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General Angling Topics => REEL TECH, SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE => Topic started by: REEFMAN on June 24, 2010, 08:40:23 PM
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Shimano Torium 30 Service
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BEARING SIZES
TORIUM 30
RHSide spool bearing 6x12x4
LH Side Plate bearing 4x11x4
Bottom Drive shaft bearing 5x9x3
Top Drive shaft bearing 10x15x4
Cast Control bushing NONE
Schematics TOR30
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Tony this remains one of your very best posts ever. Thanks :resp: (clap)
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Heres a question for all the reel gurus out there. I put carbontex in my torium and suddenly when I tightened the drag turn the handle would go really really stiff then suddenly back to normal for half a turn then tight. Any ideas what I have done wrong that could possibly cause this?
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Brad, did you do the Carbontex yourself? You've obviously got the sequence of the washers above the drag stack wrong... are you coming to the social on the 14th? Bring the reel with, we can have a look see...
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Thanks Tony. Ill bring it along tho Im almost 100% sure the washers are correct I had the same problem in June and to be honest Im really embarrassed to phone the shop that fixed it and say I messed up again but I also for the life of me cannot remember what caused the problem I remember something to do with the gears?
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Seems Im more of a reel expert than I thought problem solved! How I have no idea but stripped everything down again and put it back together and now it works wierd stuff
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Good for you. Expierience is the best way to learn. You are lucky, usually expierience only comes a few seconds after you needed it
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Does it matter which side is above or underneath on the last 2 Carbontex washers?
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Not sure what you mean Chris? The Carbontex washers can be used either way up, it doesn't really matter.
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Thanks that is what I wanted to know.
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HI Reefs, great post but is the little plate on top of the dog pawl not perhaps the wrong way around? Don't mean to nitpick, reason I ask is that my two Toriums are the other way around.
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The way I have it in the tutorial is the way Keith Murison put it in... but I'm sure it doesn't make a big difference either way? It still holds the Dog Pawl in place, which is what it's designed to do? :dunno:
As long as it doesn't interfere with the Drive Gear. But it makes sense to put in so that the curve conforms with the drive gear's curve...
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cool, thanx just serviced my reels yesterday, so pic still fresh in my mind, thought maybe I got it a$$ about face
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cool, thanx just serviced my reels yesterday, so pic still fresh in my mind, thought maybe I got it a$$ about face
Nah... only one who does that around here is me!
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Great Demo REEFMAN,
I would like to introduce a product called SaltX to you and other members.
SaltX is a solution that you bath you reels in after us, and it actually eats the salt off the reel and gets in the reel in places that only water gets to.
For most of us, washing the reel off with fresh water after a days fishing is the end of the attention for the reels BUT the problem comes when the fresh water actually pushes the salt deeper into the reel and can be harmful.
With SaltX it actually eats the salt and your reels suffer no corrossion at all.....I have used it for the past year and my maintenance is cut right down.......
FYI, its a great product....
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SaltX you say? Will give it a bash!
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Just thought I would share with you guys the source of my toriums woes. The problem was that after tightening up the drag and winding against resistance it would sieze in one spot while rotating the handle. We tried replacing the cup washers cleaning every bearing meticulously to make sure there was no dirt on them I changed out the drive shaft and washers and the problem persisted. The wierd thing is that after servicing it would be fine until tightening up on the drag. Yesterday I took it to All Out Angling and with in 10mins they found the problem. The plastic case for the AR bearing was upside down! This meant that under pressure it would effectively lock up. It is such a tiny mistake with a huge and very frustrating effect
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Jeepers Brad... don't know how you managed to put the bearing in upside down?
It's quite difficult to do that... the top of the bearing has notches on it that fit perfectly into the Inner sleeve.
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But glad you got it sorted anyway!
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I have no idea and being a bit of a noob with reels I always try not to force things because that normally means I have messed up somewhere but this one just slid right in. Fortunately no lasting damage
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I have no idea and being a bit of a noob with reels I always try not to force things because that normally means I have messed up somewhere but this one just slid right in. Fortunately no lasting damage
:win:
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Howsit Chaps.
Great Tut Reefs... Really a valuable source of info, and if it wasn't for this thread i would've been properly in the bush!
My neighbor came knocking the other day and asked me if i would be interested in buying a reel (Tor30) from him, still not too sure what the reason was, but i need your help wrt a general 2nd hand price you think i should offer him...
Cosmetically the reel is still very neat with a few light hairline scratches on the body... It is loaded with whiplash backing, topped with KF high abrasion and a new wind on leader... All seems good on the outside...
When i entered the reel specs on the search bar above i found this TUT and decided to strip the reel to see if it was as neat on the inside as it is on the out... Just as well, plse see pics below...
I have since rebuilt it and replaced the old washers with new carbontex.
Any idea why these old drag washers have broken up and been damaged like this???
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Tyrone , looks like the washers were never regreased there whole life and became dry / brittle with time and use and then subjected to heat build -up when on with a fish , finally gave up and detoriated / broke up eventually.
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Thanks Mike....
They were slightly greasy, but properly worn smooth and thin... Assuming the guy got properly stripped by some big nunus...
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Eh gents
Just wanna know if anyone got contact for these bearing sets particularly the ARB bearing.
What costings are involved?
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Thanx Reefman, I will use this advice to service my Toriums.
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High time I learnt to service my own tor30, what are the specs of the grease I should use? anything I might find in my local hardware shop? Im assuming I can use the Daiwa oil or will the shimano spit it out :hehe:
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Any decent oil is good.
Any of the commercial greases are good too... Surecatch, Daiwa, Kingfisher grease etc. Use a Teflon grease preferably for the Drag washers (like Cal's).
I would recommend replacing all Torium drag washers as soon as you get the reel. The Standard Dartanium washers are rubbish. Very fragile and brittle and they cause snatching of the drag under pressure.
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Thanks Tony