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Almost finished my rod wrapper
« on: April 30, 2012, 07:47:42 PM »
A huge thanks to E.T. who helped me find what I was looking for. I have almost completed building my rod wrapper. A few more things to do but nearly there.














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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 08:30:01 PM »
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 08:33:56 PM »
Looks great Leigh! Question is... what motor you gonna use? I've seen some DIY rodbuilding machines that are pretty, but useless due to poor motors, speed adjustments and rheostats etc.

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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 08:59:48 PM »
It has a sewing machine motor same as imported units with a pedal to control the speed. So hopefully it works. i can alway change the pulley to slow it down more.









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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 07:02:58 AM »
 (clap) I would love to know if your motor runs smoothly at low speeds. If so, what make of motor is it, please?
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 07:29:46 AM »
It runs a bit fast now, I need to get a bigger pulley on the driven end and I will let you know.
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 08:05:29 AM »
Nice piece of work. Thanks for sharing,

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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 08:06:13 AM »
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 08:06:30 AM »
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 08:19:53 AM »
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2012, 09:01:10 AM »
A rodwrapper or power wrapper is there to fill one purpose only.
It is to keep enough tension on the blank in order to be able to do thread wraps.
The speed at which you put on these wraps are determined by how steady your foot is on the sewing machine motor's pedal.
Do not tamper with the size of the pulley on the drive shaft of the sewing machine motor.
You do not need it. If you want to use your wrapper to put flexcoat on you can do it 2 ways. Number one steady your foot control on the pedal or you build in a variable resistor that works the same as the foot pedal. You put in a switch. Switch it on, turn it to the desired speed and then you start putting on your flexcoat. If you do your wiring correctly, you should still be able to override the resistor/dimmer with the pedal.
A sewing machine motor is not designed to turn at 30RPM for 6 or 12 HRS straight.
You will burn that thing. Some people like a Wrapper/Dryer in one.
I do not see the use of that. Cause you can only do one rod at a time.
Use your wrapper to wrap the rod and work with a dry rack either horizontal or vertical along your wall. This you can achieve with a 220v Rotisserie Motor. You strap one of those Power Supply fans to the back of it and that will keep the motor cool. My rotisserie pulls 3 pulleys/chucks and it is powerful enough to dry 3 deep sea rods at a time.


There are a few motors that some use for dryers, these includes Conveyor Belt motors, expensive electric motors and even microwave motors. All of these can set you back anything from R90-Thousands of Rands.


You decide, do want to reinvent the wheel or do you want to build rods w;k

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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2012, 09:01:47 AM »
Great job so far Leigh :resp:

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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2012, 09:07:56 AM »
ET, it's not only a matter of how steady your foot on the pedal is. I've tried it with the exact same machine that Rory has and found that with the specific motors we have, it turns with erratice speed when RPM's are low - even with a reostat in lieu of the foot pedal.
Maybe it's a cheap sewing machine motor. :dunno:
Another possible power source would be an electric can opener.
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2012, 09:09:48 AM »
There is a lot of talent out there..........nice work  :udman:

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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2012, 09:37:25 AM »
ET, it's not only a matter of how steady your foot on the pedal is. I've tried it with the exact same machine that Rory has and found that with the specific motors we have, it turns with erratice speed when RPM's are low - even with a reostat in lieu of the foot pedal.
Maybe it's a cheap sewing machine motor. :dunno:
Another possible power source would be an electric can opener.


In short. The motor is crap as is the foot pedal that came with it.
Rory's kit is at my place, I am doing some mods to it.
My Sewing Machine Motor has given me 7 Years worth of service and about 2 years ago I added in the rheostat, even with that the motor does exactly what it should.
How many rods? I don't know as I lost count. I do know in one of the years I did 54 Rods.


Go to one of those Elna Sewing Machine Shops and buy yourself a good motor. With Pedal and everything you are looking at R250 upwards. Then your problem is sorted.


Also remember that there is s huge amount of pressure being put onto the blank by the wheels of your roller stands. Any motor will not like to start working at low RPM with such a huge start up. Rather set the Rheostat at medium to high pace and once it is going, you slow it down to the desired speed.


Am I making any sense?
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2012, 09:51:44 AM »
Thanks, ET. I think you know the machine I'm talking about.
Just a word of caution if anybody intends to use a reostat. Determine the power consumption of the motor first when working under strain. I bought the biggest reostat (800W) I could find thinking it would suffice, but it started smoking after a few seconds - with the motor still turning at erratic speed without load (rod) R260.00 down the drain.
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2012, 10:34:08 AM »
Thanks, ET. I think you know the machine I'm talking about.
Just a word of caution if anybody intends to use a reostat. Determine the power consumption of the motor first when working under strain. I bought the biggest reostat (800W) I could find thinking it would suffice, but it started smoking after a few seconds - with the motor still turning at erratic speed without load (rod) R260.00 down the drain.


Get the real deal at one of these electronic places. Cheap!!! Under a R100.

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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2012, 02:06:25 PM »
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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2012, 07:56:14 PM »
Very fine Work !!! thanks for sharing ..

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Re: Almost finished my rod wrapper
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 06:54:17 PM »
I turn the thread by hand and use 1 of 2 microwave moters. one is 2,5 to 3 rpm and the other is 5 to 6rpm. Pro's and con's??