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Title: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 12, 2013, 09:21:17 AM
Hi guys, over the Easter weekend I am going to a mates sugar cane farm, there are 2 farm dams with bass, but there is a "wild stream" running through the property, what are the chances that this stream holds wild trout or yellows? Any one willing to take an educated guess? Or have any info on where wild trout in the midlands area occur?
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Homie on March 12, 2013, 09:23:18 AM
If its a tributary of the Mooi River then there is a possiblity !
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 12, 2013, 09:24:38 AM
Awesome, will try find out the exact location!
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: maganything on March 12, 2013, 09:31:31 AM
if it closer to the coast than say howick/nottingham road then def no trout, possibly yellows..
 
all depends on location.
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 12, 2013, 09:38:22 AM
Hmm, that could suck then, its close to Thornville, passed Maritzburg.
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Charles on March 12, 2013, 09:44:33 AM
WK Maybe yellows and possibly vlei kurpers but no trout. I may be wrong but it's up to you to prove it. :hnthnt:  Happy  :fshn:
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Lichia amia on March 12, 2013, 09:50:08 AM
Hmm, that could suck then, its close to Thornville, passed Maritzburg.

More likely to find raw sewage , rubble and informal settlement floaters  w;k w;k w;k
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: rooiwil on March 12, 2013, 09:53:43 AM
charles is right bru..... sorry no trout there....especially with sugar cane around...it only grows in warmer areas...to warm for trout! the umlaas river is close to thornville youl def find your yellows there!! :sreel:
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Homie on March 12, 2013, 09:54:43 AM
Hmm, that could suck then, its close to Thornville, passed Maritzburg.

More likely to find raw sewage , rubble and informal settlement floaters  w;k w;k w;k

Highly possible !

Those rivers can have carp, kurper and definitely some beeg Barbel !
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 12, 2013, 09:56:04 AM
Lekker!!! It does look like a big river though?
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: gavin erwin on March 12, 2013, 09:58:16 AM
Was I not invited!!! (bat
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 12, 2013, 10:00:49 AM
Was I not invited!!! (bat
Speak to Brandon  :hnthnt:
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Lichia amia on March 12, 2013, 10:01:08 AM
Was I not invited!!! (bat

Where is the Jozini report  (bat (bat (bat (bat
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: gavin erwin on March 12, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
Good point, im on it!!! :hnthnt:
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Bwana on March 12, 2013, 10:44:15 AM
WK - you might find scalies, kurper, bass and barbel in that stream. Best place for wild trout are the Mooi River, Loteni, Bushmans, and any of the small streams close to Cathedral Peak. Requires a bit of driving though....
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Lichia amia on March 12, 2013, 11:08:07 AM
Was I not invited!!! (bat
Speak to Brandon  :hnthnt:

Hide the pies  :vio
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 12, 2013, 11:16:38 AM
Thanks Bwana, how far are the closest trout waters from Thornville?

LOL Kallie
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: rooiwil on March 12, 2013, 11:19:32 AM
your only 60 km from winklespruit if the fishing aint good......... :hnthnt: ..dont go onto the freeway..the umbumbulu rd is close bye...ittl take you right to winkle.....take the big guns with!!
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Lichia amia on March 12, 2013, 11:26:21 AM
your only 60 km from winklespruit if the fishing aint good......... :hnthnt: ..dont go onto the freeway..the umbumbulu rd is close bye...ittl take you right to winkle.....take the big guns with!!

are the Diamond  :stray: still full up in Winkels ?
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: gavin erwin on March 12, 2013, 11:37:50 AM
That sound like a plan.
 :-)
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Ziggy on March 12, 2013, 11:49:29 AM
how far are the closest trout waters from Thornville?



WK - the closest for trout would be the Nottingham Road / Dargle area - then the next closest would be Underberg area. For yellows - the Richmond area apparently has yellow fish water - but access may be a problem because it would be on private land. There are yellows in the headwaters of Midmar dam (I think where the Umgeni river enters) - or so I have heard
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 12, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
Awesome thanks! What about Kamberg, they have a stretch of 6kms of trout river, not too far from where we are staying, anyone fished there?
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: rooiwil on March 12, 2013, 12:20:55 PM
 i wish bru......they are here but not full up.....even the sandies arent as full up as previous years..ive seen a couple of good size cob and even a garric shot by a spearo.....the weather last week was perfect for flatties...im sure some must have come out....umkomaas has been doing well thou .....browns are super ubundant!!
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: rooiwil on March 12, 2013, 12:56:57 PM
stay away from kkamberg boet....the hatchary has been demolished...been there recently and it sucks to say the least! rather go to highmoor..its 8km from kamberg....one of ezemvelos best trout resorts...you must book to fish there thou...only 8 rod permits per day...and two exellent lakes to fish!!
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 12, 2013, 01:24:07 PM
Thanks rooiwil will keep that in mind  :-)
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: bulldog on March 12, 2013, 04:14:35 PM
Lots of dams in the Kamberg but may struggle with river frontage because its all on private land. Phone Wildfly in Notties and find out which farms you can pay to fish on.
For rivers your best bet is the Bushmans , in the Giants castle area. At the turnoff to White mountain the river runs along the road through a rural area, where you just need to chat to the local chief for permission to fish as a matter of courtesy. Its worth the trip.
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: E.T. on March 12, 2013, 05:30:25 PM

For rivers your best bet is the Bushmans , in the Giants castle area. At the turnoff to White mountain the river runs along the road through a rural area, where you just need to chat to the local chief for permission to fish as a matter of courtesy. Its worth the trip.


I don't advise this. You do not want to be at the receiving end of a Zulu Mob on horse back, whilst fishing water in rural areas. They will take you out and if you can't speak Zulu, you are in even deeper trouble. Pay your admission fee and fish the Bushmans inside Giants Castle Reserve. At least then the only thing you need to worry about, is that your windshield wipers are covered with plastic bags in order to scare off that crow with the rubber fetish.


Do not take chances by fishing water on private land. Pay for your fishing at a reserve or lodge and enjoy what nature has to offer. If you want to get onto KZN FF Club Waters, get hold of KZN FF Club and go fish with someone thats a club member. This way you will get onto water that most people only hear off, but never get the chance to fish.
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Ziggy on March 12, 2013, 05:39:34 PM

I don't advise this. You do not want to be at the receiving end of a Zulu Mob on horse back, whilst fishing water in rural areas. They will take you out and if you can't speak Zulu, you are in even deeper trouble. Pay your admission fee and fish the Bushmans inside Giants Castle Reserve. At least then the only thing you need to worry about, is that your windshield wipers are covered with plastic bags in order to scare off that crow with the rubber fetish.


Do not take chances by fishing water on private land. Pay for your fishing at a reserve or lodge and enjoy what nature has to offer. If you want to get onto KZN FF Club Waters, get hold of KZN FF Club and go fish with someone thats a club member. This way you will get onto water that most people only hear off, but never get the chance to fish.


100% agreement here - I know of a number of victims of theft and damage to vehicles in that area - and also one person who was very threatened while fishing
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Gregf on March 12, 2013, 08:06:25 PM
 :corrct: :udman:  that has to be one of the best reply's I have seen for ages on the site. That is so much of the fun of fishing,, not knowing what will bite  :+ cred: to youCharles
WK Maybe yellows and possibly vlei kurpers but no trout. I may be wrong but it's up to you to prove it. :hnthnt:  Happy  :fshn:
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 13, 2013, 08:03:35 AM
Thanks so much for the replies guys!!!  :uarocks
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Flashback Rob on June 13, 2013, 09:32:00 AM
Did you fish that river?
I know the rivers around PMB and Greytown are teaming with yellows hey. Did you try a fly or two?
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: super_daav on June 13, 2013, 01:43:12 PM
Funny question or comment but arent the rivers closed now until 1 September? All the places I looked into for this weekend to go and fish have said that river fishing is no available?
 
Also heard bad stories about the rural areas...
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: maganything on June 13, 2013, 02:03:00 PM
Funny question or comment but arent the rivers closed now until 1 September? All the places I looked into for this weekend to go and fish have said that river fishing is no available?
 
Also heard bad stories about the rural areas...

river season closes from 1st June to 1st Sept for spawning!
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Ziggy on June 13, 2013, 02:53:59 PM
Funny question or comment but arent the rivers closed now until 1 September? All the places I looked into for this weekend to go and fish have said that river fishing is no available?
 
Also heard bad stories about the rural areas...

river season closes from 1st June to 1st Sept for spawning!


Thats right - however, if you go down to Rhodes in the E.Cape, you can still fish certain rivers in the closed season - see this http://www.wildtrout.co.za/winter-fishing (http://www.wildtrout.co.za/winter-fishing)
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Flashback Rob on June 13, 2013, 03:59:56 PM
The trout season closes from 1st July to 1 September but you can still fish the rivers for yellows -just not the sections that hold trout obviously. The umko this time of year for example is great for scali..
Title: Re: KZN Midlands Wild Trout?
Post by: Ziggy on June 13, 2013, 04:05:36 PM
The trout season closes from 1st July to 1 September but you can still fish the rivers for yellows -just not the sections that hold trout obviously. The umko this time of year for example is great for scali..


agreed - for those wh like the comforts, there is this place for scalies http://www.nyalapans.co.za/thingstodo.html
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