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Casting big throw baits
« on: August 11, 2011, 12:27:43 PM »
hi guys
i need to learn how to throw, throw baits now. especially the big throwbaits.
i suck at this.
tackle loomis sharky+saltist 50 +.50line
7oz sinker - macky head + cutlet bait and i only got like 40mts.
put an 8oz got less distance.
grap sinkers used.
 
i tried a double sardine with mbonnie fillet, got like 40mts as well with a 7oz.
the lighter the sinker, the bigger the overwind. 7-8oz was fine.
is ther any techniques compared to chucking a normal 8-9oz for sliding.
its a huge difference.
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011, 12:32:55 PM »
Practice! Try making your baits more streamlined and clipping your sinker. Also make sure your action is smooth just a sinker is far more forgiving on your technical mistakes than a sinker and bait
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011, 12:39:48 PM »
I have a glued some converyor belts together ...i call them make shift baits to practice with ...
 
I will take pics & post later ..
may carry sum to Social & we will do a few casts & record them for you ....  w;k
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011, 12:57:46 PM »
Homie has got some videos of throwing Big baits somewhere?!?!  <:

This is what we use to practice....

Conveyor belt... 8oz. Remember the biggerb the bait, the bigger the sinker needed to maintain the spool revolution...

So, it's 8oz bait, 8oz sinker = 16oz throwing... this is dangerous to do on any rod, so you need to be careful... very smooth lob action. If you jerk it, you'll snap your rod...
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2011, 12:57:55 PM »
Kumz please bring them along!
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2011, 01:00:12 PM »
Will do Buddy ...making sum smaller ones 2 nite as well ...
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2011, 01:15:53 PM »
thanks guys
 
i always clip my bait and try to make it as aero dynamic as possible.
i think its going to take practice.
just tort ther myt be a different method of casting with big baits instead of sinkers only wen sliding
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2011, 01:26:15 PM »
Quote from: REEFMAN on August 11, 2011, 12:57:46 PM
Homie has got some videos of throwing Big baits somewhere?!?!  <:

Yup, I do....

will have to copy them to disc... they in hd... HUGE !
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2011, 01:34:11 PM »
shot homie
 
much appreciated.
can you not put it up on youtube?
and send the link?
 
thanks guys, much appreciated
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2011, 01:35:18 PM »
Quote from: Homie on August 11, 2011, 01:26:15 PM
Yup, I do....

will have to copy them to disc... they in hd... HUGE !

Homes... put them on disc for me and I'll edit them. Saturday?
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2011, 01:41:16 PM »
Quote from: REEFMAN on August 11, 2011, 12:57:46 PM
Homie has got some videos of throwing Big baits somewhere?!?!  <:

This is what we use to practice....

Conveyor belt... 8oz. Remember the biggerb the bait, the bigger the sinker needed to maintain the spool revolution...

So, it's 8oz bait, 8oz sinker = 16oz throwing... this is dangerous to do on any rod, so you need to be careful... very smooth lob action. If you jerk it, you'll snap your rod...

thanks reefz... this looks interesting. will dig up what i can, and make my practice proto type, get a line counter and check the diff  w;k
whats the use of only sliding baits, if you cannot throw baits?
a complete angler will know all facets.I would like to be this angler 1day.
il try and put some vidz up wkend of my technique/ style.
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2011, 02:17:01 PM »
on the poseidon XXXH, i get 80 - 90m on a whole frigate and 8 ounce sinker....

But smooth reel and smooth cast and alles smooth or its knitting time....

Dunno how i'll fare in swells wading and such but we'll see this summer..
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2011, 02:21:10 PM »
Thanks Marthin ...may i ask what size Frigget ? length ?...Thanks
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2011, 02:25:21 PM »
it's not massive... i've had 2 ined successes, or kinda successes, one was a big stingray, broke leader at the mountain after 2 hours, one was a bronzie... both were on smaller frigates....

I look for a frigate about the length of a decent pilchard... but then they are much rounder.... about 22 - 25cm.  i use a double J trace, and hook the frigate on exactly the opposite way you would if you were sliding it. head facing down.  clip those little pecs and tail off, and then i cable tie the trace at the head and also by the second hook, to make sure everything runs in a "straight stripe"....
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2011, 02:32:21 PM »
 (clap)   Superb throw man ....  :resp:
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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2011, 03:07:25 PM »
with a circle this drops down to about 50m 60 max, as i havent perfected bait presentation clipping a circle, it's always flapping in the wind!
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2011, 03:08:57 PM »
Quote from: Marthin on August 11, 2011, 03:07:25 PM
with a circle this drops down to about 50m 60 max, as i havent perfected bait presentation clipping a circle, it's always flapping in the wind!

Understood ... & sometimes you get Helicopter effect !!!
 
I need to practice for Nats 2012 .... :clwn
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2011, 03:37:49 PM »
tried circle hooks as well, not aero dynamic at all... could work of a good deepwater point thou.
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2011, 03:55:50 PM »
Another thing to remember when throwing big baits is to tighten your cast control knob to start with, otherwise it's bunch time.
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Re: throwing with big throw baits or decent throw baits.
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2011, 09:44:54 AM »
@Reefman - what do you mean by wind down your cast control closed to start with? Hope I'm not being doff here, but if you don't ask, you neva find out  :dunno:   
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