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Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« on: May 13, 2011, 05:28:10 PM »
Fighting Chairs have been around a long while and the 2 main techniques used are the straight leg or the bent leg technique.
 
Stand up fishing is becoming very popular but does require physical strength and some weight.
 
Battle stations seem to be a nice mix between the 2 and also uses your body weight like the straight leg technique in a chair.
 
What are your thoughts.

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 08:20:26 PM »
Fighting Chairs have been around a long while and the 2 main techniques used are the straight leg or the bent leg technique.
 
Stand up fishing is becoming very popular but does require physical strength and some weight.
 
Battle stations seem to be a nice mix between the 2 and also uses your body weight like the straight leg technique in a chair.
 
What are your thoughts.

No problem there for you hey Mikey??  :hyst:

I would rather have a chair. It seems a little half job! Get a chair or use a harness... My opinion!

Look, this is how you do it Mike!  :hehe:
« Last Edit: May 13, 2011, 08:23:48 PM by benniejordaan »

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 08:30:59 PM »
I made a mock up to try and can tell you that it is extremely effective, that little girl in that pic will never hold 8kg of drag, let alone 12Kg and 80lb on full at 17Kg will see her swimming.
 
After a long 3hr fight with 17Kg of drag  I struggled, especially with my high trolling bars and when the fish went to the motors I nearly was on the gunnels and struggling to hold on.
 
I need a SAFER and easier solution for my clients.

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 06:37:42 AM »
I made a mock up to try and can tell you that it is extremely effective, that little girl in that pic will never hold 8kg of drag, let alone 12Kg and 80lb on full at 17Kg will see her swimming.
 
After a long 3hr fight with 17Kg of drag  I struggled, especially with my high trolling bars and when the fish went to the motors I nearly was on the gunnels and struggling to hold on.

Mike, tour only option is a chair. There is no other way off fighting a 300lb + fish...and a 500lb + blue will demand you using a chair.
This point is only stronger if you think about client that might lack the correct stand-up techniques and it's 100% safe
 
I need a SAFER and easier solution for my clients.
chair is your only option. a big fish will demolish you on standup
« Last Edit: May 14, 2011, 06:40:15 AM by jaenswart »

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 01:49:41 PM »
Stand up fishing is awesome and you can beat huge fish with the correct gear, I love it!! But in order to do it effectively you need BIG space and stability, which unfortunatley is the realm of the sportsfishers!! Although we have effectively fought big fish in the black magics of our Ski boat but we are experienced anglers.
Which is why we chose to have a chair on the boat for our clients, so even the novice angler can pull a big fish with only a couple of minutes of instruction, its the only safe means with inexperience.

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 02:26:23 PM »
Thanks Guys,
 
Does anyone have design ideas to make a chair??

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2011, 03:00:26 PM »
Me , that girl, a chair & a half job .........um...what ...?

Battle station looks like it could get a little awkward.
If I needed to make the decision, I'd say chair as well.



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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2011, 05:28:03 PM »
The newer smaller fighting chairs (z'craft) would be perfect. I don't see a battle station being too comfortable in rough weather. A fighting chair will also give the extra edge looks wise to customers. Perception goes a long way. I just saw one of these at Inhaca on a new 2406, I'll dig in the pictures later tonight and see if I took any pics.
 
I'd recommend getting something simple, no need for all the extra stuff people have in their chairs nowadays and have them weigh 200kgs.
 
But most definitely get the fighting chair. If anything and above all, it would great enhance customer's experience. They can always enjoy it and feel the *big fish* while one reels it in and the other plays a part turning the chair and you chase it down. Even taxman fishing, they love the whole scene.
 
As a suggestion on the back rest, no need for the whole back support, a nice rocket launcher with 2 or 3 rod holders and 2 drink cups would be awesome. Of course cushions at the front and where you seat down. Ain't nothing worse then sliding on a wet fighting chair or having your butt uncomfy. Make it count.
 
Pretty sure you have enough space for it on the f200, i've seen a few with them.
 
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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 09:26:02 AM »
Was thinking... None of the guys in C.T. seem to use fighting chars at all. They all seem to use harnesses and I know for a fact guys like Miles will catch more than one 80kg + fish in a day!

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2011, 10:33:11 AM »
I would say Char. reason being is most of your crew are charters who have never been to sea before, or if they have, only a hand full of times.
A 20ft bvoat still rock n rolls a lot and keeping a "green" (often in more ways than one) on their feet can be a challenge, even when fighing small fish. a chaair lets them sit safely in comfort.
Bennie, I agree re stand up, BUT miles has more sea hrs to his anme than most SA Navy Seamen, so he is a different beast when it comes to stand up.
The chair needs to be small enough to be turned out of the way when necessary but adequate to take the bok front row when needed, and must be easily removed.

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2011, 11:04:47 AM »
Something like this
The boat is an F200 as well

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2011, 11:06:29 AM »
Yes, looks good, the only problem is I would have to make a mould for the glass seat and need a simpler idea for that.

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2011, 11:12:11 AM »
We would prefer it if you didn't steal our mould :hehe:


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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 11:43:02 AM »
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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2011, 11:43:53 AM »
Or maybe this??
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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2011, 12:06:55 PM »
I like that second one Greg, are they expensive??  :hyst: :hyst:

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2011, 12:09:57 PM »
I like that second one Greg, are they expensive??  :hyst: :hyst:
I dont think you can really put a price on safety and comfort for your charter clients...... :crzy

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2011, 12:14:12 PM »
I dont think you can really put a price on safety and comfort for your charter clients...... :crzy

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Re: Fighting Chairs vs Battle Stations
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2011, 12:55:04 PM »
i can do you one of these at R199 and we use  hot plastic injection moulding and 4 self tappers to screw to deck

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