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Title: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 07, 2012, 01:45:19 PM
This tutorial is designed to help the beginner and those wanting to improve their casting.

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/title.jpg)

What follows below is a summary of my experiences. My best tuition I ever got was from a chap by the name of Mark Lewis, who is a member of Thresher Angling club in GP. He is probably one of the best Casting coaches around. Other info comes from John Holden, www.johnholden.co.uk (http://www.johnholden.co.uk) the UK Casting Champ -   he has written many excellent articles, books and videos on Casting.   The only problem with many of the ideas that come from International   guru's is that their style often does not suit the South African way of angling. For instance, the Pendulum cast that most of the world casting records are set with, is only suitable for edibles fishing - casting sinkers of 5oz and less. The immense force generated by a full Pendulum cast has broken many a rod in South African conditions when heavy sinkers are used.

The facts are -

• Those that can cast further, generally catch more fish
• Being able to cast further gives you more choice of where to fish
• It is easy to cast more than 100m if you follow a few simple rules

At the outset, Casting is difficult in the sense that you have to work at it, and there are no shortcuts to becoming a proficient caster. Practice makes perfect.

What is the secret?

Knowing how to make a rod work is the basis of every successful casting style. Distance doesn't necessarily come from brute force, rather from knowing how to load a rod and to use the characteristics of a rod to propel your sinker.

What determines the distance a sinker will travel? What it boils down to is the speed of the rod tip at release.
Several factors will determine this:

In all of these factors we are assuming that the rod, reel, line and sinker weight are balanced to a position where they can work to your advantage.
We need to remember that a sinker can only travel as fast as the reel allows line off it. Any disturbance in allowing line to travel freely off the spool of the reel will affect the distance of the cast. This is where 'balancing' the equipment falls into place.

Line travelling through air is affected by wind resistance, causing drag on the line, slowing it down. Therefore the greater the diameter of the line, the more drag through the air. Larger diameter line will need a larger sinker weight to produce the same required force on the spool. Likewise, a small sinker will not load a heavy rod properly. All these factors need to be balanced before you can progress.


BACK TO BASICS!

The best way to modify your casting technique is to get back to basics. Learn how to load a rod properly.
The best way to teach your muscles the theory behind this is to learn the Off-the-Ground Cast. Now while this method will be impractical to use while actually fishing, it will teach you the basics of Casting, giving you a good foundation on which to build whatever method of Casting you use to actually fish with.


Off the Ground casting  (OTG) will teach you:

Once you have mastered the 2 techniques of OTG casting, then you can move on to the "South African Cast", a modification of the Hatteras Cast, a kind of half Pendulum Cast, where a back swing is used to begin. This is the method the vast majority of League anglers use in our country.


Off-the-ground (OTG) basics

You may have noticed that all good casters are relaxed. Their swings seem effortless. Certainly they swing the rod through a
powerful arc that drives the tackle skywards, but they never seem to strain themselves. The secret is that they use their whole bodies to supply power
and to increase the rod arc.

The strongest muscles are in the legs, waist, shoulders and back. All athletic throwing techniques - hammer, javelin, shot and discus - make fullest use of them because they are so much more powerful than the arms alone. Even a good golf swing incorporates weight transfer and timing to get good results.

In simple terms, wind yourself up into a coiled spring, lay out the tackle, then unwind through the cast. Performed this way, immense power and momentum can be achieved through using your body and weight transfer.

Here is the best example of what we're talking about. The World casting champ, Danny Moeskops, coiling up... and putting one out to 273m!!

danny moeskops casting@steyning-april 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cui17RH3Ys#ws)

So let's get started then...

OTG CAST SETUP

There are 2 methods of OTG casting. One is the Low Rod compression with the sinker straight out behind you on the ground, and the other is High Rod compression, with the sinker behind you but underneath your rod.

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/sinker%20position.jpg)

Begin with the Low Compression method - it is MUCH easier to get right than the High Compression.

DO NOT use the High compression method with any weight larger than a 5oz - unless you're sure - you WILL break your rod!!
Most anglers using the High Compression method for the first time are amazed at how heavy the rod loads through the Cast. Most will also have sore backs and muscles the next day!!

Use a Medium rated rod (4-6oz) with a 5oz sinker.


Stand with an open stance, slightly wider than your shoulders.
Lay the rod out behind you with the sinker drop about 1m long straight behind you.
Point your left elbow upwards towards an imaginary target 45deg above you.
Move your weight entirely onto your Right foot and lean backwards. You should be able to stand on one foot.

In this way, we are loading the spring... a tightly coiled spring, just waiting to be let loose!


(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/CAST%20TUT.jpg)

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/CAST%201.jpg)


The Cast starts by turning your head forwards and looking at your imaginary target 45deg above you.
As you turn your head, your weight starts to follow your turn, uncoiling the spring.
It is Important not to use your arms in any conscious way. Your arms should only follow the weight shift.

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/CAST%202.jpg)




As your arms begin to follow the weight shift, the hips and legs rotate towards the target... the spring begins to unwind!

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/CAST%203.jpg)


Once your arms are moving, and the rod passes the horizontal plane, you will feel the rod get slightly heavy.
Only now do you actively bring on the power with your arms.
Hammer through to your imaginary 45deg target with your Right arm, while pulling towards you with your left.

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/CAST%204.jpg)


Complete the cast by following the sinker through the sky with your rod tip.

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/CAST%205.jpg)



Here's a Video explaining it...

Off the Ground Casting Tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLDycRyOm_w&list=UUwTE6I9iHLiAPFUjkUVy2Fg&index=2&feature=plcp#ws)



This is how John Holden explains it....
(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/Holden%20pic%201.jpg)



The Hammer
It's important to get this right.


(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/hammer.jpg)


Once you've got the Low Compression cast under your belt, you can move on to the High Compresssion Cast.
Instead of laying the sinker straight out directly behind you, flip it back under your rod. This is an awesome way of learning how to load the rod properly.
In fact, it loads the rod so well, that I cast 30m past my normal cast using this method.

NB: Do not try this with anything more than a 5oz sinker on a 4-6oz rod. The force placed on the rod is immense, as you will find out!

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/casting%20tut/CAST%20TUT%20under.jpg)




Casting on auto-pilot can be disconcerting, but you must fight the natural urge to over-analyse
and control every step. Think simple. The entire cast can be summed up in a few key words:

• Identify the TARGET
• TURN away from the sea
• Lay out the TACKLE
• Slide your WEIGHT over to the left foot while turning your HEAD towards the target
• FEEL the rod compress
• HAMMER the cast into the sky
Title: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 07, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
Once you've got all the above working well, you should now be casting 100m+! And you should have a great foundation of the mechanics behind a Cast and how to apply it your own style.

Now you need to convert this foundation into a working method that you can use to fish with. One that you're comfortable with.

As has been stated previously, most league anglers use the SA Cast. This method uses a drop of 1.5-2m. Using all the above principles, instead of the sinker laying on the ground, it is swung back behind you. As the sinker reaches terminal height, (parallel with the ground), the head turns and the cast starts.

As you become more proficient in using this method, you need to increase your swing arc a bit at a time - instead of swinging the sinker back straight, swing it out behind you at an angle - the longer the arc of the rod, the greater the speed of the rod tip at release. If the direction of the cast is 12 o'clock, swing the sinker to 7o'clock, then try 8'clock. As the arc gets bigger, so it becomes more difficult to time the release properly.

Here is a video showing the old fart way of doing it...

SA Swing cast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJVmsfOBCIY&feature=youtu.be#ws)


And this is what you should aim for... Wesley Rapson showing good technique and pure talent!

Wesley Rapson casting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-4GNVPYet4#)


Hopefully this will help someone!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Half-Pint on May 07, 2012, 08:37:58 PM
Reefz! Do you ever stop?  :shk :shk yet another awesome article! (clap) (clap)
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: John F on May 07, 2012, 08:47:48 PM
Great article Reefz!

 (clap)

 :+ cred: for the taking the time to offer us a well researched and put together tut!

Thank you!

 :FST:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 07, 2012, 08:55:52 PM
PS: Forgot to give Credit to Mike Pike for the Videos! Thanks Mike.
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Prego on May 07, 2012, 09:02:57 PM
Sleep much?!  w;k

Incredible tut!  :+ cred:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 07, 2012, 09:05:19 PM
 :win: ... excellent tutorial ,  :bow: . .  (clap)   (clap) .
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 07, 2012, 09:07:30 PM
PS: Forgot to give Credit to Mike Pike for the Videos! Thanks Mike.
         
              No problem at all , time to get me one of those GoPro cameras .... :-)
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Lichia amia on May 07, 2012, 11:07:25 PM
  Another piece of brilliance !!!!! Standing ovation  Reefz   :udman: :+ cred: :+ cred: :+ cred:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Sailor on May 07, 2012, 11:25:35 PM
Reefz, absolutely wonderfull.  :tkx: :udman:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Manuel Junior on May 07, 2012, 11:30:45 PM
Very Nice article Reefz!!! (clap) (clap) (clap) :+ cred: :+ cred: :+ cred:
 :appr: :udman:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: strandloper on May 08, 2012, 12:22:15 AM
Absolutely AMAZING tutorial Reefs!

 :+ cred: (clap) :rck"

By far the most comprehensive on casting I have seen anywhere.

 :FST: :uarocks
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: SAfish on May 08, 2012, 07:51:47 AM
 (clap) (clap) (clap) Another great article from the Master!  :+ cred: :resp:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Ziggy on May 08, 2012, 07:59:41 AM
I have trawled the internet on this topic before and found too much information - this tut puts it all together in an understandable way - thanks!


Any tips on casting a grinder with braid to get better distance? Same techniques - I am talking about lure fishing.


Particularly, how to cast a light lure like a camp worm on a small stick - and a rapala on a bigger stick. These are my two problems - I feel that I can never get far enough
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Kumz on May 08, 2012, 08:00:27 AM
 :happ: :win: :FST: :uarocks .. Reefer and Pike ...  :udman:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: WalkersKiller on May 08, 2012, 08:03:11 AM
 :+ cred: Reefz absolutely awesome port  (clap) (clap) thank you!

 :FST:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Willie on May 08, 2012, 08:07:28 AM
Great post Reefz  :+ cred:  This is more complicated than a golf swing  :hehe:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 08, 2012, 08:19:53 AM
I have trawled the internet on this topic before and found too much information - this tut puts it all together in an understandable way - thanks!


Any tips on casting a grinder with braid to get better distance? Same techniques - I am talking about lure fishing.


Particularly, how to cast a light lure like a camp worm on a small stick - and a rapala on a bigger stick. These are my two problems - I feel that I can never get far enough

Ziggy... ultra-light lure angling doesn't use any of the above techniques, (weight transfer etc), the tackle is just too light. With light lures, it's very difficult to load the rod blank. Rather, the rod loading comes through developing a wristy flick action with the rod tip... using speed of the rod tip to flick the lure out.
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 08, 2012, 08:21:17 AM
Great post Reefz  :+ cred:  This is more complicated than a golf swing  :hehe:

Nowhere near as complicated Willie! There is MUCH more room for margin of error in casting than striking a golf ball far and straight!!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Fritz on May 08, 2012, 08:41:45 AM
 :+ cred:  To you Tony, allways nice to read your posts. Very informative as allways. (clap)
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Ziggy on May 08, 2012, 08:45:52 AM
I have trawled the internet on this topic before and found too much information - this tut puts it all together in an understandable way - thanks!


Any tips on casting a grinder with braid to get better distance? Same techniques - I am talking about lure fishing.


Particularly, how to cast a light lure like a camp worm on a small stick - and a rapala on a bigger stick. These are my two problems - I feel that I can never get far enough

Ziggy... ultra-light lure angling doesn't use any of the above techniques, (weight transfer etc), the tackle is just too light. With light lures, it's very difficult to load the rod blank. Rather, the rod loading comes through developing a wristy flick action with the rod tip... using speed of the rod tip to flick the lure out.


Exactly how I have been doing it - thanks!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: LUPO on May 08, 2012, 08:46:54 AM
Tony, you are truly the  :ult:!!!!   :+ cred:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: shagnrelease on May 08, 2012, 09:07:35 AM
Wow, lots of work here, great article!!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Himal on May 08, 2012, 09:08:24 AM
 (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap) (clap)
Awesome stuff, this is what keep UA above the rest
 :uarocks
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Homie on May 08, 2012, 09:27:33 AM
 :happ: :happ: :happ:

 :resp: :resp: :resp:

Another Quality post from the Master !!!!!

Thanks Tony !
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: deezynking on May 08, 2012, 09:39:46 AM
shot reefs.... :shre:
super stuff, def gna practice the hammer excercise.. wow :+ cred:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 08, 2012, 09:43:53 AM
Master... Schmaster! Definitely NOT a master. Just have a knack of putting things down in a simple and understandable way, that's all! But thanks for the nice comments guys!
 :tkx:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: peterblace on May 08, 2012, 09:48:44 AM
thanks for the info Reef... :+ cred:

I believe it's a hijack...but how does this apply to a light tackle spinning rod?
what are the similarities (I believe none) for the casting with a 8ft rod?

appreciate your feedback
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: woerman on May 08, 2012, 09:51:32 AM
WOW

One of the best How to's I've seen!!!

 :FST: :FST: :FST:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Zetti on May 08, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Great post thanks Tony!

 :win: 
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: LUPO on May 08, 2012, 10:11:25 AM
Definition of a MASTER

Noun: 1.A man who has people working for him, esp. servants or slaves.  :hehe:
           2.A ship or boat with a specified number of masts: "a three-master".
 
 
 
Adjective: Having or showing very great skill or proficiency.  :udman:
 
 
Verb: Acquire complete knowledge or skill in (an accomplishment, technique, or art).  (clap) :udman:
 
 
Synonyms: noun.  lord - boss - teacher - owner - maestro
adjective.  main - principal - chief - leading - masterful
verb.  overcome - control - overpower - manage - dominate
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 08, 2012, 10:15:42 AM
thanks for the info Reef... :+ cred:

I believe it's a hijack...but how does this apply to a light tackle spinning rod?
what are the similarities (I believe none) for the casting with a 8ft rod?

appreciate your feedback

This is a Rock and Surf Casting tut. As I said in post #17, you can't apply this to light tackle. Light and Ultra-light tackle fishing involves generating rod load through the speed of flicking from the wrist.
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 08, 2012, 10:16:53 AM
Definition of a MASTER

Noun: 1.A man who has people working for him, esp. servants or slaves.  :hehe:
           2.A ship or boat with a specified number of masts: "a three-master".
 
 
 
Adjective: Having or showing very great skill or proficiency.  :udman:
 
 
Verb: Acquire complete knowledge or skill in (an accomplishment, technique, or art).  (clap) :udman:
 
 
Synonyms: noun.  lord - boss - teacher - owner - maestro
adjective.  main - principal - chief - leading - masterful
verb.  overcome - control - overpower - manage - dominate

Indeed. Applicable to me: none of the above!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Skaap Tjop on May 08, 2012, 10:53:56 AM
Simple, understandable and effective... :corrct: 
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: J-Rock on May 08, 2012, 11:44:18 AM
Phenomenal article Reefz.  :shre:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: peterblace on May 08, 2012, 11:44:38 AM
thanks for the info Reef... :+ cred:

I believe it's a hijack...but how does this apply to a light tackle spinning rod?
what are the similarities (I believe none) for the casting with a 8ft rod?

appreciate your feedback

This is a Rock and Surf Casting tut. As I said in post #17, you can't apply this to light tackle. Light and Ultra-light tackle fishing involves generating rod load through the speed of flicking from the wrist.
:blush:
ooopppssss...sorry and thanks again for the info
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: boskabeljou on May 08, 2012, 11:52:25 AM
 :win: .......for this you need a bucket. :hehe: :hehe:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: BigG on May 08, 2012, 03:00:59 PM
Nice Tutorial Reefman  :tkx:
Rory recently showed me the off the ground method as i was struggling a bit with my heavy rod and a 10oz sinker
It works a charm and has definately improved my casting technique, it feels more natural now
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 08, 2012, 03:49:41 PM
Nice Tutorial Reefman  :tkx:
Rory recently showed me the off the ground method as i was struggling a bit with my heavy rod and a 10oz sinker
It works a charm and has definately improved my casting technique, it feels more natural now

HEY! The Ultimate Hero is BACK!!  :welc: Nice to see you onboard Gavin!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: BigG on May 08, 2012, 04:02:02 PM
Thanks Tony
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: adam on May 08, 2012, 07:01:43 PM
Great article Reefman, really awesome.   :+ cred:     :win:


One thing I've always noticed when it comes to casting is that "practice makes perfect"


I've seen guys with the most awkward casting style swing a sinker and big bait a mile.  Then guys with the most perfect swing gets one over-wind after another.  Practicing under fishing conditions is the only way to truly perfect your casting.  Even if you are an "accomplished casting machine" like Tony   :hehe: , don't expect to pick up a new setup and get maximum range on your first outing.  It has to be "broken in first."  (and no, you don't need a shitkicker-cowboy hat like Homie to break in this mustang.)   Once you are comfortable with your casting abilities, try a new technique, etc, etc.

I remember when I first started casting with my grandwave - children and sensitive adults weren't allowed near me because of the  :cens .  Now I can comfortably cast even a 30cm live mullet without even thinking what to do.

So, like everything else - practice, practice, practice!
 
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Naruto on May 08, 2012, 07:14:39 PM
Wow! Awesome stuff Tony! +Cred!!!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Habib on May 08, 2012, 09:37:05 PM
im getting kinda tired of saying "this is the best tut i ever read " when it comes to you tony.
This is the best tut i ever read. legend +cred

i certainly learnt a helluva lot from it and i know for a fact it will improve my casting!!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Ziggy on May 08, 2012, 11:33:49 PM
Great tut - except for that overwind that gave me a bit of nausea!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 09, 2012, 07:14:49 AM
im getting kinda tired of saying "this is the best tut i ever read " when it comes to you tony.
This is the best tut i ever read. legend +cred

i certainly learnt a helluva lot from it and i know for a fact it will improve my casting!!

Hahaha Zeyn... coming from one of the best Surfcasters around, that's a huge feather in the cap!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Wynand13 on May 11, 2012, 10:34:18 AM
 :+ cred: :shre: Great article
Ive noticed that with my old 16" Conoflex rods (that I will not change) when I really put my back into it, I cast a few hundred metres, however the strop seem to take a "SOLO" any tips on that? Ive had this issue for about 20 years now and can say that I manage to rocket at least 2 strops per day.... I have used stronger line however I am sure I am not alone...
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: saltwater dog on May 11, 2012, 10:57:39 AM
great article man, very informative :+ cred:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 11, 2012, 11:28:51 AM
:+ cred: :shre: Great article
Ive noticed that with my old 16" Conoflex rods (that I will not change) when I really put my back into it, I cast a few hundred metres, however the strop seem to take a "SOLO" any tips on that? Ive had this issue for about 20 years now and can say that I manage to rocket at least 2 strops per day.... I have used stronger line however I am sure I am not alone...

Do you mean that you're snapping off traces when casting?
Question: Are you using a Leader? If not, that's your problem.
If you're using a leader, then they shouldn't be breaking, then the problem is your knots.
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Wynand13 on May 11, 2012, 11:40:11 AM



Do you mean that you're snapping off traces when casting?
Question: Are you using a Leader? If not, that's your problem.
If you're using a leader, then they shouldn't be breaking, then the problem is your knots.


Yes I use leaders I use swivels with snap clips  that I just connect to my trace as I brebait them remove ones that come out of  water hook new ones cast. This just gives me time to rebait at my time while  the lines are in the water. However I have managed to replace the eyes on the  rods etc as I thought this could be the problem, I make sure I lubricate the  knots and use the Fishermans knot.. However I still lose it every now and  then,,,
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 11, 2012, 12:03:54 PM
Wynand... go through this post on casting a multiplier... you should be using these techniques with leaders and knots.

http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=9720.0 (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=9720.0)

You should be using a 7-9m leader, with your mainline doubled and tied as shown.
The old Fisherman's knot is a very poor alternative to what is available nowadays, especially if you're tying your leader to your mainline with it!!

PS: Please don't try the High compression Off the Ground cast with the old Conoflex rods, I don't think they are strong enough to withstand the casting force of an Off the ground High compression cast.
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Wynand13 on May 11, 2012, 12:14:56 PM
Thanks, I will try this, havent used my Penn in ages and sort of given up on it, I get distance with my other reels and are happy using them..
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on May 11, 2012, 12:18:08 PM
Thanks, I will try this, havent used my Penn in ages and sort of given up on it, I get distance with my other reels and are happy using them..

You must pop in to one of our GP Socials, we can run through the whole setup with you...
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Wynand13 on May 11, 2012, 12:22:58 PM
I definately do the next one thanks. We have the fly social on Sunday.. But will do my best for the next one...
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Half-Pint on May 11, 2012, 12:31:17 PM
Wynand is it not perhaps the snap swivel opening up? I had the same experience at Rietvlei where putting your back into the cast results in those small snap swivels opening up.
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Wynand13 on May 11, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
Half-Pint
To be honest it could be...  duh Will look into this next time I go out...
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: T-50 on May 17, 2012, 06:58:51 PM
 :shre: great tutorial
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: ebrahim on June 03, 2012, 07:49:45 PM
Nice Thread Reefman!


 :+ cred:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: ProKayak on July 26, 2012, 03:30:03 PM
 :udman: :+ cred:  great reading material from MR ULTIMATE ANGLING AGAIN!!!!!


tnx Reefs
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: craigb on July 31, 2012, 06:52:09 PM
tried this exercise today and i must say it takes some getting used to.will keep at it.great tut. :win:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Moolies on August 01, 2012, 12:06:15 PM
Hi Reefz,


Thanks for this info :+ cred: to you. [size=78%] [/size]Is there any way you can pm this info to me or can i down load it so i can take home with me?
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on August 01, 2012, 12:58:08 PM
Moolies

Best way is to just go File >Save as > type in a name for the file and then save it to your hard drive. Copy it to a flash disk and put it on your home computer.
Then you can study it offline. You don't need to be connected to the Internet - but then obviously the video's won't work, as they are all on Youtube. But you can download the video's separately.
For Internet Explorer, download "Keepvid" - a programme that allows you to save youtube video's to your hard drive.
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Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Sylvester on August 07, 2012, 12:41:30 PM
I like that hammer visualisation.......makes sense! Its going to be a 4 month lay-off without casting a line....I'm gonna have to re-learn a lot of the action for the heavy rods!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on August 07, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
I like that hammer visualisation.......makes sense! Its going to be a 4 month lay-off without casting a line....I'm gonna have to re-learn a lot of the action for the heavy rods!

Was the best thing I ever learnt with my casting... I walk round the house with my imaginary hammer punching nails into the air!! Everyone thinks I'm  :nuts:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: ashley on August 07, 2012, 03:22:51 PM



I'm applying the technique & I am impressed  :tkx:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: pochee on January 07, 2013, 12:12:00 PM
@reefman
This has been the best advice, and best illustrated guide that I have come across :udman: :+ cred:


I finally broke through the 100m barrier with this yesterday with a big weight :happ:
I just have one question though, How do you prevent the line from cutting (burning) into your wrist?
I got a nasty burn when the line sped off the reel and cut into my right wrist :blush:
I eventually resorted to tying a packet around my right forearm , but that will just be impractical at the coast - Don't want the packet tearing off, and ending up in the ocean.
Any advice would be appreciated...
Thanks
Pochee
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Homie on January 07, 2013, 12:13:57 PM
Hey Pochee !

 :welc:

Thats a problem we all have had at some point ! get one of those sweatbands that makes you look like you should be on Body Beat !
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: pochee on January 07, 2013, 12:25:41 PM
Lol :-) 


maybe a nice leotard to go with that as well :hehe:
But honestly, that is a nifty idea. Will get one this afternoon.
Thanks a mill :tkx:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on January 07, 2013, 12:41:09 PM
Ya, when I'm practicing casting, I always wear a 4inch long wristband (sweatband) on my right wrist. Most seasoned anglers have some serious scar tissue on their right wrist!!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Big Danny on January 29, 2014, 12:16:40 AM
Hi Reefman
Nice read there about casting ,its nice to see our way of casting is working its way, and gets intrest in SA
Just the part of John Holden and the Hammer is a bad example.

Keep up the work

Big Danny 
the Belgian Bomber

Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on January 29, 2014, 06:44:29 AM
Hey hey! Danny Moeskops! You honour us with your presence sir!  :welc:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: WalkersKiller on January 29, 2014, 08:31:33 AM
 :welc:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: MIKE PIKE on January 29, 2014, 08:43:11 AM
 :welc: Danny .
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Sylvester on January 29, 2014, 08:56:54 AM
Huge welcome to the legend!!!!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Trevelly on March 17, 2014, 12:00:43 PM
Just a quick question guys, does your drag have an influence on the cast or not at all if so where should it be set at?
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: MIKE PIKE on March 17, 2014, 12:22:34 PM
Trevelly , no has no influence on a multiplier reel , although i would"nt leave it loose , i normally set my drag up to a medium setting anyway and only adjust it while fishing or on with a fish , on the multiplier when u set the clutch lever over for casting this disengages the spool from the drive gears (freespool ) to allow for casting , the cast control tensioner determines how much freespool on spool and then the brake control comes into play when casting and controlling spool speed , and of course the thumb .   
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Trevelly on March 17, 2014, 01:15:12 PM
Thanks Mike,  just one more question how tight or lose you set your cast control tensioner will determine the distance you going to get... still getting a lot of overwindes so I think I need to tighten it up and start over...
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: MIKE PIKE on March 17, 2014, 01:26:26 PM
Depending on the reel but as a general rule of thumb with a sinker and bait hanging off the end and the clutch disengaged the cast control should be loosened enuff just to allow the sinker and bait to drop slowly to the ground , with more practise u can loosen it up more but then the thumb will have to work more during control of the spool /line in cast , obviously the heavier the sinker/bait the quicker the line peels off the spool in free spool , so its very fine and small adjustments to get the ratio correct to avoid excessive spool speed and overwinds , smooth controlled casts, no jerking it thru and a well set up cast control with thumb control and lots of practise will only improve your casting and give u confidence to really give it stick  and get better distances . 
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Trevelly on March 17, 2014, 01:31:09 PM
Thanks a lot Mike you've been off great help..  :tkx:
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Lofty on March 17, 2014, 01:33:05 PM
Hi Trevelly,the easiest way of setting it is to lift the tip of the rod,reel in excess line(till swivel is close to tip eye)then place your thumb on the spool and click over the cast lever,then release your thumb and let the bait & sinker drop to the ground,if the spool still spins after the sinker hit the ground then it's a bit too loose,tighten the cast control knob and repeat the steps...this should help with overwinds...I set mine so that when I click over the cast lever,the line peels off slowly and speeds up....hope this makes sense... w;k
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: MIKE PIKE on March 17, 2014, 01:37:36 PM
No problem at all Trevelly , what Lofty said as well... excellent  advice  , hope it all helps to sort out the dreaded "kraaines"  :-) 
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Trevelly on March 17, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
Thanks Lofty and Mike, I'll go and give it a try, and play with the setting...
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: ulua on August 23, 2014, 07:03:19 AM
Thanks Reefs for the tut trying to improve my casting distance and have been out measuring and testing on an rugby field.
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: eeceetee on November 27, 2014, 07:01:46 AM
Good morning Reefman,

I just want to thank you for all your casting tutorials (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/Smileys/goodsmiles/Winner.gif) .
I   have only started angling a few months ago and I am slowly getting the   casting right. At least I am not dumping the sinker on my toes anymore (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/Smileys/goodsmiles/happy10.gif) . And its all thanks to your tutorials. THANK YOU
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: REEFMAN on November 27, 2014, 07:02:35 AM
 :welc: ECT!
Glad to have helped!
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: fishatic on December 14, 2014, 07:58:56 PM
For those interested in light lure casting; have a look at the two youtube videos:

18g casting plug on 0.25mm mono / 0,38mm mono leader; Abu multiplier distances reached are in excess of 125m.

There is definitely place for techniques similar to those used for 5oz plus casting viz-a-viz weight transfer, drop adjustment  stance etc when throwing light stuff, not just flick...

Earlier on in this post Tony made mention of high vs low inertia casts i.e. placement of sinker relative to the rod; high inertia will assist in loading an otherwise "heavy" rod with a lighter weight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=61X9FBaJqcs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=61X9FBaJqcs)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y8MMyPaOXzE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y8MMyPaOXzE)

Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Gerhard on December 15, 2014, 05:53:34 AM
Casting the Blackhole Cape Cod Special 7,6G with 150g popper

Setting up

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Jakkals/Fishing/A3A2B4B2-87C7-442E-9E59-005733685DF9_zpsi9kcytrg.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Jakkals/media/Fishing/A3A2B4B2-87C7-442E-9E59-005733685DF9_zpsi9kcytrg.jpg.html)

Loading and launching

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Jakkals/Fishing/9EADF684-B525-4790-BF04-0111D105FA09_zpsz1ytdvhd.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Jakkals/media/Fishing/9EADF684-B525-4790-BF04-0111D105FA09_zpsz1ytdvhd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Improve your Casting 101
Post by: Gerhard on December 15, 2014, 05:56:30 AM
Launching the Blackhole Cape Cod 10,6H with a 130g popper

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Jakkals/Fishing/5872183C-D557-4262-85AA-F489A1F245DA_zpsufgi9zw9.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Jakkals/media/Fishing/5872183C-D557-4262-85AA-F489A1F245DA_zpsufgi9zw9.jpg.html)

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