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Title: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Quickbite on July 22, 2010, 09:18:18 AM

Morning all-
 
need some advice on a knot...
 
got some line on a reel- - and i wana top up with new line. - the line are different diameters...
CAn i use the normal catspaw- or is there another special knot?
 
Thanks in advance
 
regards
 
QB

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Homie on July 22, 2010, 09:23:09 AM

My advice,

Take out the old line, and fill new ! You just gonna have a weak spot on your line, and this can snag during casting etc. Not worth the headache !


If you have to join, use a back to back fig 8, providing the diameters are not too far apart

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Jakes on July 22, 2010, 09:32:34 AM

Another knot you can use that's also very strong is the Spyker knot or you can also do a fig 8 to Uni knot but I second Homie that re-spooling will always be the best option.

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Quickbite on July 22, 2010, 09:35:08 AM

Homes.... there probably about 100m of line as the backing... and its on small shimano 15/30....
 
So if i can get 200m on top- doubt i will ever see the line underneath  -unless i hook into unstoppable bus..... plus i can use 600m spool 3 times...
 
Will try the catpaws and put it on my back- to see if it breaks- if it does will try the back to back 8..

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Quickbite on July 22, 2010, 09:36:28 AM

Quote from: Jakes on July 22, 2010, 09:32:34 AM

Another knot you can use that's also very strong is the Spyker knot or you can also do a fig 8 to Uni knot but I second Homie that re-spooling will always be the best option.

Havent thought about that Jakes.... i can even make bimini ...and normally fig 8 - just like how join leader...
Thanks for tip :resp:

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Homie on July 22, 2010, 09:40:22 AM

QB,

Whats the Diameter of both the lines ???

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Quickbite on July 22, 2010, 09:43:38 AM

i think the line underneath - is 15 pound... but i wana top with 20 pound..
Homes- not sure about dia..

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Homie on July 22, 2010, 09:50:20 AM

Back to back fig 8 should be fine.

As you say, you probably never going to get to the join, But, if you do, thats when the trouble starts !

Having a lower breaking strain line as backing is not good ! no matter the knot you use, the weakest point is going to be the backing line, and when that goes, so does all your topshot !

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Jakes on July 22, 2010, 09:57:00 AM

Quote from: Homie on July 22, 2010, 09:50:20 AM

Back to back fig 8 should be fine.

As you say, you probably never going to get to the join, But, if you do, thats when the trouble starts !

Having a lower breaking strain line as backing is not good ! no matter the knot you use, the weakest point is going to be the backing line, and when that goes, so does all your topshot !

DITTO !!! ... rather re-spool

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: REEFMAN on July 22, 2010, 10:00:34 AM

If you have to join nylon, the best knot to use is, as Homie says, the double fig 8.... small, very strong. No need for Bimini's. It will always be a weak spot in your setup, but if you have to, thats the way to go.

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Jakes on July 22, 2010, 10:12:31 AM

Quote from: REEFMAN on July 22, 2010, 10:00:34 AM

If you have to join nylon, the best knot to use is, as Homie says, the double fig 8.... small, very strong. No need for Bimini's. It will always be a weak spot in your setup, but if you have to, thats the way to go.

Quickbite ... the knot-authority has spoken ...  (hap

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: Quickbite on July 22, 2010, 10:26:24 AM

Quote from: Jakes on July 22, 2010, 10:12:31 AM

Quickbite ... the knot-authority has spoken ...  (hap

 
 :rotfl  - atleast i got permission ...  :happ:

Title: Re: Joining- line- to line backing
Post by: REEFMAN on July 22, 2010, 10:29:32 AM

Sheish... you okes are full of it...!  :pot:

 :sml: