Author Topic: Vidal - My game plan for March 2011 (Read 16091 times)

jaenswart · « **on:** February 09, 2011, 07:51:02 AM »

ok ok , some of you might remember that I mentioned about my red head challenge last year.
Last night I started packing my lures and I knew the only way I was gonna honor that commitment was not to pack anything but my red heads.

Another thing I'm gonna experiment with for the very first time is using NO wire on my couta leaders, that is only wire on the hooks. We'll see how that goes.
I did extensive research on the topic and everywhere else in the world the guys are not using it.

Lastly on my 4kg rods I'm going back to single threaded through the bait.

On my heavier 8kg outfits I'm gonna stick with 1 single and 1 treble traces.

As we all know how wire shy couta is, I thought to give this a try with the chance of losing some fish in the process.

super_daav · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2011, 08:00:05 AM »

Jaen,

i havent heard about your red head challenge? Good luck on the traces! hugely excited to hear feed back on this as i have been toying witht the idea but havent crossed over from the dark side yet...

jaenswart · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2011, 08:02:36 AM »

check it out http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,2031.msg19507.html#msg19507

Prego · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2011, 08:43:18 AM »

Jean I agree with you on your thoughts on light tackle because I to like to battle with whats on the end of the line instead of just winching it in but now wire?!?! you are really pushing the envelope!!!

mate & let us now how it goes.

Keen to see the results of the red head challenge.

jaenswart · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2011, 08:56:42 AM »

Quote from: Prego on February 09, 2011, 08:43:18 AM

Jean I agree with you on your thoughts on light tackle because I to like to battle with whats on the end of the line instead of just winching it in but now wire?!?! you are really pushing the envelope!!!

mate & let us now how it goes.

Keen to see the results of the red head challenge.

Prego,

Maybe I am. But if you think about the way a couta hits the bait, and when you think about where you hook it 95% of the time, I believe it is do-able.

In Australia and even in mexico and florida they use light fluoro leader straigh onto the hooks. Their hook traces consist of 3 or 4 hooks ganged into each other.

I recon of there is NO wire in front of my squid or duster I may have plenty more strikes.

Regarding the business end (hooks) it will still have the wire, just threaded through the bait (IGFA single hook style).

It's an experiment...but think about it ? I have been whipping for couta with spoons all my life..and I never put wire on any spoon. I can count on 1 hand the total amount of spoons I have lost with bite-offs.

Let see what happens....I'm not leaving my wire traces at home for this one

jaenswart · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2011, 08:58:18 AM »

Quote from: Prego on February 09, 2011, 08:43:18 AM

Jean I agree with you on your thoughts on light tackle because I to like to battle with whats on the end of the line instead of just winching it in but now wire?!?! you are really pushing the envelope!!!

mate & let us now how it goes.

Keen to see the results of the red head challenge.

the very first time I started fishing for sails on 6kg and 4kg I was also pushing it

Now I won't have it any other way

Without experiments nothing will ever change

Prego · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2011, 09:10:12 AM »

I like that guys like yourself experiment so that novices like myself can learn. Needless to say I am a liitle reluctant about the no wire experiment is because I got a hiding over December losing lots of traces that were biten off

.

The key word here is NOVICE.

So this guy here

remains my nemesis

jaenswart · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2011, 09:13:18 AM »

Quote from: Prego on February 09, 2011, 09:10:12 AM

I like that guys like yourself experiment so that novices like myself can learn. Needless to say I am a liitle reluctant about the no wire experiment is because I got a hiding over December losing lots of traces that were biten off .

The key word here is NOVICE.

So this guy here remains my nemesis

Sounds like at least you got strikes

obviously the way you fish dictates the traces you use.
Fish hit lures and bait different depending on drifting or trolling and trolling speed and direction.

Did you get bite-offs on those traces I made for you?

Prego · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2011, 10:59:44 AM »

On some of yours, I was on a slow troll and I think we stopped to quickly giving the fish time to come up the line.

Novice error = school fees

I even had live bait with singles on wire on the surface that got bitten off with no line been taken, boy was I confused.

jaenswart · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2011, 11:38:09 AM »

Quote from: Prego on February 09, 2011, 10:59:44 AM

On some of yours, I was on a slow troll and I think we stopped to quickly giving the fish time to come up the line.

Novice error = school fees

I even had live bait with singles on wire on the surface that got bitten off with no line been taken, boy was I confused.

Shucks bad luck...wonder if there wasn't a wahoo or 2 around?

Prego · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2011, 11:48:46 AM »

Quote from: jaenswart on February 09, 2011, 11:38:09 AM

Shucks bad luck...wonder if there wasn't a wahoo or 2 around?

In 25m of water I doubt it but you never can tell, crazier things have happened.

from the shore

jaenswart · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2011, 11:53:50 AM »

Quote from: Prego on February 09, 2011, 11:48:46 AM

In 25m of water I doubt it but you never can tell, crazier things have happened.

from the shore

did the bite-offs occur on the hook lines or the wire leader? and if so how far from the single hook? (vital info for my new experiment

)

benniejordaan · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2011, 01:23:38 PM »

If you target sails on 6kg line, what are you targeting on 15kg line?

jaenswart · « **Reply #13 on:** February 09, 2011, 01:25:26 PM »

Quote from: benniejordaan on February 09, 2011, 01:23:38 PM

If you target sails on 6kg line, what are you targeting on 15kg line?

Striped Marlin and small blues

benniejordaan · « **Reply #14 on:** February 09, 2011, 01:29:17 PM »

I hope you ordered a few extra spools of line... Just in case!

jaenswart · « **Reply #15 on:** February 09, 2011, 01:31:13 PM »

Quote from: benniejordaan on February 09, 2011, 01:29:17 PM

I hope you ordered a few extra spools of line... Just in case!

I did

And it's not a game for sissies. But I bet I'm gonna pull my hair out if something half decent jumps on the line...

Prego · « **Reply #16 on:** February 09, 2011, 01:50:06 PM »

Quote from: jaenswart on February 09, 2011, 11:53:50 AM

did the bite-offs occur on the hook lines or the wire leader? and if so how far from the single hook? (vital info for my new experiment )

Bitten off at the nylon(like I said I think we stopped the boat to quickly) which enabled the fish to come up the line quicker than I could reel in line.

jaenswart · « **Reply #17 on:** February 09, 2011, 06:25:19 PM »

Quote from: Prego on February 09, 2011, 01:50:06 PM

Bitten off at the nylon(like I said I think we stopped the boat to quickly) which enabled the fish to come up the line quicker than I could reel in line.

LOL, You know what most probably happened...has happened to me hundreds of times. It not the actual fish taking your bait that is biting you off, that's highly unlikely. But with rats around (shoal couta) you get one going for the bait and another for your swivel.

I'm sure this is what happened.

jaenswart · « **Reply #18 on:** February 14, 2011, 07:59:29 AM »

update: I spooled 8 reels (4 tld 15's, 2 tls 10's and 2 50h's) yesterday morning...my right hand bicep is now 2 times bigger than before

Also made 45 double hook stiff rigs (pro rigs) complete...and about 60 which is incomplete as I need more heat shrink and more ss sailfish hooks.

Reports are that a couple of fish is coming out but nothing spectacular..

Only booked from 1st March at Vidal...I'm leaving 25th Feb...need some place to stay in St Lucia from Saturday...

Rory mundy · « **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2011, 07:33:12 PM »

i have a place that i rent out in st lucia if you interested