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Title: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: SUPER ADMIN on March 20, 2012, 07:09:10 PM
(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/adverts/banners/Catch%20and%20release.jpg)

It is no secret that our fishing stocks are under severe threat.
A critical part of Ultimate Angling's ethos is to support sustainable fishing practices.



Limit your catch, don't catch your limit!


 
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Toppie on March 20, 2012, 07:30:50 PM
I support and will at all times do my utmost to comply with and promote the ethos of Ultimate Angling!
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Ziggy on March 20, 2012, 07:35:28 PM
I support and will at all times do my utmost to comply with and promote the ethos of Ultimate Angling!


I second that Toppie!
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Zetti on March 20, 2012, 08:39:36 PM
With you all the way Super!
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Sailor on March 20, 2012, 08:42:56 PM
Hi guys, this is the first time I am posting in more than 6 months. What a thread to come back to. Although I am in no state to fish after my long illness I fully support the ethos of UA. By the way I am recoveing very well and look forward to fishing again soon, Glad to be back.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Tyrone ter bruggen on March 20, 2012, 08:46:43 PM
Fully Comply and agree.
Where do I sign?
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Capt. Hook on March 20, 2012, 08:57:55 PM
As a Charter I support it, as myself I support it.
 
FA
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Capt. Hook on March 20, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
Hi guys, this is the first time I am posting in more than 6 months. What a thread to come back to. Although I am in no state to fish after my long illness I fully support the ethos of UA. By the way I am recoveing very well and look forward to fishing again soon, Glad to be back.
Glad you back Sailor, Glad you feeling so much better.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: SAfish on March 20, 2012, 09:27:03 PM
I support and commit myself to the Ethos of UA. I will do what it takes to help conserve our fishing stocks for future generations.

@Sailor, It is good to see you back on  :ult:  :yipee: :yipee:  :win: :udman: :appr: :resp:
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: MIKE PIKE on March 20, 2012, 09:37:49 PM
Same here i support catch and release and sustainability for future generations :win: .. Sailor , good to see you on the road to recovery  (clap) .
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Nikao on March 20, 2012, 09:58:25 PM
From a personal and business point I am 100% behind the UA Ethos. 
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: PH on March 21, 2012, 02:52:01 AM
I agree 100%
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: krissi on March 21, 2012, 08:03:45 AM
Absolutely 100% in support of this ethos  :uarocks
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: John F on March 21, 2012, 08:24:06 AM
Behind it 100%!
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Tommo on March 21, 2012, 10:51:52 AM
 (clap) My ethos exactly!
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: broken back on March 21, 2012, 11:00:40 AM
have personally tagged and release 181 fish with 6 of them being recaptured
tag no ja 2913
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: REEFMAN on March 21, 2012, 11:44:40 AM
have personally tagged and release 181 fish with 6 of them being recaptured
tag no ja 2913

Correct. Your last tag being made in 1998.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: adam on March 21, 2012, 11:52:08 AM
Great way to make a stand Admin!!!  Love it.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Timothy Scriven on March 21, 2012, 01:45:05 PM
Real men release!

Behind this 100%

Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: LUPO on March 21, 2012, 02:00:34 PM
100% behind it!!
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: jaenswart on March 21, 2012, 02:57:59 PM
I also support those values..
I release all billfish, and fish that are not good eating or not sustainable like kingies, Queenies, all tuna apart from YFT, all bottomfish, except the odd cob if we get it at Zini.
I do teach responsible fishing.
It's a fact that the feeling you feel after releasing a fish beats taking it out any day.

but I do need to add something that I have mentioned in the past.

I like fish, I eat fish, I take fish to eat too. Will keep doing so, but it will be responsible, and it will be from pelagic species that are fast growing like dorado and couta.

I'd rather eat fish that I have caught (sustainable methods) than release fish just to go eat it at ocean basket where you do not know how they caught it and by what method.

If this is in contrast to the UA ethos then so be it but I doubt it. (Admin ??)
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Capt. Hook on March 21, 2012, 03:29:15 PM
I agree with you Jean, nothing wrong with taking a fish for the pot in a responsible way.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: WalkersKiller on March 21, 2012, 04:07:13 PM
Behind that all the way!  :uarocks


@ Sailor: Great to have you back  :win:
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Willie on March 22, 2012, 08:34:19 AM
This has my complete support. JS go to John Dory they serve  :dor:  that is caught in a dam.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Geno on March 22, 2012, 08:38:44 AM
I'm in full support of the ethos!
I always release fish, unless they die during a fight, or sustain fatal injuries during the fight.
 :uarocks
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Prego on March 22, 2012, 09:08:40 AM
have personally tagged and release 181 fish with 6 of them being recaptured
tag no ja 2913

Correct. Your last tag being made in 1998.


Just keep digging the trench deeper!  duh
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: strandloper on March 22, 2012, 09:09:53 AM
THANK YOU Admin,

Fully support this.

Being responsible does not mean you cannot keep a fish for the pan or braai, but stocking a freezer: AIKONA!

O Ja. Welcome back Sailor!!
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: fedu on March 22, 2012, 10:24:15 AM
100% support for C&R.

100% support for sustainable fishing.

But if a fish dies during the fight please bring it back don't leave it floating around.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: eric cotton on March 22, 2012, 10:59:36 AM
I support this 100%
 
But let do it responsibility e.g like fighting a game fish (Natal snoek, couta, Queen fish and Tuna etc) on super light for two hours and then try and put it back in the water, and find it floating later. Best make sure that it realy still alive and strong by waiting a bit longer.
So what the best salution ban all light line fishing 2kg to 5kg ?
 
 Also what about all these fishing comps, one just have to go to a weight in and see all the small fish being weighed e.g 3-6kg couta, 1-3kg Queen makrel  and 1-4kg Bonnies etc
 So what best, don't enter comps? As most majour brands support them e.g Yamaha, Landrover etc
 
Will keep some fish for my pan and the children homes....
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Bwana on March 22, 2012, 11:02:49 AM
I agree 100% with this concept


LIMIT YOUR CATCH DON'T CATCH YOUR LIMIT


Beside I want my lightie to also enjoy offshore angling when he's old enough!
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: rofflign on April 03, 2012, 11:02:52 AM
Caught on Sunday, both fishies were released plus minus 70cm each, much more fullfilling than having them for dinner.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: REEFMAN on April 03, 2012, 11:10:02 AM
Nice Dave!!  :+ cred: on the releases!!  (clap)
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: WalkersKiller on April 03, 2012, 11:13:55 AM
 (clap) :+ cred: :resp:
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: rofflign on April 03, 2012, 11:19:51 AM
Thanks Reefs, it's refreshing to see UA advocating catch and release, definately has motivated me to be more pro-active. :uarocks
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Wave Garrick on August 17, 2012, 12:37:20 PM
Behind it 100%. Its really sad when you see people catching blacktail and stumpies that are smaller than your palm and putting it in the bag. I haven't even caught a steenie and by the time I go down to the coast again, they'll probably not be their anymore.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Debbie on August 17, 2012, 01:15:58 PM
As a Bass Angler I would say that 99% of our community is behind the Catch and Release Ethos. 
 
I was very surprised to see how many other disciplines are not, they will fill bakkies with freezers on the back with fish so they can sell them.  Very sad indeed
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: CASTSA on August 20, 2012, 07:02:17 AM
Live by the rule......................die by the rule ;-)

You all  :geet :rck"
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: Lenny on August 31, 2012, 03:47:21 PM
100% behind this !


 :+ cred: rofflign
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: mukiwa on August 31, 2012, 03:58:19 PM
100% behind ultimates ethos and so are my kids :appr:
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: RuanMoz on September 03, 2012, 01:10:45 PM
 :corrct:   100% agreed.
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: JeanS on August 27, 2021, 05:55:59 PM
As a Charter I support it, as myself I support it.
 
FA
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: JeanS on August 27, 2021, 05:56:30 PM
I agree
Title: Re: The Ethos of Ultimate Angling
Post by: stephenrplumb on August 31, 2021, 02:57:26 PM
The ethos here is all well and good, but I have noticed that many Ski boaters sell their fish? On occasion when we have been at Dbn Ski Boat Club there are guys asking if we have any fish to sell. I am not sure if they are just taking a chance, or they are used to getting fish?


I have fairly fundamental objections to guys with 1M+ rigs selling fish, but am probably slightly more tolerant of the guy battling to make ends meet, that sells a few fish or bait fish to enable them to live. I have a friend that used to have a commercial fishing license, but various BEE requirements made it so onerous, that he eventually sold everything and gave up on it. Based on this, I can understand why some guys get pissed and take advantage as the ANC have made it very difficult for such a person to make a viable venture of it.


Having said that, I am a hobbyist and this is one of my hobbies. As such I don’t expect anyone else to pay for my other hobbies, and so there is no reason to sell fish to pay for this hobby. We are probably not much of a danger to fish stocks anyway as we are only at the coast 2-3 times a year and when we are there, we regard it as a successful day if we boat one fish. We did manage to bag a couple of Darado and to be honest I don’t feel bad taking a small cool box of Fish up to JHB, but so far this tends to be unusual as we never seem to bag loads in a day and what we catch is usually scoffed quick smart by family and mates.


Based on what I see at the launch register, I am not convinced that Ski boaters represent a major problem. I know there was an article in this months ski boat magazine where a fellow that has been both a serious trawler grade fisherman as well as a recreational ski boater for many years opined that, recreational fisherman are responsible for the decline in the fish stocks?


I would like to see data supporting any contentions either way.


I think most of all, I would like to see some consistent enforcement efforts that would make me feel better about paying an annual fishing license fee that seems to achieve exactly nothing. We should have boat owning agencies enforcing fishing rules both near shore and further out, day and night, and credible data being used to make decisions on what should be allowed when.








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