HMG rods they don't work on a grinder.

Look for something in 12-13foot any longer and its uncomfortable.

Reel wise I can only talk about the Ultegra. It is very functional but a mission to service. I don't believe any of the reels in this class are easy to service

krissi · « **Reply #5 on:** August 03, 2014, 08:04:39 AM »

My set-up is the Assassin Lite 14ft (I had bigger guides fitted for the grinder) with the Ultegra 5500 - I love it.

fishatic · « **Reply #6 on:** August 03, 2014, 08:32:53 AM »

Rod length is always personal; it will depend on your size/stature and how strong you are. Its no good buying a 14' stick if you don't have the strength to compress it properly.

14' is too long for me but perfect for other fishermen.

Fishy · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2014, 09:40:04 AM »

I'm currently using a 13ft poseidon 5piece. I works perfectly for me with a conventional multiplier. I'll probably stick to a 13ft rod dedicated to the a grinder, i.e. with the longer butt section.

i'll probably increase the budget a bit or start with the reel, i'm leaning towards the Ultegra.

ianf · « **Reply #8 on:** August 04, 2014, 12:28:41 PM »

Check out the Shimano Sustain reels....they are a treat to use.

Rapala9 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 05, 2014, 12:22:54 PM »

Im using a Blue Marlin Super Slim 13,6ft grinder rod.Reel is a Ultegra 14000 xsc with 50lb whiplash braid.Trough a 5oz with chokka bait a mile.

REEFMAN · « **Reply #10 on:** August 05, 2014, 01:52:41 PM »

There we go... now that's a perfect setup!
Only thing I would change is the make of the Braid.

Rapala9 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 05, 2014, 04:32:39 PM »

Hi Reefman,
Very lekka setup...so easy to handle and can throw a nice livebait as well for edibles.What would you rather put on the reel??must say the whiplash has treated me good so far...

Half-Pint · « **Reply #12 on:** August 05, 2014, 04:41:38 PM »

Suffix 832

whiplash is a 4 strand braid and as such has a lower abrasion resistance and also packs differently on the reel due to it being flatter. 832 is a casting braid made with 8 strands for better casting and abrasion resistance

REEFMAN · « **Reply #13 on:** August 05, 2014, 04:43:56 PM »

Whiplash is a flat braid, only has 4 weaves/strands. The newer casting braids are 8 weave, which makes the braid round and holding it's shape much better. The round braid packs much better on the spool and has less friction when peeling off the spool. Whiplash is the best backing braid, but for casting it's not that great. My recommendations for casting braid are the Sufix 832 and the PowerPro slick 8. I don't have experience with other brands like HMP-8, Gator braid, Saltiga casting braid, but many guys use them too. But you should definitely scope out the new 8 weave braids, they cast much better...

Rapala9 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 05, 2014, 04:49:41 PM »

make sense !Will check the 8 strands braids.But to spool that ultegra 14000 is $$$$ haha

kevind0809 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 05, 2014, 04:55:29 PM »

I am using an assassin medium XL grinder rod (14.6foot) with a ultegra 14000 XSC. I have 300m whiplash 50lb backing and 300m of 50lb suffex 832 braid as top shot. I am using a 100lb braid leader. This set up serves me very well. I caught raggie pups with it, kob, shad, small bronzies, 8 kg steenie , a few flatties and did not have a problem with it yet. The rod is very similar to the evo, the evo is slightly softer. I think the evo is a 6 to 8 oz, whereas the XL is 5 to 7. You more than welcome to feel and even cast my set up before you make any decisions.

REEFMAN · « **Reply #16 on:** August 05, 2014, 04:56:44 PM »

Quote from: Rapala9 on August 05, 2014, 04:49:41 PM

make sense !Will check the 8 strands braids.But to spool that ultegra 14000 is $$$$ haha

Keep most of the Whiplash on and just put an 8 weave on as topshot, like Kevin0809.

Rapala9 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 05, 2014, 08:01:37 PM »

what do you guys think of this rod with a ultegra.Then you go out and target steenies and kob...small chokka baits or n bloodworm .You should cast a mile with this setup...

REEFMAN · « **Reply #18 on:** August 06, 2014, 12:52:12 PM »

I would put the Ultegra 5500 on that rod. The 14000 is going to be really cumbersome on a light 12.9ft rod

fishy1969 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 06, 2014, 01:53:39 PM »

Reefs, what would a good allround combo be? I have the Assassin Beachmaster medium grinder rod and a Mitchell Avocast 8000. The two spools have 30lb and 50lb braid. I am happy with the rod and want to upgrade the reel. Am thinking Shimano Saragosa here. I love the summer flatties and then all the edibles. i dont really need to go with 50lb braid. is the Saragosa gonn be too much reel for my needs?