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General Angling Topics => Saltwater Lure Angling => Topic started by: Rods on March 14, 2012, 02:00:46 PM
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Over december a friend from Australia gave me 2 spools of Berkley Nanofil. They are both 10 pound line and are 175yds. I have 2 questions : 1. Which reel would this be better suited to, I have a 2500, a 3000 and a 4000 sized reels; and secondly, should I join the 2 spools together or use just one with a suitable backing. If I must join, which knot would be preferable?
I have heard all the comments about how this line is very particular about the knots which it likes so this prob means some seriouuuus knot practise in store for me.
Thanks guys
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hi rods
I can comment on knots . But you should be able to spool any size reel you mentioned . I would however lean towards a 2500 or 3000 . I know the nanofil are really thin in Diameter . MY personal opinion is that should you spool up a bigger size reel , use a bit of old mono for 'backing' its really unlikely that you will need more that 175 yards on a small spinning reel .
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Rods, Lenny's advice is good. With the 10lb, go with the smaller reels.
Bit of advice here on using Nanofil... I have found it the most frustrating stuff to join a leader to. So frustrating in fact, that on my last trip, after losing a few expensive lures, I got gatvol and gave up using a leader - tied the Nanofil directly to my terminal trace/lure. Worked well for a while and then it started snapping mid cast. My Nanofil has since been retired to the bin.
Berkley's recommended knots...
Terminal tackle
(http://www.berkley-fishing.com/sites/default/files/nanoFil_knot_2b.jpg)
Leader connection:
(http://www.berkley-fishing.com/sites/default/files/nanoFil_A-knot_2b.jpg)
But I found that even this Double Albright slipped... very, very difficult stuff to knot.
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Reefz
Would you recommend NOT buying nanofil? I am about to change some of my jigman to nanofil......or should nanofil stay in the dustbin?
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Hi fellow Anglers
I have followed site for a number of months and am really impressed with the wealth of knowledge that is freely shared by members.
Braids and other lines (Nanofil is not a braid) have specific applications. Having said this I am an avid shore based angler that “spins” for game fish a couple of times a week and have found Nanofil to be the best suited line for this purpose. It has very little “memory” and coupled with a decent rod and reel throws spoons / lures a mile. I generally fish with metal lures (spoons) that weigh between 40 and 50 grams and use the 12lb Nanofil. I am pretty sure that the 12lb Nanofil breaks at a much heavier weight and find it comparable to braids in the 20lb class.
The recommended knots may be a little tricky to tie but once you have tied a couple, these are easy. I always use a fluorocarbon leader (and sometimes a braid leader, then fluorocarbon) and never tie the Nanofil directly onto the lure.
The only criticism that I have of Nanofil is that the first few meters become frayed after a few outings. The pamphlet that accompanies the product recommends that you regularly check the first few meters of line. Even when slightly frayed the Nanofil is still incredibly strong.
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Reefz
Would you recommend NOT buying nanofil? I am about to change some of my jigman to nanofil......or should nanofil stay in the dustbin?
Ziggy, as you have read, Nanofil is a revolutionary product that casts extremely well. Works for some people... I really persevered with mine, trying all sorts of different knots to tie a leader on. I must add that I was throwing 3-4oz lures... perhaps that's where my problem lies?
I know Fritz also fished with it and eventually binned his as well. But again the great thing about fishing is that what works for you, may not necessarily work for me...
The next braid I want to try out is the new Sufix 832, which has a Gore fibre in it that apparently changes the abrasion resistance quite dramatically. Has been getting rave reviews.
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PS... How rude of me....! Lucky Hook... :welc:
Looking forward to learning some more from your experience!
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:welc: Lucky Hook,
Dispite all the negatives I have had to say about the Nany Line I will be the first to say that it is in my opinion the best line that I have fished with. That is if you have done the knots the corect way so that you dont toss your prized spoon half way to Aus.
I have been fishing with Jigman for some time now and out of pure frustration and loosing some nice fish took the Nany line of and replaced it with my trusted Jigman. And now I am happy again. Maybe I should have spent more time learning how to tie the knots?
When I got my Nanyline I was told that it was 30lb and was bragging to Tony that I had managed to put my hands on 30lb line and he said he would come back to me about that statement. Lets just say that I could not brag about my 30lb any longer.
The story is that it is marked as 12lb because of some Pommy regulation but in fact breaks at about 24lb. ( Tony correct me if I am whrong please) So thats the reason Nany 12lb feels so strong.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. Will give it a go on my 3000 reel. Must just look for a spare spool for my reel. Would hate to take off my Spiderwire only to find I'm not happy with the Nanofil.
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Rods,
Nanofil is top class, dont stress....just make sure that you use it for the right application....I use it for light tackle spinning or bait fishing...Good for casting when you need the distance, also the balance of your outfit needs to be suited for the application.
To join a leader I use a modified double albright, just at the end where you have doubled back and you then loop the loop if that makes sense, I do it about four times to end it off....And that works for me.......
Good luck bud
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Hey Guys ...
CATSA .. thanks for your feedback ....
Anyone else use Nanofil ?
I am off to fish soon and was considering trying this ...
Honestly dont want to spend an arm or leg and perhaps be disappointed...
Want to using it on my spinning set-up ...
Anyone know pricing ???
Thanks
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Hi there
I have been using nano for about 3 months now and have found it to be brilliant for light tackle spinning. I also found that the knots were tricky at first, I now tie about 6 m of 30 lb jig man in front of the nano this prevents the nano from freying I join this using Bimini twist on both nano and jig man and join them with the catspore knot. I then use a Fluro leader which I attach to the jig man with an improved Albright knot. I then strengthen each knot using uv knot sense glue. I have been so impressed with the casting ability and strength of nano and will definitely recommend it.
Tight lines
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:welc: Farmervr.... :tkx: ....
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Rods , have a look at the Gator range of braids as well , comes in 3 variations (1)Bully braid (2) Gatorbraid 4 weave(carrier) and 8 weave(carrier) the 8 weave is a casting braid .
Kingfisher in Durbz stocks them , these pics are courtsey of www.kingfisher.co.za (http://www.kingfisher.co.za).
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Thanks Mike. I actually have the Nanofil. Was given it as a gift :hnthnt: . 10lb should do on a 2500 size reel?
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Hi rods
That is great for 2500-4000 as the 10lb nano breaks at about 22lbs the same nano size is sold in Europe as 10kg strain I would suggest filling the reel with some backing first as due to the low diameter of the nano it will be short. You will also notice that u get no wind knots with nano.
Tight lines
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Thanks Farmervr, What line would you suggest as backing?
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Hi rods
I use Berkley whiplash 20lb. But you could use any spare 20lb braid you have lying around. I would say that you use braid in case u hook a real bus and it goes into the backing.
Thanks
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Thanks a million. :udman:
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Thanks Guys for all the replies , pm's and calls ....
I have decided to give nanofil a miss for now ...and that's based on my personal choice ...
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Well I've bought my backing and going to fill my reel this weekend. Thanks guys.
Off topic a bit. Was watching the Gadget show on Soweto tv and they were covering the Huawei promotion. Saw a chappie there who looked suspiciously like you Kumz. ???
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Yes i was there .... LOL... u got me ... hahahahahaa
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Thort so my bru.
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was it the part when i was on stage with 3 other people ???
i mus chk for a re run ... LOL
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Actually you were sitting next to a lady. Looked like you trying to sneak a peak at her cleavage?? :dunno:
Thats how I knew it was you.
:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
Kidding bro
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Actually you were sitting next to a lady. Looked like you trying to sneak a peak at her cleavage?? :dunno:
Thats how I knew it was you.
:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl
Kidding bro
:corrct: def had to be me .... :clwn ..... :lolo:
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Wahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!
Busted on National TV !
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Wahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!
Busted on National TV !
:resp:
Eeiiissshhhh :cnfzd ...... n i thought i was safe ??? :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
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Finally got my reel loaded with the Nanofil. First put on some braid backing and joined the Nanofil to that using B2B Bimini's joined with a Catspaw. First time actually trying this and got it right. (THANKS REEFS). Now I'm ready for my trip to the Transkei next week.
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Just hoping I havent over-filled the reel there.
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Looking good Rods.... ! :tite
Make sure you Practice some leader knots on the Nanofil to see which one works for you...
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question? if you double the nano and do back to back uni knots with say 10 wraps on the nano side and five on the leader side and finish with a touch of super glue on the nano would this not prevent the knot from slipping.
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question? if you double the nano and do back to back uni knots with say 10 wraps on the nano side and five on the leader side and finish with a touch of super glue on the nano would this not prevent the knot from slipping.
Ya we've tried many knots with this stuff. Very tricky.... we discussed it on this thread... http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,7372.msg107810.html#msg107810 (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,7372.msg107810.html#msg107810)
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Rods,
Nanofil is top class, dont stress....just make sure that you use it for the right application....I use it for light tackle spinning or bait fishing...Good for casting when you need the distance, also the balance of your outfit needs to be suited for the application.
To join a leader I use a modified double albright, just at the end where you have doubled back and you then loop the loop if that makes sense, I do it about four times to end it off....And that works for me.......
Good luck bud
Trying to make sense of what Wes is saying here. Help....somebody.....anybody :dunno:
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Think this is what he means...??? Dunno tho?
(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10163.0;attach=65067;image)
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Reefs just had a look at the knot you advised on in the thread above. The 15 turn Uni on the braid and the 3 turn figure 8 on the leader. Did it hold sufficiently for you?
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Yes that worked the best for me. But you need to keep your fishing with Nanofil as ultra-light to light tackle fishing. Don't go over 1.5-2oz weights with it.
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Yes that worked the best for me. But you need to keep your fishing with Nanofil as ultra-light to light tackle fishing. Don't go over 1.5-2oz weights with it.
Thanks Reefs. That is the plan. Will be using it for my small Iron Candy's and drop shot. Taking my Symetre with 20lb braid for the slightly heavier stuff.
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Hi Rods - I hope this is just an optical illusion but when I look at your reel spooled it "appears" that the taper is broader at the top. The narrow taper of the cone should be at the top. Some of the reels come with additional washers for this purpose. Maybe Reefman could comment on this further?
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This has been an ongoing problem with the Exceler's as far back as I can remember. Ziggy had one that was so badly out and had to be replaced. My Exceler 4000E was great, but my new Exceler Z series does not lay the line down properly. Unfortunately the Exceler's don't come with extra spacer washers, so one needs to improvise... :cnfzd
Had to use a Rivet washer on mine, which is about 4x the thickness of the original spacers, but still doesn't get the angle satisfactory.
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Get a Stradic :crzy
:cg:
:shmno:
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Rods,
Nanofil is top class, dont stress....just make sure that you use it for the right application....I use it for light tackle spinning or bait fishing...Good for casting when you need the distance, also the balance of your outfit needs to be suited for the application.
To join a leader I use a modified double albright, just at the end where you have doubled back and you then loop the loop if that makes sense, I do it about four times to end it off....And that works for me.......
Good luck bud
Wesley, help me here please. All my searches for the modified albright have come up with the same knot as the normal albright. By your description above, you are doing something clever with the tag end of the braid. Can you either describe it in detail or post a series of pics or a vid please. Sorry if I'm just a bit thick.
Another point, how well does the bimini work in nanofil?
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Rods,
Nanofil is top class, dont stress....just make sure that you use it for the right application....I use it for light tackle spinning or bait fishing...Good for casting when you need the distance, also the balance of your outfit needs to be suited for the application.
To join a leader I use a modified double albright, just at the end where you have doubled back and you then loop the loop if that makes sense, I do it about four times to end it off....And that works for me.......
Good luck bud
Wesley, help me here please. All my searches for the modified albright have come up with the same knot as the normal albright. By your description above, you are doing something clever with the tag end of the braid. Can you either describe it in detail or post a series of pics or a vid please. Sorry if I'm just a bit thick.
Another point, how well does the bimini work in nanofil?
See post number 34 on this thread for the way they do the Albright in Nanofil...
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Thanks mate. Makes sense now.