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Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« on: May 24, 2015, 02:51:15 PM »
Iíve  been wanting to up my game a bit in the jigging department to add a few more  strings to my bow, especially with some upcoming trips approaching,  I like to mix up my fishing techniques to keep  things interesting but most of the time just to catch a breather when I get round  to the lighter tackle.

So I  recently DIYíed a couple of jigging rods and seeing that they were interesting builds  and there is really nothing on this subject within UAís DIY forum thought Iíd  share a few of the pointers I picked up along the way, now I donít profess to  be an expert but this might help anyone contemplating their own jigging DIYíer  in the future.

Firstly,  what to build? I was looking for a middle of the road fast jigging rod to target  the usual suspects, and with Gerhardís valuable input settled on PE5 , for jigs  up to 300g. Sorted. I also wanted to build a slow pitch PE 3 rod for reef rats,  Sorted.

Next,  what blank? Iím a big Black Hole fan and have build most of my own surf and  popping rods on their blanks, so picking the PE5 was easy in the way of the one  piece 250g jigging blank which I know can handle a bit more. The slow pitch was much  more of a challenge as there are almost no specialist blanks available yet for  this relatively new discipline, I was very keen on the BH slow pitch blank but  it was only available as a complete rod, fortunately with some haggling I was  able to get Kilsong at Jigínpop to part with one of his road show demo blanks.  Sorted.

Just  to make things a bit more interesting, I wanted to spiral wrap them and work  with some new materials to me like cross cut and carbon fibre grips. This was  the result, I know them as the 'green mamba' and 'bumble bee'!

Compared  to conventional spinning blanks, where one finds under load most of the action  is towards the tip section, jigging blanks are far more dynamic in that they  have a far greater bending range. Which mean under load there is significant  bent in the blank all the way down to the reel seat, which poses some interesting  technical challenges which at first though are easily missed.

One  of the things I wanted was to get away with as smaller guides as possible,  which is what I have started to do more of, mainly as I like to take a wide  range of rods and having smaller guide sets helps a lot in getting more of them  into rod cases. Anyone thatís put a rod into a rod tube with a size 40 guide or  bigger knows what Iím talking about. My ideal choice for a stripper guide was a  smallish 20. There in the first challenge, requiring several essential static  tests.

With  the parabolic action of this short blank under load the top section is not a concern,  I was happy to go with evenly spaced guides, whatís going on between the reel  to the first running guide is where all the attention is needed.

One,  being the problem encountered sometimes with conventional overhead jigging rods  under load, of the line between the reel and the striper guide rubbing and  cutting into the foregrip (and fingers if in the way). This needs to be  countered with a combination of correct stripper placement, with the tendency  to shorten the distance between the reel and stripper guide, an adequately high  stripper guide and tapering down or flattening of the front section of a  relatively short  foregrip. In my case as  I intended using a smaller guide I wrapped it immediately in front of the crosscut  foregrip which I tapered down. ( As a side note, also essential a fully loaded  spool which helps elevate the line angle down to the stripper guide... except of  course where you have a doggie on 200m down on the way to 250!!)

(Note:  these pics are not of the actual static tests, this write up was an after  though, so I mocked these up quickly under light load just to demonstrate)

The  second placement to get right is the bumper guide which is the transition guide  taking the line between the overhead stripper and the 1st runner  guide on the underside of the rod. There are a number of theories on this,  using additional bumper guides at various degrees, but I decided on these short  blanks to keep it to a simple single bumper set at 90į offset on the reel  handle side.

Generally,  looking at factory made spiral wrap rods, most use a standard decreasing  graduation of guide sizes similar to what is used on conventional spinning  rods, which means the bumper guide may well be the 2nd biggest guide  on the rod after the stripper guide, this makes the rod more aesthetically  appealing, but in my view is the incorrect guide to use as a bumper as it  creates  larger line angles away from the  blank. Ideally one wanted to keep the angles as small as possible so as to just  keep the line running past the blank, so opted for a much smaller 8 size guide  as a bumper. Looks odd but more practical.

The  second observation on most factory rods is the conventional placement of the  bumper guide usually somewhere around the midpoint between the stripper guide  and the 1st runner guide, but in the picture below with the rod on  load it is clear that the line bisects the blank much closer to the stripper  guide than the midpoint. Under load there would be excessive line angles and  lateral stress on a midpoint bumper. So I let the 8 size float on the line  between the two guides and positioned it at the point where the line and the  blank intersect so as to minimise the line angles when the blank is under  considerable load which of course is when it is most critical to minimise those  angles and forces.  Again looks odd but  more practical.


At least I donít  have long to wait hopefully to see them bending, heading to Vanuatu at the  beginning of June, judging by the recent trip reports they should be a lot and  hopefully will end in a good trip report here on UA.

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Re: Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2015, 04:00:19 PM »
Looking fantastic mate... though I must say, although I've never tried fishing an acid wrap rod, I find myself uneasy with the idea. I just find it seems awkward. Would love to be proved wrong one day though.
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Re: Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2015, 06:11:18 PM »
Nice Bud... good luck with it. Vanuatu...I am Jealous....Great info.

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Re: Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2015, 06:14:20 PM »
Very nicely done!

Ready for Ocean Blue and then in Oct its Bug Blu to get them bending... (clap)

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Re: Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2015, 08:00:13 PM »
great stuff, acid wrap is the bomb, i had 2 tiagra b rods that were twisting under pressure when live baiting, i had the guides removed and acid wrapped them and they are absolutely awesome!
Blackhole are fantastic rods, ive got 3 of them and absolutely love it! 2 of which are custom built, awesome stuff harvey, thanx for sharing!


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Re: Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2015, 08:28:50 PM »
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Some lovely innovation. It all makes sense

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Re: Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2015, 08:49:52 PM »
Looking good love the colours . BLING BLING !!

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Re: Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 03:00:35 PM »
I do like the placement of the bumper guide... very practical and thought-through.

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Re: Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2015, 07:37:00 PM »
Wow , those make other rods look like toothpicks .

Great info too.


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Re: Vertical and Slow Pitch Jigging Rods
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2015, 08:26:24 PM »
That looks like  very well build rods