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Title: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: m4kes on April 29, 2014, 06:11:19 PM
Which hooks can i use to replace worn/rusted hooks on Rapala X-Rap Walk, Flutterstick etc...
Rusted because of inactivity (been working away). Ready to get them working again.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: jball7204 on April 29, 2014, 07:09:12 PM
OWNER hooks in the black chrome finish of the same size? Or maybe inline stainless singles like the DECOY? The decoys are better for hard fighting fish as those hooks dont straighten or bend and break easily. You do get slightly less chance of a hookup, but its usually solid when you do.

That hook at the back of the WALK is a thing of beauty.

Does anyone else know where to get those specific hooks?
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: m4kes on April 29, 2014, 10:39:36 PM
I thought of changing to those inline hooks, but am concerned about how it will affect the X-Rap's walking action.
I have looked around & can't find those exact same hooks.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on April 30, 2014, 08:55:13 AM
The decoys dont affect its action. I have changed a lot of my surface and swimming lures.

I have found that only on very small poppers, the action is sometimes affected, but even then, not by much. If a small popper has some flash or hackle tied to the trailing trebble, tie something on as the lack of drag on this trailing hook affects the lure action in some lures.

Make sure you use the correct size hooks as well.

I would not use decoys on Iron candy spoons. The hook must lie in the opposing plane to that spoon..

Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on April 30, 2014, 09:04:14 AM
OWNER hooks in the black chrome finish of the same size? Or maybe inline stainless singles like the DECOY? The decoys are better for hard fighting fish as those hooks dont straighten or bend and break easily. You do get slightly less chance of a hookup, but its usually solid when you do.

That hook at the back of the WALK is a thing of beauty.

Does anyone else know where to get those specific hooks?

JBall, you get them FREE when you buy another Rapala!
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on April 30, 2014, 10:08:22 AM
If you can find a stockist, the hook JBall is referring to is a VMC 5536 Sure Set Trebble.
(You get one FREE with each Rapala you buy)!!!


Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: Poenskop on April 30, 2014, 11:00:44 AM
OWNER hooks in the black chrome finish of the same size? Or maybe inline stainless singles like the DECOY? The decoys are better for hard fighting fish as those hooks dont straighten or bend and break easily. You do get slightly less chance of a hookup, but its usually solid when you do.

That hook at the back of the WALK is a thing of beauty.

Does anyone else know where to get those specific hooks?

Are you talking about this one?
http://www.basilmanning.co.za/hooks/trebles/vmc-8536bn-scorpic.html (http://www.basilmanning.co.za/hooks/trebles/vmc-8536bn-scorpic.html)
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on April 30, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
looks like the same thing. Rapala use the VMC 5536
check the rapala website:
http://www.rapala.com/vmc/hooks/treble/5536-dressed-suresetandreg-treble/5536+Dressed+SureSet+Treble.html (http://www.rapala.com/vmc/hooks/treble/5536-dressed-suresetandreg-treble/5536+Dressed+SureSet+Treble.html)
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: Poenskop on April 30, 2014, 12:53:58 PM
looks like the same thing. Rapala use the VMC 5536
check the rapala website:
http://www.rapala.com/vmc/hooks/treble/5536-dressed-suresetandreg-treble/5536+Dressed+SureSet+Treble.html (http://www.rapala.com/vmc/hooks/treble/5536-dressed-suresetandreg-treble/5536+Dressed+SureSet+Treble.html)

The only difference I can see is the addition of the feather.  A bit on the expensive side though.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on April 30, 2014, 01:13:31 PM
no, the vmc hooks both exist, both undressed, with 5536 and 8536 codes.
I cant find the difference. It might be the wire type.
either way, BM got the correk thing. Decoys are just as expensive, but a lot less destructive. Ill rather sacrifice a few come-offs and use the decoys.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: Poenskop on April 30, 2014, 01:31:42 PM
I am with you on Single vs Trebles. I still think the trebles is the only way to go on the small minnow type lures.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on April 30, 2014, 01:39:44 PM
this is the way to go:
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2cmxmye.jpg)
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: Prego on April 30, 2014, 02:41:37 PM
this is the way to go:
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2cmxmye.jpg)

 :corrct: I like
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: m4kes on May 01, 2014, 08:25:17 AM
Thanks chrisquinton for the advise. What size decoys would you advise for replacement on the Rapala's?
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on May 01, 2014, 09:40:16 PM
depends on the size of rap.
tell me what sizes you wanting to change hooks on which type lures..
then, depending on the lure, sometimes I will change the splitring as well. if you invest in hooks and splitrings, might as well look after them if you leave them unused for some time. I make a habit of rinsing every lure I fish with immediately after use, and give a Q20 spray every 2 months, or else immediately on packing away if you dont plan to use them in the next few weeks.

Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 01, 2014, 09:45:22 PM
As a guideline , the hooks that u replace on the lures should be +/-  a third of the size of the lure , pity Decoy dont make smaller in -line hooks .... yet.. :cnfzd
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on May 01, 2014, 09:58:31 PM
what size are you battling with?
number 4 is small enough for the smallest lure I have.... and they make that size.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 01, 2014, 10:10:09 PM
Only found from a 1/0 and upwards at the tackle shop i go to , the smaller ones would be perfect for the smaller lure sizes.What do the VMC in-line hooks look like ..?? and what sizes do they come in , havent seen them in the shops here yet.. :dunno:   
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on May 01, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
I have bought them down to #4. thats pretty small
they make them down to #8 but havent seen #8 in shops....
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 01, 2014, 10:18:54 PM
Ok cool , thanks , i'll check the other tackle shops as well and  speak to the head honcho at the one i usually go to , and see if he can get some for stock (me).. :hyst:
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on May 01, 2014, 10:22:31 PM
we were discussing the VMC trebble, but VMC do have an inline single (7266 Inline). I havent seen them in shops but they look smae ad secoys. (if the pic posts below)
(http://www.waveinn.com/images/products/fotos/vmc_130160.jpg)
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: Poenskop on May 02, 2014, 09:56:26 AM
@Chris

I need to try them on the 9cm Xrap Walk and subwalk. What sizes do you think will work and where do you get the small sizes? Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on May 02, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
id use 2/0 on front (belly) and 3/0 at the back.

I bought the small ones last at the Kingfisher Dbn.
you should find them online as well. they not cheap, but great quality.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: Poenskop on May 02, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
I found these on the net. Now to find a place that sells them.
http://owner-fishing.com.au/product/inline-hooks/ (http://owner-fishing.com.au/product/inline-hooks/)
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: Poenskop on May 02, 2014, 12:37:27 PM
And these gamakatsu's
http://www.anglerswarehouse.com.au/products.asp?categorynospaces=gamakatsu_single_lure_hooks_831 (http://www.anglerswarehouse.com.au/products.asp?categorynospaces=gamakatsu_single_lure_hooks_831)
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 02, 2014, 01:25:18 PM
Thanks Louie , always the issue is to find them locally , next best option is to order on -line .. :cnfzd 
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: Poenskop on May 02, 2014, 01:38:12 PM
Thanks Louie , always the issue is to find them locally , next best option is to order on -line .. :cnfzd

Ja. It is either online or the decoys locally.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: chrisquinton on May 02, 2014, 01:40:47 PM
just come to durban boys.  :hehe:
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: jball7204 on May 02, 2014, 02:36:12 PM
Ja, come throw some X-Rap Walks with us!   :fshn:
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 02, 2014, 02:56:59 PM
 :-(  wish i could but its not that easy ..
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: m4kes on May 03, 2014, 10:58:16 AM
id use 2/0 on front (belly) and 3/0 at the back.

I bought the small ones last at the Kingfisher Dbn.
you should find them online as well. they not cheap, but great quality.

Have the same 9cm X-Walks. Also some other 9cm lures i can use same on.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: fishatic on May 09, 2014, 10:29:31 PM
Also with looking at are "W" or un brazed double hooks.
You can store your lures hookless and have a selection if hooks that can be easily clipped on and off. Van Fook make some good options.
Title: Re: Replacement Hooks for Lures?
Post by: Cam Mundy on May 11, 2014, 05:47:23 PM
Owner ST66? trebles the make size #1 & #2 that will fit even the smallest lure crush the barbs if you feel guilty about using trebles just make sure you buy good split rings owner or varivas as the small size ones can get really suspect from no name brands.
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