Static magging a Penn torque and other reels

[colin]

Hi Hagar , ditto a request for contact details .  . Colin.

[Half-Pint]

...   some impressive stats Hagar and huge improvement  , awesome , think its time i got my heavy ined reels static magged , Brad give me a shout when u send off the Torium , might be adding some reels to the box ...    

Will do!

I might just order the kit and fit it myself  not sure how hard it would be

[Lofty]

I'm interrested in mags for my Tor 30 and Penn Fathom 30,could someone please pm me the price and if it's easy enough to install myself...

[HAGAR]

This is Wilhelp aka Cuban cigar's number, he is on watsapp that is where me and him spoke most of the time.
 
072 186 0670
 
email
 
magbrake@gmail.com

[Psy]

...Sorry for my ignorance...still cannot understand why one would do this to a reel......then get a coffee....

   Kenty....        What a fool I was.
I shared your doubt!
I purchased a few clever reels, thinking I was 'managing' to cast them quite well.
Consensus then was that the 30A was too fast for most peoples pockets and only the experienced could throw them. I suffered but bit my gums and continued changing monofilament, believing I was gaining experience with the reel. I went one step further and looked for lubricants to assist with service and upkeep. I found Corrosion block and Hot Stuff. Applied same to an already fast reel, which became somewhat of a Indy Car on the track.
Finally after much debate I sent my reel's to CC, including the Talica 25 II.
Now I can very comfortably cast/gooi/whack (even at night) without issues full tilt) without thumb control, without birds-nesting line, without having to pull off and cut off or spend money on new mono.
You are probably saying...I have an 'educated' thumb....
Do yourself a favour, for what its worth, you will be pleasantly surprised.
 
 

[Charles]

I also had my reels done by Cuban Cigar, Tor20, SLH50 and Fathom 30. Never looked back, never had a serious over-wind and I am as happy as can be. Absolutely recommended.

[colin]

   Magged my SL30sh and casting is much more pleasurable and predictable, I use it on 12' 3oz and on a  12' 5oz rod as well , !00%.


The only issue is that very occasionally the line slips between the spool and the reel case . Any ideas why this is happens, I use .40 line , and with a 5 oz a few winds around the spool of .45 line. 

[Psy]

colin....daiwa slosh30?

[Kent]

...Sorry for my ignorance...still cannot understand why one would do this to a reel......then get a coffee....

   Kenty....        What a fool I was.
I shared your doubt!
I purchased a few clever reels, thinking I was 'managing' to cast them quite well.
Consensus then was that the 30A was too fast for most peoples pockets and only the experienced could throw them. I suffered but bit my gums and continued changing monofilament, believing I was gaining experience with the reel. I went one step further and looked for lubricants to assist with service and upkeep. I found Corrosion block and Hot Stuff. Applied same to an already fast reel, which became somewhat of a Indy Car on the track.
Finally after much debate I sent my reel's to CC, including the Talica 25 II.
Now I can very comfortably cast/gooi/whack (even at night) without issues full tilt) without thumb control, without birds-nesting line, without having to pull off and cut off or spend money on new mono.
You are probably saying...I have an 'educated' thumb....
Do yourself a favour, for what its worth, you will be pleasantly surprised.
 

You Sir....have an UN educated thumb.... ...BUT...as they say different strokes , in this case MAGGING, for different folks and each to his own.....As in Indy car , F1 etctetc...launch control , clutch ...wait ..they dont have clutches??....and all this other gizmos...to me its nor racing anymore BUt just driving...that being said ...the techno advances HAVE been applied to our road going cars and they HAVE become safer over the years albeit more expensive....BUT...I will still stick to my trusty ole SL30 as she came off the factory bench....and as to overwinds.....I was taught ...NEVER cut!!...Maxima green was expensive in those days...Sooo...a 4 inch nail was standard equipment in my sling bag...

[colin]

 author=Psy
colin....daiwa slosh30? 

Hi Psy
the SL30sh have done a 50 size as well.

[Psy]

...Sorry for my ignorance...still cannot understand why one would do this to a reel......then get a coffee....

   Kenty....        What a fool I was.
I shared your doubt!
I purchased a few clever reels, thinking I was 'managing' to cast them quite well.
Consensus then was that the 30A was too fast for most peoples pockets and only the experienced could throw them. I suffered but bit my gums and continued changing monofilament, believing I was gaining experience with the reel. I went one step further and looked for lubricants to assist with service and upkeep. I found Corrosion block and Hot Stuff. Applied same to an already fast reel, which became somewhat of a Indy Car on the track.
Finally after much debate I sent my reel's to CC, including the Talica 25 II.
Now I can very comfortably cast/gooi/whack (even at night) without issues full tilt) without thumb control, without birds-nesting line, without having to pull off and cut off or spend money on new mono.
You are probably saying...I have an 'educated' thumb....
Do yourself a favour, for what its worth, you will be pleasantly surprised.
 

You Sir....have an UN educated thumb.... ...BUT...as they say different strokes , in this case MAGGING, for different folks and each to his own.....As in Indy car , F1 etctetc...launch control , clutch ...wait ..they dont have clutches??....and all this other gizmos...to me its nor racing anymore BUt just driving...that being said ...the techno advances HAVE been applied to our road going cars and they HAVE become safer over the years albeit more expensive....BUT...I will still stick to my trusty ole SL30 as she came off the factory bench....and as to overwinds.....I was taught ...NEVER cut!!...Maxima green was expensive in those days...Sooo...a 4 inch nail was standard equipment in my sling bag...

Kent...No! ..........My thumb's are working well!
The high $ reels are pretty fast. Much faster than your trusty 'AK47' SLOSH#30.
As you mentioned the technical advances over the past few years, have raised the bar! The composites and inner components including gearing are way above your AK47.
It took a few casts and quite some time to find the sweet spot for the magnet position. So the reel had to be stripped down and the magnet repositioned and reel rebuilt etc. before another casting session was undertaken. Eventually the chosen spot was achieved.
I chose different monofilaments... Perline, Awa-Shima, Dbblx,  but have settled on Berkely Trilene, which together with its knot strength, suppleness, no memory.... Now without any thumb control I experience hassle free casting with the 30A.
No overruns, no birds-nesting, no nylon wastage, and no need to carry 4" nails 
CC's mods and additions are not to be slighted.
As said before; try before you buy!
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@ Colin...check the Cast Control! If too loose it will allow free play on the spool/shaft & body of the reel.
This will create an opening between spool and casing, which your monofilament can get wrapped into or caught within.
I had the very issue with a Torium 20 ~ the casing was not 100% true to the spool, so allowing the line to slip into the small space between the spool & frame...often damaging the line, either flattening/squashing it or creating kinks in the line.
Solution; ............float tested the reel.    ....your call 

[colin]

Hell Psy , 1am , do you work nights or like me have a bladder problem ?? . Will check ,don't think it is the cast control , your suggestion that it may be the shaft not running true, or a slight deformation of the spool or casing seems more likely. I will rotate and check both in a good light and with specs.     

[Psy]

i work nights...yuup! :)

[Kent]

  .I bet my AK47 as you call it , with its reworked spool spindle , ceramic bearings and brake shafts removed and ratchet removed with graphite powder on the inner wall spool walls will still be a HELLUVA lot faster out the blocks than any of the off the shelf "super" reels...BUT...then again my "mods" have been to speed my AK47 up NOT slow it down with magging as you call it.....Multipliers spools were never designed to be "slowed" down ...hence enter the much complicated coffee grinders.....Aaaarrgghh...hate the things!!.....BUT...Im just yapping now and before this becomes ..."mine is bigger/faster OR in your case , "slower" than mine " story...lets just agree to disagree ...AT least you not hung up on coffee grinders ....ne Simon???....ek se ma net...

[LGF]

Don't wanna restart what Kent ended with but, the stat-magging is actually a performance enhancement and not a brake-system. Yes it slows the spool down by means of inductive magnetism as result of induced "Eddie currents" etc etc, been explained before. However,.............. Kent and other that still ponder if they should or not, read on.


What this slowing down does, is to ensure that no matter the power placed in the cast, the magnet/s slows the "over speed" down so that the line gets pulled out with more control and thus with better efficiency that equals greater distance. With the benefit of the "no-over winds", "no-nesting" etc etc.


Trust me on this, magging a reel is all about performance (distance without issues) and not limiting the performance of the reel, but improving it.
My fishing bud and me both have the exact same rods, actually bought mine cause he rated it such a great rod, both of us used Suffix 832 50lb braid and rigged the exact same top water Spro frogs, even the same colour, he was at the front of the boat and I was at the back, always like that, it's his boat.  Each time we cast these rods I end up casting at least 15m further than him, every time! He once said "Are we on the See who can cast the furthest again today?" Then went on to change to 20lb braid for distance, no help I still achieve the average of 15m further than him, this btw excludes the boat length.


So where does magging come in, well my reel has no less than 5 micro adjustable neodinium magnets (factory installed) in the one side plate, his doesn't. If he loosens his cast control, he does just that looses cast control and end up wasting distance or if not careful time to haul out his 4" nail (BPS line pick) to fix the over wind, in which time I probably would get around 15 casts in and that increases my opportunity to land the monster in the grass.


They should put this in multipliers too, regardless the increase in cost, that increase in cost will easily be forgotten once people get the taste of the efficiency of this system and lemme say this, if one of the major supplier brings out just one model with this installed as a feature, it will outsell all the other makes and models, period!


@ Kent.
As PSY stated, try it once, perhaps not on your trusty AK, that's a classic and should be left as is, one never messes with a classic, no matter what kind of a classic it is, be it a car, a song, a recipe, gun or a reel! Period! So, see if somebody close to you have such a magged reel (preferably a similar to one you would do this modification to) and ask him/her to have a couple of casts with it, that way you can compare it properly. But it is a super upgrade and not a visible damaging downgrade.


PS, see you've already done some mods on your AK to speed it up and that's Super, now add NOS too your dyna-tuned, blueprint (balanced) weight reduced, fuel injected, graphite greased super smooth bearing, braked removed machine   and have it open all the time, pedal to metal with launch control, maximum power without slipping tyres or wheel spin, smoke and the eventual loss in distance covered in a certain amount of time.

[Kent]

  ..Hehe...let me reply with a picture....OR rather explain what and how I fish....My spoons range from half ounce to absolute MAX 2oz...BUT...will on average almost always be throwing a 1,5oz spoon....NOW....throwing a lighter "weight" is more difficult than a heavier one , coz one thinks one needs to put more effort to get the lighter weight going and further???...Well , now , should you have an educated thumb , a very well tuned multiplier (un magged) , you will not need to to muscle that lighterweight ...BUT instead have a steady smooth "flick" BUT firm/hard cast and a thumb that can brake just as firm/hard....


Throw HARD and brake HARD!!!...BUT..steady and smooth....I see alot of fisherman casting light weights and they step on the cast...fatal mistake!!...the moment that reel is moving in your hands its overwind time ....that reel must be the pivot point and must be as STEADFAST as possible....the steadier/still your reel is the smoother and less overwinds you will get and then no need for all this un natural braking systems....BUT this then again is only my opinion...

[LGF]

 , no probs Kent, just my 2 Zim cents worth.

Ok let me paint you a PICASO , with our type of fishing we end up casting what you guys in that big blue pond (that holds no fish, THANX CHINA) cast for the entire day in less than a minute . It also entails various weights, shapes and profiles (aerodynamics of certain bulky light weight baits) on different types of lines of various thicknesses with many a different rod in length, backbone, tip actions etc and then this gets done by flipping, skipping, pitching, long hard powered and normal and light powered casts and flicks, over shoulder, under arm, sideways and up and under casting/flipping/pitching action, then there's wind or lack thereof, trees and other natural elements/structure to consider for each and every cast and although we (I for one) do not use a thumb to brake a cast, I do however use the lifting of the rodtip at the end of a pitch to make the bait enter the water with the least amount of noise and splash and a magged reel (factory) is a must. Also each reel (application specific) is fine tuned for my style of casting/flipping/pitching whatever, I therefore don't need to have all the fine tuned thumb control parameters stored in the grey matter  :toppie:that would apply to each and every setup.

But again, if you're  with your setup as is, well then your  with it, thing is, I know you could be happier and get better distances .