Author Topic: Swimming Wave Garrick (Read 16003 times)

WalkersKiller · « **on:** October 17, 2012, 10:55:45 AM »

Hi guys just want to see what you guys think on how this should be done.

Should one cast or slide the live fish, or can it be released with a hook in it and be allowed to swim freely with no sinker?

Where would you hook the Wave Garrick, behind the dorsal? How deep should the hook be placed without causing harm to the fish? I assume the Wave Garrick would then swim into the surf zone and could get picked up?

deepblu · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:02:05 AM »

Wk i think weightless will work well i have been think to rig a livie weightless with a balloon a few foot above the livie with the hope that the current will pull the balloon out to sea a lill further?

WalkersKiller · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:05:14 AM »

Sounds like a good idea

Homie · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:13:43 AM »

Depends on what you targeting...

Wave garrick are generally foung in the shore-dump, so if its weightless, they will stay in that area...

If you want to put them deeper, then a sinker is needed to keep them in the zone...

REEFMAN · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:15:04 AM »

Wave Garrick tend to be a little small for swim baits, so best way to do it is to slide them out... single hook, circle through the top jaw, or through the eye socket.
Another way to do it would be with a single hook through the Dorsal side. Put a little bung on past the hook barb to stop it coming out.
If you're after a Kingie, then a nylon trace would be best.

Half-Pint · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:15:36 AM »

A lot will depend on the size of the fish. A small wave garrick will drown with the weight of the line in which case sliding is clearly better. I'd pin the bait just like your standard bait for a garrick IE one hook in front of the dorsal and the other just behind it. This should put the pressure from behind and the fish will swim away from you .... In theory

craigb · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:16:27 AM »

ive tried the weightless way and the livey just gets washed up in the surf zone with a whole lot of tangled line.The sliding method works,I normaly cut the bottom of the dorsel fin off with scissors so the fish swims deep.The balloon option sounds interesting!

WalkersKiller · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:17:25 AM »

Awesome info thanks guys!

Rory mundy · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:28:54 AM »

baloon in the surf just get washed back to shore unless you get it into a rip out to see and there is no wind

deezynking · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:34:03 AM »

Slide bru... ascraigb.... tangles wasted line is such a headache.

WalkersKiller · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:38:21 AM »

Cool, thanks!

SAfish · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:40:26 AM »

Great and interesting info. I am sure this will work with other species like Mullet as well.

MIKE PIKE · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:41:59 AM »

Agree slide out on a non-return , u want the livey out in deeper water where a passing game fish or shark will see/feel him , i add a small bite(100 to 150lb steel short piece) trace on the trace as well so if a shark picks it up u have added protection or if a GT takes him , some protection if he trys to cut u off on the rocks

craigb · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2012, 11:48:49 AM »

oops!!! meant tail fin.

Toppie · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2012, 12:56:55 PM »

Gareth, the place where you are going to fish has some very nice sized Garrick. Secret to present it to Kingfish is that it must be in distress but as lively possible.

Obviously a smaller speciment should be slid. If it a nice large strong one I'd hook it behind the dorsal, wade deep enough and gently flip it as far as possible and give it enough line to get into the backline. Kingy guaranteed.

Mistake some make is that if you rig for casting, the poor fish is either going to be stunned (and soon dead) or killed when it hits the water attached to an 8 or 9 oz sinker.

When wading at that place just be very careful of Johny's.

WalkersKiller · « **Reply #15 on:** October 17, 2012, 01:00:09 PM »

Thanks Toppie

deepblu · « **Reply #16 on:** October 17, 2012, 01:07:21 PM »

Toppie your last sentance about johnys would make me very nevrous

Quote from: Toppie on October 17, 2012, 12:56:55 PM

Gareth, the place where you are going to fish has some very nice sized Garrick. Secret to present it to Kingfish is that it must be in distress but as lively possible.

Obviously a smaller speciment should be slid. If it a nice large strong one I'd hook it behind the dorsal, wade deep enough and gently flip it as far as possible and give it enough line to get into the backline. Kingy guaranteed.

Mistake some make is that if you rig for casting, the poor fish is either going to be stunned (and soon dead) or killed when it hits the water attached to an 8 or 9 oz sinker.

When wading at that place just be very careful of Johny's.

KING-GT · « **Reply #17 on:** October 18, 2012, 11:08:12 AM »

Wave Garrick are absolute troopers! My fav live bait for Kingies! Like most have covered it, best thing is to use a non return clip. If you get the bigger ones, like far up Vidal North, id swim that with no hesitation. They big enough to handle the wave zone and get absolutely smoked by Blackfin or Kingies as they naturally swim near the surface (no near to clip tails etc)

If swimming the larger ones, stick a hook close to the anal fin and then one near the pec fin.

Southern Pompano is chiefs! Swim one at Vidal and you will get pulled!

WalkersKiller · « **Reply #18 on:** October 18, 2012, 11:10:34 AM »

Awesome, thanks buddy!

WJ · « **Reply #19 on:** October 18, 2012, 11:19:33 AM »

I use a single circle just above the head when sliding a small livey, that helps the bait to not drown and 8/10 times you get a hook up.
For bigger liveys a double J-Hook trace with the first hook through the top lip(not too deep) and the trailing hook just through the skin in the mid section of the fish. The first hook is generally a light 5/0 and the second a 6/0. This is what works for me. I will not use any livey less than a kg for swimming.