Spoon Action

[philter]

I know that everybody says that there is no such thing as a stupid question, but this is one that makes me feel a bit dof.           


I've got a week booked in St Lucia in October and have been sorting out my spinning gear, and have been changing all of my treble hooks for singles, yesterday I suddenly realized that I wasn't sure which way round a spoon swims, logically a v-back spoon should swim with the v facing downwards as the 2 sides of the v should give greater resistance to sinking, but is the same true for a s-bend spoon or does the bend create a different set of circumstances.


Any help would be greatly appreciated, does my logic stand up, would any spoon swim with the longest side down, would a half round spoon swim with the half round down with the hook facing towards the flat side.


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[chrisquinton]

Some spoons are obvious. Some have a big wobble which causes them to flip from one side to the other. Some just spin.
The only way to find out is to test it. If you have a big enough pool or access to clear water somewhere, take a spoon and colour one side (stick on some black insulation tape). Check how it behaves at different speeds. Each spoon type will behave "correcty" as a certain retrieve speed.

The bullet spoons are basically designed for high speed retrieves with relatively little action (and thus less "noise").
S-bend spoons are medium to slow speed retrieves with a lot more action (side to side kicking, wobbling etc and this mote "noise").
The flat toby type of spoons are designed for slow retrieve speeds, with a side to side wobble.

You will be able to feel the kick or wobble in the spoon whilst you are retrieving, so you will have an Idea what the spoon is doing but it is nice to check it out in still, clear water. it often eliminates the bum ones quickly...

[jball7204]

Ja best to swim them first. But basically on a spoon that only has sides (bullet) the hook will face one of the sides. On a spoon that has a top and bottom (v's and s/v's) the hook point must be facing the top. The thickest part of the spoon should be on the bottom whilst swimming so therefore the flat part is the top. If that all makes sense....

[Plugger]

I change all my trebles for singles, some are sideways some up some down. The reason for not using trebles (for me) is very much less hook ups on rocks, and a much easier removal of the hook from the fish.Its not easy to determine which way the spoon or lure swims even in the pool (no waves, current). i love fishing over rocks/reefs but I don't lose as many spoons as I used to with trebles. my 2c.

[m4kes]

Replaced all mine with singles as well, works better.

[philter]

Thanks for the answers gents, guess the best way is to swim them and see what they do in the water.
@Plugger, if I've read your comments properly then it doesn't really matter, so maybe I'm just worring about nothing


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[Plugger]

I dont stress about it to much, I think the spoon turns on the retrieve anyway and it seems to work for me. There is a stick bait at Basil Manning called a flanker which we have been getting a lot of Shad on (I like the Olive green). Change the treble and the split ring if you buy them. 18.5 gram for 89.95. My sons also use them on the jet and paddle skis for Snoek.