New grinder

[joshua]

good day ulimate anglers!
I want to start targeting sting rays and medium sized sharks with a grinder but need advise with which reel. Its between the Daiwa saltist 6500H or Shimano saragosa 18000f, I need the reel to last till I get my bulleyes

[joshua]

anyone

[REEFMAN]

good day ulimate anglers!
I want to start targeting sting rays and medium sized sharks with a grinder but need advise with which reel. Its between the Daiwa saltist 6500H or Shimano saragosa 18000f, I need the reel to last till I get my bulleyes

Joshua - are you looking at buying a new reel to do this while you wait for the Bullseye?
If that's the case, I would go with the Mitchell Avocast 8000. At under R2000, it's a good value option for what you're looking for, including the long cast spool, which the Saltist and Saragosa don't have.

[Seventenths]

Hi Joshua,
I can't comment on R&S but I have a 18k Saragosas and it worked ok for about a year then started to make a grinding noise. I use if for spinning from the boat (back up to my primary rod) and have targeted tail, YFT and some GT's with it. The noise was after low usage on heavy fish with good upkeep, so was not that impressed but I have to note it is still working and catching fish. It casts great and good line capacity and for the price seems to be a reasonable buy maybe I just got a dud and need to service it and I do like to crank up the drag which it has plenty of (44lbs) with a good retrieval rate (41 inches per crank as oppose to 51 of stella 18K) with a gear ratio of 4.9:1 but it is not a Stella in a cheap suit by any means. I should prob open it up and have a look but I am not a Reefman and usually end up with parts left over....
 
Wrt the Diawa, I cannot comment beyond the guys that have the seem to be very happy.
 
Good luck with your choice.

[Seventenths]

good day ulimate anglers!
I want to start targeting sting rays and medium sized sharks with a grinder but need advise with which reel. Its between the Daiwa saltist 6500H or Shimano saragosa 18000f, I need the reel to last till I get my bulleyes

Joshua - are you looking at buying a new reel to do this while you wait for the Bullseye?
If that's the case, I would go with the Mitchell Avocast 8000. At under R2000, it's a good value option for what you're looking for, including the long cast spool, which the Saltist and Saragosa don't have.

ha RM beat me to it while I was posting  .... this will be the best advice you can get mate...RM knows it all!!!

[Seventenths]

good day ulimate anglers!
I want to start targeting sting rays and medium sized sharks with a grinder but need advise with which reel. Its between the Daiwa saltist 6500H or Shimano saragosa 18000f, I need the reel to last till I get my bulleyes

Joshua - are you looking at buying a new reel to do this while you wait for the Bullseye?
If that's the case, I would go with the Mitchell Avocast 8000. At under R2000, it's a good value option for what you're looking for, including the long cast spool, which the Saltist and Saragosa don't have.

Sorry for the slight hijack Joshua -
Reefman... how much of a difference do the long cast spools make? and for my usage on a boat is it worthwhile?
7/10

[Shaun17]

For what it's worth, i've got both reels on the boat and never had issues with either... Admittedly, the Saragosa hasnt been tested properly yet, but the Saltist has landed a few decent sized (bycatch) hammerheads from the boat...
 
When in doubt about reels... follow Reefman

[joshua]

good day ulimate anglers!
I want to start targeting sting rays and medium sized sharks with a grinder but need advise with which reel. Its between the Daiwa saltist 6500H or Shimano saragosa 18000f, I need the reel to last till I get my bulleyes

Joshua - are you looking at buying a new reel to do this while you wait for the Bullseye?
If that's the case, I would go with the Mitchell Avocast 8000. At under R2000, it's a good value option for what you're looking for, including the long cast spool, which the Saltist and Saragosa don't have.

Sorry for the slight hijack Joshua -
Reefman... how much of a difference do the long cast spools make? and for my usage on a boat is it worthwhile?
7/10

RM that what ive also wanted to know how much of a difference does the spool make? where can I find a avocast ive never really looked for it

[Seventenths]

good day ulimate anglers!
I want to start targeting sting rays and medium sized sharks with a grinder but need advise with which reel. Its between the Daiwa saltist 6500H or Shimano saragosa 18000f, I need the reel to last till I get my bulleyes

Joshua - are you looking at buying a new reel to do this while you wait for the Bullseye?
If that's the case, I would go with the Mitchell Avocast 8000. At under R2000, it's a good value option for what you're looking for, including the long cast spool, which the Saltist and Saragosa don't have.

Sorry for the slight hijack Joshua -
Reefman... how much of a difference do the long cast spools make? and for my usage on a boat is it worthwhile?
7/10

RM that what ive also wanted to know how much of a difference does the spool make? where can I find a avocast ive never really looked for it

Basil manning have them listed on their website....

[REEFMAN]

Long Cast spool makes a HUGE difference to distance! The spool is longer and very shallow, so the line that would normally be much deeper on a narrow spool, doesn't struggle to get over the lip of the spool. Off the shallower spool, line comes off easier with less frisction against the lip, = 20-30% further casts.
7/10... dunno if that would make a difference on the boat? If you needed extra distance, that's what the Big Pit reels were designed for.
Mitchell reels are also stocked at MIAS.

[joshua]

thanks for the advise, Ill go have a look at he mitchell during the week

[Seventenths]

Long Cast spool makes a HUGE difference to distance! The spool is longer and very shallow, so the line that would normally be much deeper on a narrow spool, doesn't struggle to get over the lip of the spool. Off the shallower spool, line comes off easier with less frisction against the lip, = 20-30% further casts.
7/10... dunno if that would make a difference on the boat? If you needed extra distance, that's what the Big Pit reels were designed for.
Mitchell reels are also stocked at MIAS.

[Rory mundy]

bite the bullet and get a stella should be a few coming onto the market on ebay and the likes with the launch of the sw series.

[Rory mundy]

not sure if they any good to cast off beach though

[REEFMAN]

Ordinary Spinning reels work for casting off the beach, but if you're going to do this SurfGrinder thing properly, the best is to use the Big pit reels, with the long cast spools - the Shimano Bullseye is the best of the lot.