Make your own Wind-on leaders - Double Splice

[MIKE PIKE]

Making smaller wind-on's is also not that easy , i tend to use stepped tapered leaders or normal leader up to about .90 and then switch to 1mm wind-on's

[Action Man]

Wind on leaders i use are from 1mm to 1.6mm , 1mm , 1.2mm up to 1.4 for beach use for targeting in -eds.. although if a kingie picks u up he is going to look for structure to cut u off so using 1 - 1.4 on beach just gives u added protection , 1.4mm to 1.8mm good on very rocky areas like t/kei more protection + u can grab the leader when fish is close, makes it easier to land.... but as usual they not bullet proof and can still get cut off on sharp mussels and rock structure.

Ah uh....last time someone leadered my fish ended up with stiches on there forehead from my rod holder! People under estimate how simple it is to lose your fish by grabbing the leader...prob one of the worst thing to do

[MIKE PIKE]

  .... only those last meter or two just to get to the fish, no violent pulling just steady pressure.. ??

[Action Man]

I understand what you saying...but still if you think about it you putting the pressure diarectly onto the hook and iv seen plenty people pull hooks, straighten them and sometimes even clip the leader causing it to part...rather just pull hard with the rod as the bend in the rod takes the pressure off the hook which you stand more of a chacne landing your fish

[MIKE PIKE]

True , that makes sense especially with hooks pulling , bending straight as then u have direct pressure on the fish  , no stretch in leader at 1 meter at all so the hook takes all the force and lets go . :sml:

[Action Man]

You see I'm not as dumb as I look  ...but when it comes to fishing I know what I'm talking about and doing  :sml:

[Gerrit]

You see I'm not as dumb as I look  ...but when it comes to fishing I know what I'm talking about and doing  :sml:

JY DINK JYS COOLER AS EKKE   

[Cuthbad]

so i finally got round to giving this a shot and im stuck....

got some 80lb dacron, managed to splice it 5 or so times leaving a small loop, passed the threading needle through one leg of the dacron and out near the bottom splice, passed the other leg through the threading needle but now i cant get the second leg back through the inside of the first. I have been trying for a couple of hours, broken the threading needle, yelled and swore at it, went n had a beer, then came back and yelled and swore some more. cant get it....

it seems when the second leg is essentially doubled by passing it through the needle eye then trying to pull the needle  back through it becomes too thick to pass through the inside of the first leg.

Please, what the hell am i doing wrong? could it be that only certain brands of dacron are appropriate for this?

[REEFMAN]

Once you've threaded the needle through the first leg right up to the splice, penetrate the 1st leg and thread the 2nd leg through the threader eye. Now bunch the first leg up all the way to the top. Slowly pull the 2nd leg through, all the time, keep bunching the 1st leg up... that will do it.

[Cuthbad]

thanks reefs, after getting some advice about the dacron i had bought i ordered some cortlands green spot online. It arrived today and after an hour i had made my first wind on, another half hour and I had three more done. The other stuff just wasnt right for the job at all

Thanks again foir the awesome post! DIY wind-ons havent cought on much at all here yet for land based game, but i reckon they will. these things are great!

[REEFMAN]

Cuthbad... if you guys aren't using wind-ons, are you still using straight mainline to leader? The reason we use these now, is because the larger diameter leaders 1.2mm and above, make a mess of your rod guides when casting an ordinary knot. Be interested to know how the Aussies do it?

[Cuthbad]

most of the land based game fishing here is done using baloons, as such casting is not necesary. more and more the sliding technique is catching on though and we are starting to see slides and other "South African style" gear being sold over here. Alternatively kayaks are also used to get big baits out some times.

to me sliding baits is a more "pure" style of fishing. the more i learn about it the more i love it!

[Cuthbad]

one more question, could basic sowing thread be used in place of the braid or dental floss when covering this with UV knot sense? i cant see why not but i thought i would check.

cheers

[REEFMAN]

Not sure whether sewing thread is as strong as Dental floss? Floss has very high tensile strength for it's value.

Once you've glued the floss, it also kinda gels together to form a flexible bond that works very well.

[David Taylor]

Bringing up an old thread here. What is Pliobond and where can I get some? Are there any other glues that can be used? I am quite interested in trying to make a couple of windons. Got some awesome ones from lenny and now not looking back

[REEFMAN]

Pliobond started out as a Wood glue many years ago. Now they use it for many things. Main benefits are that it is flexible and doesn't crack. There's no point having a brittle knot that will crack on being bent.

[David Taylor]

thanks

[bos suzi]

Can someone help, where can I get airshrink in pretoria?


Thank you

[Lenny]

Can someone help, where can I get airshrink in pretoria?


Thank you

Bru , I don't know about airshirk , I am afraid of shrinking awl the air .. LOL


But HEAT shrink  , you can find at most hardware stores , electrical stores , most talk shops stock it nowadays too .

[Lenny]

one more question, could basic sowing thread be used in place of the braid or dental floss when covering this with UV knot sense? i cant see why not but i thought i would check.

cheers

Sowing thread I would avoid its too this ., rather get yourself a Fly tying bobbin , and some flat waxed Thick  fly tying thread .  Sold and made over 4000 the past few years , very smooth thin finish . I never did , and never will use Dental floss , if the material are available , why go stone age using floss , besides , you will never get the floss as neat as the FLytying thread .