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Title: What the ???
Post by: jaenswart on September 20, 2010, 08:45:54 PM
Anybody seen these, know these or can help me figure out why they would do it. From sea striker
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/tackle_2123_62479568)
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: fedu on September 20, 2010, 09:17:39 PM
I have some of those.

Used on cod jigging traditionally above the jig.

Trolled here in Luanda for "Serra" mackerel, on trolling some guys use a yellow bic pen also, it works.
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: jaenswart on September 20, 2010, 09:22:54 PM
I have some of those.

Used on cod jigging traditionally above the jig.

Trolled here in Luanda for "Serra" mackerel, on trolling some guys use a yellow bic pen also, it works.

Please explain how one would rig this Fedu, or the Bic pen for that matter :-)
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: fedu on September 20, 2010, 09:42:25 PM
Forgot to mention they are used in USA for Barracuda and there they call it Surge Lure.

here is a video

barracuda fishing with tube lure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnPjhGwRkis#)


Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: jaenswart on September 20, 2010, 09:46:57 PM
This is something I need to investigate, build and try out here for king mackerel and queen mackerel.

WOW
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: Capt. Hook on September 20, 2010, 09:51:01 PM
Thanks Fedu, looks like it is fished like a spoon
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: jaenswart on September 20, 2010, 09:52:13 PM
(http://www.fishfinatic.com/Images/TubeLures/TubeOrange-153_5305-75-5.jpg)
(http://www.stripedbassacademy.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jigtube006.jpg)
(http://www.striperspace.com/simages/tube_lure_560.gif)
(http://www.acmetackle.com/graphics/kmtube.gif)
(http://www.larryslures.com/db4/00329/larryslures.com/_uimages/P3110006.JPG)
(http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/attachment.php?s=e3a99b4ef42b292984be087d96d264a5&attachmentid=261989&stc=1&d=1248292821)
(http://www.pointjudelures.com/tins//images/stories/lures/silver/po-jee-flo-green-tube2_thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: fedu on September 20, 2010, 09:55:38 PM

How to  make them:

A single strand of wire is attached to the large ball swivel, and then runs through the tube where it is attached to a trebel hook about midway down the length of the tube. This hook is attached, by simply running the wire through the eye and making a twist. The wire then extends down the tube, to the bottom, and another treble hook is attached where the tube's tapered tail begins.
The tube lure has a purposefully built in curve to it, which makes it "spiral" in the water.

some guys don't use the "center" hook they say the center hook method of connection creates a "weak link" in the lure. By running the wire through the hook, and making a twist, it creates a weak spot in the wire.


Do you want me to post the traditional Nothern Europe jigging cod eel also ?
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: BluFlu on September 20, 2010, 09:58:19 PM
Please Fedu
 
Looks very interesting - do any of you guys spin with these?
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: jaenswart on September 20, 2010, 09:58:44 PM


Do you want me to post the traditional Nothern Europe jigging cod eel also ?

yes please Fedu
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: Capt. Hook on September 20, 2010, 09:59:10 PM
Please
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: fedu on September 20, 2010, 10:02:01 PM
Ok, first let me show you what old timers here in Luanda used to use for fish very similar to your King Mackerel.

They used yellow pens like this one, rigged it exacly the same way has the surge tube and trolled it around .

P.S. - Take the cap and the inside ink tube out of course :-)
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: fedu on September 20, 2010, 10:15:57 PM
These are the traditional eels used by the Northern European

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/fedu69/artigos/Scanned_Picture02230432_copy-Edit-E.jpg)

Traditionally they use to rig it above the jig like seen on this pic and on some slow days the cod would only attack the eel instead of the jig, you would just stop the jig and allow the currect to "shake" the eel making the fish attack it

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/fedu69/artigos/pirking-cod.jpg)

These are some of the traditional jigs used on cod fishing

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/fedu69/artigos/Scrabster_Feb_06_-_Part_2_053_mediu.jpg)

Nowdays they make this king of cod jigs that have the eel incorporated on the jig

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/fedu69/artigos/leadfreePirk.jpg)


The much apreciated cod of the depths

(http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq280/fedu69/artigos/08-0220-ling-cod-440.jpg)
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: Capt. Hook on September 20, 2010, 10:20:30 PM
Thanks, now I want to try some.
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: fedu on September 20, 2010, 10:26:23 PM
(http://www.fishfinatic.com/Images/TubeLures/TubeOrange-153_5305-75-5.jpg)
(http://www.stripedbassacademy.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jigtube006.jpg)
(http://www.striperspace.com/simages/tube_lure_560.gif)
(http://www.acmetackle.com/graphics/kmtube.gif)
(http://www.larryslures.com/db4/00329/larryslures.com/_uimages/P3110006.JPG)
(http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/attachment.php?s=e3a99b4ef42b292984be087d96d264a5&attachmentid=261989&stc=1&d=1248292821)
(http://www.pointjudelures.com/tins//images/stories/lures/silver/po-jee-flo-green-tube2_thumb.jpg)

Jaenswart,

Very nice those with weights on the top, clever ideia do you know where to get them ?

I only have the traditional ones :-(
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: benniejordaan on September 20, 2010, 10:28:40 PM
Me too, wonder how effective they will be simply attached to a lead weight and dragged along the bottom over a reef letting the current do the work?
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: Capt. Hook on September 20, 2010, 10:29:49 PM
Me too, wonder how effective they will be simply attached to a lead weight and dragged along the bottom over a reef letting the current do the work?

Bennie where can we get some of this tubing???????
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: benniejordaan on September 20, 2010, 10:44:48 PM
Bennie where can we get some of this tubing???????

I'm not sure, but I think I have some coloured tubing at work. Will check tomorrow! I also have some stuff called hollow polychord???
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: fedu on September 20, 2010, 10:49:44 PM
Just look

http://www.hiliner.com/rec/morelures.htm (http://www.hiliner.com/rec/morelures.htm)
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: nico on September 20, 2010, 11:46:18 PM
I've used them, either above a weight or a jig, in the Irish sea to jig for pollock and cod. I think they are supposed to mimic a sand eel.
 
I also have daisy chains of really small ones, ending with a clark spoon, to use for bonnies.
 
Have never considered trawling a larger one!
Title: Re: What the ???
Post by: jaenswart on September 21, 2010, 07:23:58 AM
Jaenswart,

Very nice those with weights on the top, clever ideia do you know where to get them ?

I only have the traditional ones :-(

fedu,

I just googled the images, but I'm pretty sure once we get some tubing that they are quite easy to make
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