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Title: bite trace
Post by: kevf on September 14, 2013, 06:30:35 AM
should all spoons, lures, stickbaits etc  be rigged with a bite trace? and what's a good size wire to use?
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: fishingum on September 14, 2013, 05:26:13 PM
I use a a small 15-20 cm bite trace on all in moz cause the couta are thick ,the thickness of wire depends on how/if  the lures work properly.
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: pieta on September 14, 2013, 08:15:57 PM
We use to use a piece of nc steel of aboute 30cm on our spoons. 75lb was the lightes we've got. That was on a 5oz slim catching bigg elf. Don't know what it would do to a lures action.
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: Randon on September 14, 2013, 09:16:40 PM
Its not necesary to use wire but it helps if
U hook into a couta or big snoek,if ur gna use wire

I suggest you use a wire that does not kink.
I use 35lb Knot Too Kinky wire.i
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: kevf on September 15, 2013, 05:04:05 AM
going to be throwing 1.5-3oz from the shore(spinning) would rather have the extra protection incase, but don't want to affect the action of the lure or run the risk of it putting a fish off
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: Randon on September 15, 2013, 01:20:50 PM
I use the Knot too Kinky wire,its flexible and stretches.It does not affect the action
Of my lures n stil get bites.Check out this months edition of Rock,Surf
N Deep,Rob Kyle also explains same in his Shore Game part 2 article.


Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: kevf on September 15, 2013, 04:47:12 PM
haven't got the latest one yet, will do! shot
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: garrickhunter on January 05, 2016, 11:27:16 PM
Hi guys ,got bitten off by a big snoek the other day and got myself some kinkywire now.However joining it to fluorocabon is difficcult as the albright knot does not hold.With mono i get a perfect knot.Will mono leader  be ok to use if fishing for snoek.Would like to hear from all the snoek pundits out there.
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: Haroldg on January 07, 2016, 09:07:51 PM
http://www.basilmanning.co.za/video-on-knots-28-september-2011-270.html (http://www.basilmanning.co.za/video-on-knots-28-september-2011-270.html)


Have a look at this slightly tweaked version of the albright knot....


However for the braid to mono join I would much rather use the FG knot. Have a search on this site.... there is a stack of posts on the FG knot. Well worth the effort reading them.
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: MIKE PIKE on January 07, 2016, 09:23:25 PM
kevf , ive thought of using these as a bite trace when using lures etc , just remove the springclip at the end , not the swivel and attach one of those Swanel quick release clips or the Norman clips so that you can change lures , spoons etc.  leaving the swivel on to which your leader is attached allows the lure to retain its natural action in the water , see pic below..
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: MIKE PIKE on January 07, 2016, 09:25:34 PM
Forgot to add they come in various lengths , breaking strains and they nylon coated.. :hnthnt:
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: Half-Pint on January 08, 2016, 08:07:03 AM
Mike the crimp join thingmajig on those is not strong enough at all. They break well before your nylon
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: MIKE PIKE on January 08, 2016, 10:19:22 AM
Uh ok , maybe just re-crimp them with new crimps , at this rate might as well just buy wire and diy .. :Like:
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: Half-Pint on January 08, 2016, 10:31:12 AM
Uh ok , maybe just re-crimp them with new crimps , at this rate might as well just buy wire and diy .. :Like:

Good thinking Batman :crzy
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: garrickhunter on January 08, 2016, 04:57:33 PM
Hi guys ,got bitten off by a big snoek the other day and got myself some kinkywire now.However joining it to fluorocabon is difficcult as the albright knot does not hold.With mono i get a perfect knot.Will mono leader  be ok to use if fishing for snoek.Would like to hear from all the snoek pundits out there.
Thanks a lot.Very helpful
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: garrickhunter on January 08, 2016, 05:02:36 PM
http://www.basilmanning.co.za/video-on-knots-28-september-2011-270.html (http://www.basilmanning.co.za/video-on-knots-28-september-2011-270.html)


Have a look at this slightly tweaked version of the albright knot....


However for the braid to mono join I would much rather use the FG knot. Have a search on this site.... there is a stack of posts on the FG knot. Well worth the effort reading them.
Thanks a lot .Very helpful
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: Cam Mundy on January 08, 2016, 05:19:19 PM
Mike the crimp join thingmajig on those is not strong enough at all. They break well before your nylon

Boone makes good stuff big guy if its rated at 40lb it'll be dam close to it, you do get no name brand ones that are rubbish though.
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: REEFMAN on January 09, 2016, 06:05:26 AM
Mike the crimp join thingmajig on those is not strong enough at all. They break well before your nylon

Boone makes good stuff big guy if its rated at 40lb it'll be dam close to it, you do get no name brand ones that are rubbish though.

 :corrct:
Title: Re: bite trace
Post by: colin on January 09, 2016, 08:34:46 AM

Boone makes good stuff big guy if its rated at 40lb it'll be dam close to it, you do get no name brand ones that are rubbish though.

 :corrct: but for shad :shd:, most are quite adequate. Cannot remember when last I saw one of over 2 kg. Most are so small I am surprised they even get the hook in their mouths :-(.  :toppie:
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