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Offline Timothy Scriven

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 02:53:20 PM »
Another Classy thread on UA

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2011, 02:57:46 PM »
Great post Reefz. What advantage does the Baker rig give over say 1 hook on the belly

Completely off topic Brad, but the Baker Rig was designed by Tim Baker of Nomads Sportfishing Australia... the pic below will explain it's effect clearly...
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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2011, 03:07:23 PM »
Thanks you for all the Info Reefman !! :shre:

This will be a great help ! Now that I have more information about the lures etc. Are there any special technique to
cast and to reel in the lures ?

I would sugest that you take any of your S-bend spoons and drag them thru the pool. Pull it at sutch a speed that the rear end makes a nice woble. ( swaying side to side ). That is the right speed to pull it at.

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2011, 03:28:31 PM »
 
You can also look at this but bear in mind that swimming action is largely dependent on speed of retrieval.
 
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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2011, 06:57:00 PM »
Also check out all the sticky's in the Saltwater Lure angling section... plenty info from Tommo... one of the best around.

http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/board,5.0.html
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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2012, 08:45:06 AM »
Hi Reefman
 
Please help. How do you do the snel hook attachment to a popper using kevlar?

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2012, 09:31:24 AM »
Hi Reefman
 
Please help. How do you do the snel hook attachment to a popper using kevlar?

Monster, here is the tut how to make an Assist Hook with Dacron/Kevlar/Zylon... http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=63.0

Instead of using it the way we do in this tut to a Solid ring, skip the ring and tie the looped end direct to the plug.

The tut above describes 2 ways of doing it - the 2nd way, where the Dacron/Kevlar is spliced inside itself is the way that the GT Ice cream plugs are rigged.

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 10:07:30 AM »
Great post Reefz! I can endorse the fact that singles are the way to go on lures. You get a far more solid hookup and lose less fish. Another interesting point is that you lose a lot less spoons when fishing from the rocks with singles. The KZN guys have been using singles for years, and not due to concern for the fish, but because they don't want to lose spoons.

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2012, 11:00:43 AM »
Nice post Tony, thanks :resp:

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2012, 11:08:14 AM »
Awesome
 
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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2012, 11:12:13 AM »
Tommo
 
I agree, trebles hurt the fish, tangle in your boxes and get stuck.
 
All of the trebles on my spoons have been repaced and I am in the process of doing the same on all my poppers and plugs. This thread is worth gold

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2012, 11:29:23 AM »
Awesome
 
Thank you reefman  :ult:  Rocks!

Ok Monster... have quickly made a tut for you on how to rig Stinger hooks... this should make it a lot simpler than the Jigging/Popping methods.

http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=10374.0
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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2012, 11:33:45 AM »
 :win: Thank you Tony!!!

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2012, 11:36:35 PM »
I have replaced the triples on my spinning lures(like the Onde Ondas) with either 4/0 or 5/0 Mustad hoodlums. However, instead of using 2 x split rings, I gently (very gently.....else the hook breaks) eased open the eye of the hook using a side cutter and a screw driver, until there was enough space to put the hook directly onto the lure without a split ring. I then put the eye of the hook into the vice and squeezed it closed again.
I understand this probably weakens the hook, but for small edibles, it seems to be OK, and have not yet had a hook fail on me.
 
The big advantage of this is that hook ALWAYS faces up (with very little wobble either side), thus you seldom snag on rocks, and you can even pull over other peoples lines (when the fishing is hectic, or you cast really skew), without catching their line.
 
I did try using 2 x split rings, but found there was too much wobble on the hook.
 
Always tried the lures in the pool to see how they swam. It's amazing how awesome they look.

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2012, 08:23:21 AM »
Why do you position a single so that it always faces up?
Most spinning lures are designed to be fished in the surface layer. Therefore wouldn't it make sense that most fish attack from underneath? So, in theory a downward facing hook would elicit a better hook up.
Obviously this depends on the species, whether a ram feeder or a suction feeder.


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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #35 on: June 27, 2012, 08:55:25 AM »
I have replaced the triples on my spinning lures(like the Onde Ondas) with either 4/0 or 5/0 Mustad hoodlums. However, instead of using 2 x split rings, I gently (very gently.....else the hook breaks) eased open the eye of the hook using a side cutter and a screw driver, until there was enough space to put the hook directly onto the lure without a split ring. I then put the eye of the hook into the vice and squeezed it closed again.
I understand this probably weakens the hook, but for small edibles, it seems to be OK, and have not yet had a hook fail on me.
 
The big advantage of this is that hook ALWAYS faces up (with very little wobble either side), thus you seldom snag on rocks, and you can even pull over other peoples lines (when the fishing is hectic, or you cast really skew), without catching their line.
 
I did try using 2 x split rings, but found there was too much wobble on the hook.
 
Always tried the lures in the pool to see how they swam. It's amazing how awesome they look.

 :tkx: Ian , how's some pics ???
 
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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2012, 01:51:28 PM »
Why do you position a single so that it always faces up?
Most spinning lures are designed to be fished in the surface layer. Therefore wouldn't it make sense that most fish attack from underneath? So, in theory a downward facing hook would elicit a better hook up.
Obviously this depends on the species, whether a ram feeder or a suction feeder.

With spinning from the shore/rocks, we try many types of retrieves, as close as possible to structure, often allowing a sinking lure to bounce off the bottom. An inverted hook would stand a good chance of snagging.
The surface lures we use, generally tend to be retrieved quite fast, with the fish chasing the lure from behind?  :dunno:
With a slower retrieved surface lure, with pauses, the hook would drop vertically with gravity - so orientation then wouldn't make a difference?
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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2012, 04:22:28 PM »
That's great, thanks for the explanation. (clap)
I guess spinning from the boat where the fish come from below is a bit different. Also we tend to retrieve fast.

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2012, 06:59:51 PM »
Quality stuff , thank you Reef

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Re: The Ultimate guide to attaching hooks to lures
« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2012, 07:35:25 PM »
Awesome post...wish i'd come across this sooner!!!  :+ cred:

 

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