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Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« on: August 27, 2010, 03:34:05 PM »
Hi guys when targetting Kingies from the shore what will be better for them, Paddletails or Jerkshads. Need to get some for my trip to Moz, also will appreciate if you can please mention size/colour and brand of plastic.

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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2010, 04:13:18 PM »
Hi Papparoach

I don't have to much experiance with dropshot but I would not go to Moz without 5 inch Berkley pearl Watermelon jerkshads and 7inch pepperneon jerkshads also from Berkley.

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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2010, 04:47:15 PM »
Some of the guys here on the forum should answer that for you shortly

In the mean time....  :welc:
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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2010, 10:55:20 PM »
Papparoach , i think the paddle tails be more effective as Kingies are pretty aggressive game fish and the action and water disturbance caused by the larger paddle tails (5- 7 inch) will get them interested, havea look at the Mcarty (spelling ) range they produce good results and are locally made so a whole lot cheaper as well , try various colours as well , dont forget the surface poppers Halco range and Plugs( Aubrey de Gama) the white ones , Kingfish cant stay away from them as they skip on the surface , mimicks bait fish and will get the Kingies very interested. :tite       

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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 11:17:41 PM »
You need both Paddle Tails and Jerk Shads/Minnows as each is to be fished differently.

Paddle Tails have their own built in movement (The tail) and so should be fished with an even retreive from fast to slow until you find out what speed is working and then stick to it, however Kingies usually like it fast.

Jerk Shads/Minnows do not have a built in movement and so with these lures you need to impart the movement (Jerk) on the lure from fast to slow until you get the right speed.

I like to use the Strike King and Z-Man 5" Magic Zulu's (Jerk Shad) and 4" Glass Minnows (Paddle Tails)

I also like the Mc Arthy range from the 3" right up to the 7" but again the 5" is my favorite for Kingies.

Jig heads from 1/4oz - 3/4oz with 1/2o being one of my favourites.

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My goto is Pearl with a Blue Glimmer and then plain Pearl
Then you can go with Pinks, Chartruese, Yellows and even some dark colours for early morning/late afternoon, bright colours during the day.
Also look a two tones like Pink/Chartruese, Black White, Blue/White, Red/White

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To me the way you move and fish your lure is more important than the colour.
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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 01:38:43 PM »
Thanx for the responses i will have to get couple of packets of the jerk shads. What about the jig heads, there are couple of shapes, from the ball to arrow shaped heads. Do they impart of a different action on the lure? Which one do you guy's normally use?

Thx once again

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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 04:32:25 PM »
Thanx for the responses i will have to get couple of packets of the jerk shads. What about the jig heads, there are couple of shapes, from the ball to arrow shaped heads. Do they impart of a different action on the lure? Which one do you guy's normally use?

Thx once again

Personally I prefer the ball shape
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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 04:38:11 PM »
Thanx for the responses i will have to get couple of packets of the jerk shads. What about the jig heads, there are couple of shapes, from the ball to arrow shaped heads. Do they impart of a different action on the lure? Which one do you guy's normally use?

Thx once again

I prefer the ball shape for open water and working through the water column. I use the arrow head when working my dropshot through sandy botom

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2010, 04:40:11 PM »
I would love to do this dropshot stuff at Santa maria & Hells Gate.
I must invest in a good rod and reel for this purpose.
What would be a nice outfit please - rod & Reel & Braid??
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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2010, 04:42:20 PM »
I would love to do this dropshot stuff at Santa maria & Hells Gate.
I must invest in a good rod and reel for this purpose.
What would be a nice outfit please - rod & Reel & Braid??
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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 04:47:31 PM »
7.2 H Bass rod that can cast 1oz with a 3000 spinning reel and 10lb braid
Thanks Mike
I will look into that
I can then while my Big Bait Rod is in the rod holder on the beach =
play around in the deep water channel with the dropshot stuff.
Can be lots of fun I think.
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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 04:50:03 PM »
Thanks Mike
I will look into that
I can then while my Big Bait Rod is in the rod holder on the beach =
play around in the deep water channel with the dropshot stuff.
Can be lots of fun I think.
Carlos
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Yes and use it from the boat, perhaps a slightly heavier set up with 15lb will work
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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 04:55:01 PM »
Yes and use it from the boat, perhaps a slightly heavier set up with 15lb will work
Thanks Mike
Great idea and then something new to try out at my spot
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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 06:25:40 PM »
Thanks Mike
Great idea and then something new to try out at my spot
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I am definitely bringing tackle and lures to try this out at your spot! It is a lot of fun, and very rewarding too.

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 06:28:15 PM »

I am definitely bringing tackle and lures to try this out at your spot! It is a lot of fun, and very rewarding too.
Do that please Nico
I could and am very prepared to learn from you
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2010, 12:09:28 AM »
Yes and use it from the boat, perhaps a slightly heavier set up with 15lb will work

which line exactly do u recommend? i have a daiwa exceller 4000.

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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2010, 12:14:39 AM »
which line exactly do u recommend? i have a daiwa exceller 4000.

thanks

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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2010, 06:13:41 PM »
For the Santa Maria area, defintely get yourself some Blue Pepper Neon and Anchovy colour Jerk Shads, for some reason these colours really fire the fish up as opposed to the brighter less natural colours... 5 and 7 inch
Also get some smelt colours in the smaller 3 inch sizes for smaller inshore species ( greenspots, bigeyes, blacktips etc )

Like FA, I love blue neon/pearl for plastics, that will take most species, so if you stick closely with these colours, you'll be sorted. 

The McCarthy range is awesome, nice and tough, locally made, and super well priced and perfect for pelagics and Kingies etc.

Be sure to pack a few packs of Gulps though too, as these can prove more effective on bottomfish etc due to their scenting/flavour.
 

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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2010, 06:48:14 PM »
For the Santa Maria area, defintely get yourself some Blue Pepper Neon and Anchovy colour Jerk Shads, for some reason these colours really fire the fish up as opposed to the brighter less natural colours... 5 and 7 inch
Also get some smelt colours in the smaller 3 inch sizes for smaller inshore species ( greenspots, bigeyes, blacktips etc )

Like FA, I love blue neon/pearl for plastics, that will take most species, so if you stick closely with these colours, you'll be sorted. 

The McCarthy range is awesome, nice and tough, locally made, and super well priced and perfect for pelagics and Kingies etc.

Be sure to pack a few packs of Gulps though too, as these can prove more effective on bottomfish etc due to their scenting/flavour.
Thanks Andre
Like you can see here - myself and Ernest will be getting into fishing from the beach at Santa Maria this season.
All new stuff for us.
Best regards
and have a nice evening
Carlos
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Re: Paddle tails or Jerk shad for kingies?
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2010, 08:18:28 AM »
Thanks Andre
Like you can see here - myself and Ernest will be getting into fishing from the beach at Santa Maria this season.
All new stuff for us.
Best regards
and have a nice evening
Carlos
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