Author Topic: Swim bait trace Mike "Mongoose" version. (Read 15842 times)

MIKE PIKE · « **on:** May 24, 2011, 09:17:06 PM »

With all the discussion on various swim bait traces i decided to give it a bash as well , here"s mine with slight differences : The hardware.
(1) 1.1mm s/s cable (electric fence wire) length 3.5m
(2) 10/0 Mustad Big Game s/s hooks x 2
(3) No 6 Powerswivel ballbearing type x 1
(4) Plastic thimble x 1
(5) Heavy duty crimps x 4

MIKE PIKE · « **Reply #1 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:20:30 PM »

Next up i bound the 2 x 10/0 hooks back to back with 130 lb dacron and then covered with shrink sleeve.

MIKE PIKE · « **Reply #2 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:23:54 PM »

Flemish through the eye's of the hooks , double crimped and finished off with the sleeving.

MIKE PIKE · « **Reply #3 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:26:28 PM »

Next was the ball bearing swivel and thimble with double crimp as well.

MIKE PIKE · « **Reply #4 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:33:58 PM »

Completed 3.5m swimbait trace with 2 x 10/0 big game hooks , on the other end of the swivel i still have the option of adding 3 to 4m c/coated steel or just going directly to my leader of 1.4 to 1.6mm (wind-on) , the double hook set up is attached to the small shark/ swimbait just behind the dorsal fin , through flap of skin and the other hook lies on the back of swimbait , or stands slightly proud.

sea sick · « **Reply #5 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:56:01 PM »

hey mike

some wild hooks there bud.
do you think the flemish eye knot will hold?

these buggers do have some hard crunching jaws.
dont want the knot to fail.
a close up would do............

nice by the way

ss

MIKE PIKE · « **Reply #6 on:** May 24, 2011, 10:00:05 PM »

Thanks , hope the flemish will hold , will also look at other methods of attaching cable to hook eyes as i make the other traces.

sea sick · « **Reply #7 on:** May 24, 2011, 10:14:03 PM »

Mike

the reason for my question.
up at st lucia we use to have the kingie runs during september october.
i have seen where 9o kendals cut open split rings due to kingies smashing the spoons.
you tend to get a side cutter effect.

would a seperate knot to each not work better?
its gonna be bigger, but what the hell, it seems it's rated for in eds

ss

Fritz · « **Reply #8 on:** May 25, 2011, 05:38:28 AM »

Very nice rig you got their Mike.

Kumz · « **Reply #9 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:18:02 AM »

Nice one Mike ...

REEFMAN · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:32:54 AM »

Nice Mike!!

Those Mustad Big Game hooks are beautiful hey!?

@ ss - Absolutely no reason why the Flemish eye with Crimps wouldn't hold... it's a knot used throughout the Big Game fishing world with great success. The key is in crimping properly. Not so crucial in steel, but vital when crimping mono... it's a whole art on it's own!

Also, the split rings that come standard on most commercial spoons and lures are totally useless, and need to be replaced. This includes the proper Halco Poppers and most other brands. Ask yourself why the best quality lures are so expensive - it's because of the split rings, hooks and swivels being used....
Eg: the ball bearing swivel used in the above Swim trace costs anything from R15 - R40..... EACH!
A decent OWNER split ring is expensive!

Half-Pint · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:48:02 AM »

lekker trace Mike! I'm a little bit worried with all these big hooks are we compensating for something

Rory · « **Reply #12 on:** May 25, 2011, 08:04:21 AM »

Super stuff Mike, thanks for sharing!

Lichia amia · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2011, 08:07:09 AM »

Lekker one Mr.Mongoose ! Have some cred !

WalkersKiller · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2011, 08:21:03 AM »

Awesome informative post Mike

+ cred

you need to tie me some traces for vidal

MIKE PIKE · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2011, 08:35:16 AM »

No problem , u supply i make for mahala..

WalkersKiller · « **Reply #16 on:** May 25, 2011, 08:37:24 AM »

Quote from: MIKE PIKE on May 25, 2011, 08:35:16 AM

No problem , u supply i make for mahala..

John F · « **Reply #17 on:** May 25, 2011, 09:38:15 AM »

Great post Mike! +cred!

Yeap... agree with Reefz... the flemish plus crimp is standard in big game fishing... not really sure why all the R7S guys have such reserves with this method?!

BigG · « **Reply #18 on:** May 25, 2011, 12:30:34 PM »

Love those Big game hooks, great post Mike

Cred due

steve m · « **Reply #19 on:** May 25, 2011, 07:20:43 PM »

That flemish eye is super strong! With coated cable to my slide I do a flemish and finish it off with a few wrapps so with double crimped it is 100%.
Only thing that I would do differant is to do the flemish eye onto the swivle aswell but I don't think that it matters much...

@ reefs why do you use such expensive swivels 3/0 power swivels are super strong! Something like 316kgs if I remember correctly? And the are about R3.50 each also the guys in the SC have got some monsters on them that break everything from 440lb cable ( jump off and bite off) to 20/0 circles so if the swivel survives that then it will be enough for a swimbait???