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Trolling skipping dead baits for billfish has a long tradition. This has turned into an art and science of its own due to the intricacies of rigging and sewing the bait properly. Several  baits can be used, with the most common being halfbeaks, mullets and mackerels (although any other slender fish one can find will do!).

Now, it is my perception that trolling skipping dead baits has been dying slowly as the preferred method for billfishing, at least in our region. The messy, time consuming, rigging process and the fact that the baits must be trolled relatively slow, I believe, have contributed to the rise of either plastic lures, which can be trolled pretty fast, or live baits (which are very effective... when you can get them!).

Now, I really like konas and the rest of it, but I also try my best to "re-invent the wheel" with cheap, easy and DIY solutions.

Here's a method I have come up with for using dead baits, and trolling them fast to target billfish.

A few reasons/situations where using the method below can be a viable option:

- No live bait around;

- You want to add variety to your typical 100% plastic spread;

- You want to go a bit faster than just 2-3 knots you go with live baits;

- Very easy and quick to rig, and the bait will not come off in choppy seas;

- You can rig a bunch of them the day before and use them as pitch baits, as well;

- It will only take 15 sec to rig on board;

- You can troll much faster (5-6 knots), in our choppy seas and the bait will hold for at least 30 min!

- It works pretty much with any slender bait [bonitos, barracuda, mullet, halfbeak, "carapau" (=horse mackerel), etc.];

- After the first hit, the bait will not fall apart in pieces, thus prompting the billfish to eat the "whole package"!


To good to be true?


Here's what you need:

- Regular catalina rig (match the hook size to you bait!);

- Both "J" or circle hooks can be used (when in doubt, go circle!);

- 1 x latex colorless condom (go cheap here);

- Bait clip (I build my own, but any of those commercially available will do - again, match it to your bait size);

- Small cable tie;

- Super glue;

Once the cable tie has locked the bait clip to the hook, put some drops of superglue just to hold it there while trolling (don't worry, as soon as a marlin hits
the bait it will become loose!). 

The pics below are self explanatory!

[The mullet I used for illustration purposes is a bit small for the hook. You can actually see the condom a bit loose!).

This method can also be used with live baits (without the condom). Just stick the bait clip through the upper jaw and you're in business!

Once rigged, I would suggest running 2 of these on the riggers. It can also be used in the shotgun position, just after the propwash.

Match it with two large, dark colored, smoking konas in the corners, and I'm sure you'll be stretched!

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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 01:37:53 PM »
Ah one more thing... the condom goes head first, the usual way! ... Depending on the size of the bait, you can trim the tip of the condom...
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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 01:51:04 PM »
Absolutely excellant. Well done JOHNF. Impressive rig. Can you explain the condom please? Is it to cover the bait for freezing?

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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 01:56:26 PM »
No, not for freezing (I guess you can do that as well!)... it's mainly to protect the bait from washing out quickly as you'll be trolling a bit faster...
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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 01:58:56 PM »
Cool nothing like protection against the wet.... :ayb.....Thanks JOHNF.

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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2010, 04:28:11 PM »
Very nice!
if you dont mind me asking what circle hook is that?
thanks

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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2010, 05:00:02 PM »
To be honest steve m, I have no idea... It's a no brand hook I bought loose in Ponta do Ouro... for a circle it looks like a 12/0 or 14/0 size... any guesses?
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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 05:10:07 PM »
To be honest steve m, I have no idea... It's a no brand hook I bought loose in Ponta do Ouro... for a circle it looks like a 12/0 or 14/0 size... any guesses?

ok cool thanks.

what is the biggest ones that you use for marlin?

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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 05:17:26 PM »
For marlin, I've seen from 12/0 to 16/0 and I'm sure one can get them bigger... the one shown above is the size I'm using... we usually don't get monster marlins here, and this size would suit both sailfish and marlin...
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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2010, 05:23:40 PM »
Very nice idea!!

have some cred!

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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2010, 05:38:32 PM »
Very nice idea!!

have some cred!

Thank you, Sir!
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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2010, 05:57:02 PM »
thanks john!
cred for you

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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2010, 07:07:58 PM »
Nice one John,
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Just an important point for everyone to note:
See where the bridle is attached to the hook, this is extremly important when using Circle hooks to get a sure hook set, the wrong position would be higer up towards the barb like you would do for a J-Hook and would cause bad hook ups.
When your Marlin/Saily hits this rig with a circle you need to let him run a bit and DO NOT EVER strike, just gently tighten the drag and the fish/hook will connect themselves automatically.
I have also heard it said on several occasions that when the wind is pumping it is better to use J hooks.
With Circles a 12/0-16/0 is all you need, with J-Hooks they need to have a gape wider that the grith of the bait you are pulling.

John, well done on the condom idea. :ayb

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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2010, 07:12:17 PM »
Thanks steve m and FA,

I do appreciate your advice!
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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2010, 10:38:22 PM »
Awesome idea! Do you not sleep! Bud, have some cred!

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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2010, 10:52:58 PM »
Ah one more thing... the condom goes head first, the usual way! ... Depending on the size, you can trim the tip of the condom...


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Re: John F's baits: Fast skipping dead baits for billfish
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2010, 02:29:44 AM »
@ bennie: Thanks! You know what Bon Jovi says about sleeping?!...

@FA: oops... only now I realized the full meaning of what I wrote... lol... no harm intended.... eh eh eh he
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