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General Angling Topics => Rock and Surf Traces and Rigs => Topic started by: Fritz on April 29, 2011, 08:29:10 AM
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I have spent many hours next to the waters edge watching guys make their slides up and baiting them up with all the bells and wistles that we can think of just to try and out smart our next fish.
I have allways wondered why we use the colours that we do.
So lets hear from one another why we choose a sertain colour, flash or no flash.
Please post some pictures and reason.
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Good question ... as i always thought fish are colour blind....
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Some thoughts on a huge subject!
On slide baits I swear by Couta dusters... purple, pink and silver... the longer the flash the better. That glitter just seems to attract more fish than the plain plastic ones.
On edible baits, Chokka presentations, I prefer using blue foam beneath the chokka... gives the chokka a kind of translucent look - like the bait has a "full belly"... more appetising?? I have found that blue foam outfishes red and white.
Spinning and plugging... the red and white ones have proven themselves repeatedlky over the years... don't think it's much to do with the colours, but rather the contrast?
The age old maxim for spinning... darker colours in darker conditions and brighter colours in sunny conditions works time and time again... why? :dunno: It defies logic, but that's the way it works... Dark conditions: Purples, dark green Sunny conditions: Red/white, Pink/orange, Blue/silver and white.
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Hi Reefman.Ive been using the red foam on my squid and chokka traces and i dont seem to get as many pulls.I watched your bait presentation on chokka bait the other day and wondered why the blue foam.Will def switch to blue and see if theres a diff. :tkx: for the info. :happ:
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Same here craigb. Was always thinking why the guys would use the blue foam and not the red or white. Must agree with your theory on this one Tony, it actually makes sence. :tkx:
I on the other hand will use 95% of the time a pink skirt like the one on the photo. I'm a fan of PINK you know. The skirt has this silver part to it and white to the bottom and about 13cm long. They have worked for me and I can really not complain.
On my throw baits I like usesing a snoek duster LIVE GLOW it actually looks awsome in the water.
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Ya Fritz the pink plastic ones with the glitter in them are the only plastic ones I'll use, 'cos the Couta dusters tend to work out very expensive for a slide trace.
On edibles though, the Pink and green Yamashita plastic skirts are deadly!
Also got hold of the new Glow skirts recently, haven't yet used one though. I'd be interested to find out how they go...
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:tkx: Fritz havent tried the pink skirts( :hehe:) Will give it a try.I normaly use the duster with the silver,green and gold. :clfoto: Ive just removed all the red foam from my box.Shopping tomorrow :clwn
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Have a look at Kings they have them for about R13-00 for a pack of vife.
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At one of the Leeukop socials Kumzie was telling me about a rattle that is added to the slide to make some noise. Has anybody tried this?
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have a look at the post I did with the bait carrier and circle hook. And it does work. Very well I must add.
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When fishing for kob onday,had my bait out all nice and trimed perfect for them.....and nothing so I pulled back in,made up another one,exactly the same as the 1st,but this time I put the bait in GLITTER....half red half silver.....30min later I had my kob on the sand..now not sure if this glitter had anything to do with it,so I tried it at Langabaan lagoon,baited up for a spottie and,dipped it in the glitter again,1hr later 5.5kg elf.....now I have my glitter the whle time in my tackel box....
Oh just one thing....let the better half know you use this stuff as you dont want to come home and get a beating of note,cause you said fishing and you full of glitter,makes the other half wonder where you really where!!! :hehe:
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Oh just one thing....let the better half know you use this stuff as you dont want to come home and get a beating of note,cause you said fishing and you full of glitter,makes the other half wonder where you really where!!! :hehe:
Was interrogated for 20 min about the glitter that blew in my ear as well . Scary stuff !!! :+
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I don't use skirts and that stuff much anymore mainly because in CT the water is normall very dirty and it wilklk just be a waste of money... But I always have afew skide traces with skirts on because when I skide the tail section of the bait or ockies or chokka I find that it helps to make the bait slide out faster because it makes it more streamlined...
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Although time consuming when fishing time is limited, i almost always tie eyes to my chokka baits, and i love using the glow sticks at night
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@WW I tried that glitter trick once about two years back and it did nothing for me. But i was allso not fishing for cob but rather for sharks. I was also clever when getting it, I asked my wife to get me some, I was never driled about me coming back home with glitter on me. But in my case it back fired and I was teased for weeks on end about me thinking that the stuff was going to improve my fishing
@ Steve. Fishing in water that has colour in it like you guys get I would allso not use anything, but our water up here is generally clean and we have to pull out all the tricks to intice that bite.
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Reefz will remember the good ol days about the stories of pink skirts and blue foam :)
Slide rigs - Pink Yashamita skirts
Precision baits - Blue foam
Pink n blue be my colours...Guess ifyou really believe in something....it will work :)
Im very superstitious when it comes to angling.... :dunno:
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Reefz will remember the good ol days about the stories of pink skirts and blue foam :)
:hehe: those were the days ne! The Inner circle 'n all!
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Here's a pic of the Couta Dusters I use.... the longer the better
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At one of the Leeukop socials Kumzie was telling me about a rattle that is added to the slide to make some noise. Has anybody tried this?
There are a few guys that have used it with varied results .... w;k ...
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iv noticed guys who use fresh bait with bling works well, however i once went out to sea and a chips packet flew into the water and it got picked up by a fish. not sure if they smaaked simbas mrs balls chutney flavour...lol
we cut it in strips foil side up, and caught 1dorado, missed the other 1 and 2small natal snoek... call it luck or being intelligent. i leave that up to you.
but all the fancy lures did not produce nix.
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You are their deezynking. I had the same happen to me some years back sailing back from Brazil to Cape Town. I ran out of lures that I was using behind the boat to get fresh fish for our trip( 32 days).
I ended up using some moring line and bound a packet of crisps inside out onto the mooring line. About 15 min. later I was gutting a masive big Dorado bull. " that was the best tasting meat I ever had "
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You are their deezynking. I had the same happen to me some years back sailing back from Brazil to Cape Town. I ran out of lures that I was using behind the boat to get fresh fish for our trip( 32 days).
I ended up using some moring line and bound a packet of crisps inside out onto the mooring line. About 15 min. later I was gutting a masive big Dorado bull. " that was the best tasting meat I ever had "
WOW, that must have been an epic adventure. salute.
its amazing what works .... fishing is a mind boggling thing at times
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:hehe: those were the days ne! The Inner circle 'n all!
@Tony and Eugene
How good is your memory....do you recall you coined the phrase " inner circle"
Rdgs
Jace
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Plastic glow in the dark squid skirts on all my slides and pink/red or translucent with glitter on the edible traces , sometimes a glow bead as well for added attraction, works for me.
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@ SS
I dont think that we have to do the skirt thing. I have many time fished without one. Particulerly when the fish are biting and I run out of traces, I end up having to tie a nother one on the rocks while my mates are fishing and " bok koors" sets in you forget about the skirt but at the end of the day you where still getting fish just as fast as your mates.
I think that the flash in our skirts or the fact that they glow is purely as a added atraction. Hopefully it catches the eye when the shark is "down wind " from the bate
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Sowy for the hijack ... jus Asking ???
But on the same lines , do any of you decorate your Spoons & Plugs ???
Using maybe a bucktail , reflector tape , etc ???
Lets see your pics ??
Fritz i have seen your spoons ... w;k
Let's get some ideas ..with the Silver tide fast approaching ... :fshn:
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Thats fishing, one day it works and the other not :dunno:
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My choice of skirts will be as said, the pink yamashita skirts on slide rigs. Always produced a fish or three for me. Regarding the blue foam, it does work. On our trip to chidenguelle in 2009, I were fishing with white foam, and Jan (skrops) were fishing with blue foam. Guest what, the entire week we were there, he was the only one to get into fish everyday!! For a whole week!! It works!