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Title: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: Fritz on December 09, 2010, 09:32:20 PM
As promised, here is how you make your own wire rings for your spoon instead of using split rings.

Firstly for this demo I used some red coated wire to make it easier to see and understand what is going on.

When I attach my hooks and swivels to my spoons I use #4 or #5 American fishing wire. For the guys that have not done this use some #4 untill you get used to it. It is much easier to work with.

Photo 1

You start of by making a Granny knot in a length of wire. This should have been the very first knot you learned when you started tieing your own shoes.
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Post by: Fritz on December 09, 2010, 09:39:13 PM
Now with the crossed end of the ring facing you, take the tag on the right hand side and insurt it into the ring from the bottom. ( photo 2) and do the same with the tag on the left. But this time only from the top of the ring.( photo 3 )
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Post by: Fritz on December 09, 2010, 09:48:53 PM
Now if you look at photo 3 you will notice the tag ends crossing each other with the right hand side tag crossing over the left hand one.

Swop the two around so that left goes over right as in photo 4.

Now carry on with putting the tags ends in to the ring one more time. The ring should look something like photo 5
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Post by: Fritz on December 09, 2010, 09:56:13 PM
Carry on with this untill you get back to where the wires are crossing each other. photo 6 Now remember to put the right hand tag under the left one before you proceed.

Repeat this proces untill the desired thickness off ring has been reached.

At this stage you can see that the ring is now starting to look like something.
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Post by: Fritz on December 09, 2010, 10:04:41 PM
To tie this ring off neatly. you start of by bending one of your tag ends away from the ring as shown it photo 7. Bring the tag end back in thru the ring to start binding it up. photo 8. Carry on with this untill you have gone around the ring 4-6 times. As you can see in photo 9
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Post by: Fritz on December 09, 2010, 10:27:29 PM
Clip the tag end of and press the sharp end down so that it does not get stuck an anything. photo 10 I have tried to do a Hay wire twist to finish finish it of and have failed. Thats the reason I clip it of using a pliers.
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Post by: Fritz on December 09, 2010, 10:37:29 PM
Now going right back to photo 1. where you started the ring. Pull the ring closed untill you reached the desired ring size and hold as I have in photo 11. Keep your hand in this posision untill you have managed to put each tag end thru the ring once. If you loos the tension at this stage you will end up with a untidy ring. Photo 12 Remember to put one tag end under the other one before crossing each other
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Post by: Fritz on December 09, 2010, 10:48:07 PM
Once you have reached the desired thicknes on your ring ( 5-6 turns ) it should look something like this one in photo 13. Now you can start to finish of each tag end photo 14. and at the end of this exersize it should look something like photo 15

To give you an idea of how small the ring is. I was using a size 6/0 Gamakatsu Octopus hook.
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Post by: Fritz on December 09, 2010, 10:53:32 PM
Hope this has made some  sence for you and is clear anough to understand.
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons.
Post by: Cam Mundy on December 10, 2010, 06:54:10 AM
I do the same with Nylon coated trace and then fuse it together with a lighter instead of ending it with twists, although that's only on the really small spoons I hunt Shad an wave Garrick with. on the bigger spoons I stick to the same technique as you.
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons.
Post by: Half-Pint on December 10, 2010, 07:28:29 AM
Awesome post Fritz my rings look like thee dogs breakfast and the ends are so sharp that sometimes I think I could leave the hook off (hit)
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Post by: REEFMAN on December 10, 2010, 07:39:23 AM
Excellent tut Fritz!! Cred to you!
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Post by: Andre Laas on December 10, 2010, 07:42:08 AM
Cred to you Fritz!
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: Fritz on December 10, 2010, 11:58:40 AM
Thanks guys.

@ Must - Byte

Once you cliped the tag ends of, you must use a small long nose pliers to pinch the sharp ends down. Works like a charm.
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: benniejordaan on December 12, 2010, 09:26:10 PM
You too Cleva! Nice one!
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Post by: Quickbite on December 13, 2010, 09:40:02 AM
Thanks for this Fritz - much appreicated.
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Post by: John F on December 13, 2010, 09:44:06 AM
Great tutorial Fritz! Cred to you!
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Post by: Craigr on December 14, 2010, 02:53:40 PM
Thanks Fritz. Now I know why my loops look so crap.
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: PH on July 01, 2011, 07:15:44 AM
Thanks Fritz and Reefz.
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Post by: Kumz on July 01, 2011, 07:36:21 AM
 :shre:  Uncle ...  :win: ...+cred
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Post by: L Hooker on July 01, 2011, 07:37:16 AM
Aaah very neat, thanks Fritz
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Post by: strandloper on July 01, 2011, 07:53:30 AM
Great Tut Fritz,
 
Cred to you.
 
I use this on all my spoons, but go up to No 6 wire on my heavy "Sardine run" spoons. It might be overkill and slightly more difficult to work, but it gives me the confidence that even if one strand gets chinked it should stay in tact.
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: Fritz on July 01, 2011, 08:07:26 AM
Great Tut Fritz,
 
Cred to you.
 
I use this on all my spoons, but go up to No 6 wire on my heavy "Sardine run" spoons. It might be overkill and slightly more difficult to work, but it gives me the confidence that even if one strand gets chinked it should stay in tact.

I doubt very much that you would snap on of the strands when using the thinner wire. The only drawback I have found is that the ring will bend out of shope if a bigger fish gets hold of your spoon. One can overcome this by either putting more turns around with the thinner wire or by using the no.6 wire on the bigger spoons.
It is just much easier to learn this with the thinner wire .
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: shamwari on September 25, 2011, 09:40:02 PM
Fritz or anyone.... I am okay doing the ring but the final binding am failing badly - just seem to end up with holes on my fingers - is there a secret to doing it - how long are the little tag ends that you try to put through the eye etc.
 
many thanks.
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: REEFMAN on September 26, 2011, 07:36:57 AM
Bruce, I find that you need to have fairly long tag ends with which to do the wraps at the end. Short tag ends are very difficult to wrap ---> pierced fingers! I keep the tag ends at least 3 inches long...
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: Fritz on September 26, 2011, 08:18:13 AM
I actually made a reply for this and lost it between my finger and my phone. Bruce Tony is right keep you tag end long so that it is easier to work with and when you start the wraps keep them as tight as you can. ( binding ). Once you have reached the desired length just clip it of with side cutters and pinch the sharp end down with a small long nose pliers.
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: shamwari on September 26, 2011, 03:57:57 PM
many thanks guys - much appreciated - seem to have it going now - with practise hopefully will get them nice and neat.
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: hrogers on November 16, 2011, 03:03:03 PM
This is good info !!  :shre:
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: Denis on April 25, 2020, 04:52:31 PM
Normal split-washers ( used to lock nuts and bolts ) work great... being constructed of spring steel, they won't rust that quickly (rinse off along with your other tackle.)..[size=78%]..when rusted badly, simply replace.Cheap, quick and simple )[/size]
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: Denis on April 25, 2020, 05:33:13 PM
PS : use common sense...ie don' t overstretch the washer and use the appropriate size and thickness/strength.
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: REEFMAN on April 25, 2020, 05:57:04 PM
Sometimes split rings just won't fit, especially when there is no steel ring attached to the lure. That's when we use the home-made wire ring...

(http://www.africanaquatics.co.za/FISHING/Fishing%20stuff/lures/wire%20rings%202.jpg)



Attaching to lures.... https://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=7491.0
Title: Re: Wire rings for spoons
Post by: Denis on June 19, 2020, 04:49:28 PM
If the hole is too small and conditions allow, I simply drill the hole larger, so as to allow the split washer to fit.
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