Author Topic: off shore for beginners (Read 17143 times)

sea sick · « **Reply #20 on:** May 27, 2011, 08:31:45 AM »

hey cam

When are you guys going down again?

Mine arse is itching............

Thanks for the input

Ss

Cam Mundy · « **Reply #21 on:** May 27, 2011, 08:49:54 AM »

We're hoping to get down during the public holiday next month for a few days at Vidal looking at chasing a few Sailfish

I just need to add a few layers to the brown ring round my neck to get some leave as I'm pretty much in negative credits at the moment from all the fishing trips this year.

jaenswart · « **Reply #22 on:** May 27, 2011, 09:22:56 AM »

Quote from: sea sick on May 26, 2011, 01:43:07 PM

but vidal would most probably be the no 1 spot.

Vidal is easy. get behind the breaker. drive to 16m water and put out your dead sardines. That's all you need to do. you don't need waypoints to be succesful

sea sick · « **Reply #23 on:** May 27, 2011, 10:03:19 AM »

cam

Looking at st lucia from the 1-10 of july.
Dont know if everything would be sorted by then.
Lets hope so.

Jean
I have seen many boats at vidal, just off the point.
Are they drifting sardine there to catch cuda?

Ss

jaenswart · « **Reply #24 on:** May 27, 2011, 10:08:33 AM »

Quote from: sea sick on May 27, 2011, 10:03:19 AM

cam

Looking at st lucia from the 1-10 of july.
Dont know if everything would be sorted by then.
Lets hope so.

Jean
I have seen many boats at vidal, just off the point.
Are they drifting sardine there to catch cuda?

Ss

yebo

benniejordaan · « **Reply #25 on:** May 27, 2011, 10:18:22 AM »

Quote from: jaenswart on May 27, 2011, 10:08:33 AM

yebo

Hey Jaen, how come you and your boet never fish together??

sea sick · « **Reply #26 on:** May 27, 2011, 10:28:03 AM »

guys,
Do you troll up current and down current?

Ss

benniejordaan · « **Reply #27 on:** May 27, 2011, 10:32:27 AM »

Quote from: sea sick on May 27, 2011, 10:28:03 AM

guys,
Do you troll up current and down current?

Ss

The important thing is to not troll into or with the swell but rather at and angle to it. So work a zig zag pattern.

jaenswart · « **Reply #28 on:** May 27, 2011, 11:31:59 AM »

Quote from: benniejordaan on May 27, 2011, 10:18:22 AM

Hey Jaen, how come you and your boet never fish together??

We do, occasionally. But he is a lot more into the billfish and I like the gamefish. But we had a chat the other day and thinking of fishing together a bit more now since I have a proper boat

sea sick · « **Reply #29 on:** May 27, 2011, 08:04:48 PM »

guys

when trolling, should your rods stand upright or as low down as possible?

ss

CLS · « **Reply #30 on:** May 27, 2011, 08:07:52 PM »

I like to get mine as low as possible

John F · « **Reply #31 on:** May 27, 2011, 08:53:56 PM »

It depends on the lures and the conditions... some lures "like" a small angle of entry = low rod... for others you need to put your rod up (or use outriggers) to get you lures to be a bit more aggressive... you have to feel it and adjust according to the conditions at hand...

sea sick · « **Reply #32 on:** May 27, 2011, 09:31:26 PM »

so, if i was to troll 2 x-raps, i might start off with 1 rod low and the other1 high.

Ss

John F · « **Reply #33 on:** May 27, 2011, 09:36:16 PM »

If you are trolling x-raps (which are deep divers and put a lot of pressure on the rod), and if you have 25-30 lb setups I would suggest you run both rods low... just put one lure 5-8 m ahead of the other....

sea sick · « **Reply #34 on:** May 27, 2011, 09:42:24 PM »

john,

I have two shimano talevera rods 6,6, 20-50 pound.
Two grandwave40 reels filled with kfga 0.40, think 25pound.

So they should do the trick, it's just getting the fish onn dad.

Ss

John F · « **Reply #35 on:** May 27, 2011, 09:48:23 PM »

With that you can go either low/high it will depend on sea conditions....but x-raps usually troll true even in rough seas...

sea sick · « **Reply #36 on:** May 27, 2011, 09:52:24 PM »

john,
When setting up a lure and it needs to be tweaked, to run true, what would you look for, to see that it needs adjustment, what would the adjustment be?

Ss

John F · « **Reply #37 on:** May 28, 2011, 09:02:28 AM »

Some brands like Rapala (in my experience) are almost guaranteed that they will run true... not need for adjustments even after fighting a few dozens of fish...

Others, well they need some TLC.... you must get a set of good and strong pointed pliers... depending on the movement of the lure (left or right) you have to tweak the attaching wire on the lure towards the opposite side it is swimming.... do it less than 1 mm at a time... you don't want to over compensate... try again and adjust till it swims right...

I find that in some lures, going down on the leader (thinner leader) will also help... also if it gets to difficult (or even to take the lures deeper) use a sinker (like the one's for slow trolling/drifting for cuta) 1-1.5 m a head of the lure...

I'm an impatient man so if by the 3rd time the lure doesn't swim right it goes into the bucket... get a new one.... and I adjust them later... you don't want to loose time when the bite is hot!

Capt. Hook · « **Reply #38 on:** May 28, 2011, 03:09:06 PM »

Quote from: sea sick on May 27, 2011, 08:04:48 PM

guys

when trolling, should your rods stand upright or as low down as possible?

ss

Read my articles, it is all there.

Lipped lures like Rapala's etc, the rods should be low down
Feathers, Kona's the rods should stand high

http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,421.0.html

http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,1379.0.html

http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,2959.0.html

sea sick · « **Reply #39 on:** May 28, 2011, 10:50:14 PM »

john,
Thanks

Fa,
I have read them, one needs to understand, when to do what.
New ball game.

I got some no 4 piano wire.
The stuff is thin.
You guys sure they won't be bitten through?

Ss