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Title: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on May 27, 2012, 07:00:01 pm
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Here is a Comprehensive Photographic Tutorial on how to Service and Maintain a Shimano Sustain FG5000.
This tutorial could be used for all the Sustain models - bar minor differences, they are pretty similar.

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DO NOT unscrew the 2 smaller screws! They open up the Anti-reverse bearing with it's springs and parts.


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At this point, you might choose to stop, because from here onwards, the Service becomes fairly complex and tricky.
With the gearbox exposed, you can use a toothbrush soaked in Benzine to remove all old grease, and dirt. Once done, allow to dry and regrease thoroughly.

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For those who want to go further into a detailed service... Let's go!

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Remove the Retainer plate at the back of the reel.

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The Worm gear and Bushing

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Clean all parts in Benzine, either soaking or scrubbing with a toothbrush. Allow to dry properly, then brush generously with grease.


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RE-ASSEMBLY - Put it back together!!

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Now for the Drive Gear...


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Regrease and replace the Main bearing on the Drive gear

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Awesome...


Now... for those who want to take it a step further....

HANDLE SERVICE

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All pretty straight forward. No great problem to service the Handle.


DRAG WASHERS



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Also pretty simple.
These are oiled felt washers. Do not grease them, they were meant to be oiled with a quality oil.



Now for the LINE ROLLER - A spot on most reels that is most often sadly neglected.

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The parts that make up the Line Roller...

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To re-assemble, slide the bearing into the Grey Bushing from the lipped side. Then slide the Bushing into the Line roller from the thick side.
NB:
The Thicker side of the Bushing and the Line Roller both face the Screw side of the assembly.
Before assembling this system, lube all the parts with a good Oil.




THE OSCILLATING SLIDER



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THE BAIL ARM MECHANISM

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Now you can unscrew the top screw...

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Be careful that you don't lose the CLICK PIN AND SPRING WHEN OPENING!!

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Now you can thoroughly clean the Rotor of any beachsand and dirt. Scrub all parts with Benzine, and regrease lightly.

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Now that's what you call a thorough Service!!

All done...!

BEARING SIZES IN THE SUSTAIN:

You won't find this info anywhere....  :hehe:

Pinion Gear -
Inside Pinion Gear -
RHS Plate -
LHS Plate -
Handle knob inside -
Handle Knob outer -
Drive SHaft -
Bail Roller -

Wormgear Back bushing -

If you're interested in getting this Info, send me a PM.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on May 28, 2012, 03:37:06 pm
The schematics...
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Poenskop on May 28, 2012, 04:32:59 pm
 :win: This will come in very useful in the future. Can't believe that bearing got damaged so quickly. It just shows that you need to service your reel out of the box.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Sailor on May 28, 2012, 04:40:33 pm
Thanks Reefz. Great tutorial as usual. What are the weak points of the FG 5000.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: WalkersKiller on May 28, 2012, 04:48:07 pm
Awesome Reefz  :+ cred:
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on May 28, 2012, 04:51:22 pm
:win: This will come in very useful in the future. Can't believe that bearing got damaged so quickly. It just shows that you need to service your reel out of the box.

Ya for sure Louis... a bit of grease in the frame would have sorted that quickly.


Thanks Reefz. Great tutorial as usual. What are the weak points of the FG 5000.

Will be doing a review of the Stradic and Sustain in the near future. Off hand, there aren't any "weakpoints" as such, in this reel, it's pretty awesome! It's the smoothest reel I have ever felt, but I will go through the reasons for this in the next article.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Sailor on May 28, 2012, 05:11:37 pm
I thought so as well when I saw the photos. Thanks
 
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Sailor on May 28, 2012, 05:30:36 pm
Rough estimate on cost?
 
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on May 28, 2012, 05:34:44 pm
RR R3000
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Sailor on May 28, 2012, 05:38:32 pm
Thanks. Receiver owes me quite a bit and I am looking for a new  :cg: . A bit pricey but I think I will spoil myself.
 
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Lenny on October 28, 2012, 10:44:47 am
Super Tut as per usual! (clap)
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on June 13, 2013, 03:40:26 pm
Ok, have upgraded this thread...

This is now a comprehensive service manual on the Sustain. Can be applied to the Stradic as well, as both reels are quite similar.
It now consists of:

120 Photo's including added:

Bail ARM service
Line Roller service
Entire Gearbox dismantling and re-assembly
Oscillating slider
Anti-reverse Mechanism
Handle Service
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Catch1963 on November 15, 2013, 07:56:13 pm
Awesome tutorial. Would not have coped without these pictures and explanations. Many thanks. My reel feels awesome again but I will need a new bearing soon on the small end of the pinion gear. I will pm you for sizes. Thanks once again.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on November 18, 2013, 03:54:48 pm
Awesome tutorial. Would not have coped without these pictures and explanations. Many thanks. My reel feels awesome again but I will need a new bearing soon on the small end of the pinion gear. I will pm you for sizes. Thanks once again.

Glad to be of help. Sent you a PM.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: ST(d) on November 18, 2013, 04:38:45 pm
Thanks a million Reefman, Was dreading sending my reel in or having to service it myself. this will help BIG TIME.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Tich on April 22, 2014, 07:36:07 pm
Thanks brilliant work  I had my sustain for two years lovely reel .I  just replaced main gear and pinion gear . They were really worn I was wondering if I should have done the idle gear  I did not notice any ware the  paw was slightly worn any comments.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on April 23, 2014, 06:17:59 am
Tich,  :welc:
Without looking at the reel, it's difficult to say whether the Idle gear needs replacing as well? It doesn't take as much force as the Main and Pinion gears, so it should be fine.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Tich on April 23, 2014, 07:50:17 am
Thanks so much it seems to very smooth. I also replaced the lower worm gear bush with a bearing. I must say the reel has been amazing I drop shot almost every weekend wading. Seen to Mozambique outing so was not surprised when I had to replace the set of gears. Great tutorial you put together.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: Darshur on May 10, 2017, 05:26:45 pm
Hi Reefman, Apologies for hijacking the thread but as comprehensive as this tutorial is, I know i will mess it up somehow. Any suggestions regarding having my sustain SA10000FG serviced by a reputable person in JHB?
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on May 10, 2017, 08:56:15 pm
The only person I wouldtake it to in Gauteng is Craig Neil at CDS Angling in Centurion.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: Darshur on May 11, 2017, 08:48:40 am
Appreciate the feedback Reefman, I will drop Craig a mail.

Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: Kevins on June 14, 2017, 06:34:43 pm
I'm doff- I need to PM Reefman but don't know how - I need help locating a part on my handle spindle - RD 10683 - it's a 10 bucks washer but Rapala in joburg "only imports whole handle at 900 bucks" - my reel has very low hours and the washer should not of failed anyway....
Cheers
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on June 15, 2017, 09:05:18 am
Can't help you if Rapala don't supply it.
Maybe try find a replacement in your hardware...

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Title: Re: Shimano Sustain FG 5000 Service - Photographic Tutorial
Post by: Kevins on September 24, 2017, 06:51:39 pm
anyone know how I PM reefman for the bearing sizes... I can't seem to work it out ....
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: Kevins on September 24, 2017, 06:54:25 pm
Can u send me [size=78%]the bearing sizes - I want to replace mine with ceramic sealed units...[/size]
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Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on September 25, 2017, 06:44:10 am
Here we go.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: Kevins on September 25, 2017, 03:05:23 pm
Shot - I am about to order stainless sealed ceramic bearings from a company in USA - which in your opinion are the critical bearings to replace in the sustain 5000?
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on September 26, 2017, 07:57:05 am
All except Pawl bushing and the handle bearings. And you don't really need Ceramic bearings in a fixed spool reel, there are no high speed bearings necessary like in a multiplier casting reel.
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: CRANKMAN on August 22, 2018, 12:02:45 pm
Just followed you tut' and completed a service on my Sustain. Easy as pie when following your steps. Thanks.  :+ cred:
Title: Re: Shimano Sustain 5000FG - Service and Maintenance Tutorial
Post by: REEFMAN on August 22, 2018, 12:16:25 pm
Glad it helped Sean!