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Title: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: jaenswart on September 29, 2010, 08:31:32 AM
Guys,

what can be used instead of lead for the molding of sinkers , baitswimmer and jigheads. Or is lead still the way to go
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: John F on September 29, 2010, 09:16:22 AM
While a few options have been tried, I think lead is still the cheapest ...
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: jaenswart on September 29, 2010, 09:51:26 AM
While a few options have been tried, I think lead is still the cheapest ...

I was thinking about the dangers of lead regarding cancer etc..and also trying to go greener
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: RusticRainman on September 29, 2010, 12:13:20 PM
http://www.clearlyoutdoors.com/fnimall/dr_drop_sinkers.phtml (http://www.clearlyoutdoors.com/fnimall/dr_drop_sinkers.phtml)
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: jaenswart on September 29, 2010, 12:24:22 PM
http://www.clearlyoutdoors.com/fnimall/dr_drop_sinkers.phtml (http://www.clearlyoutdoors.com/fnimall/dr_drop_sinkers.phtml)

So where does one get tungsten and how does one melt it :-) I wonder if it is something that is available in powder form
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: RusticRainman on September 29, 2010, 12:38:40 PM
The main properties of interest for tungsten are:

·          Tungsten is the heaviest engineering material with a density of 19.25 g/cm3

·         It has the highest melting point of all metals at 3410°C

·         It has the lowest vapour pressure of all metals

·         It has the highest modulus of elasticity of the metals (E = 400GPa)

·         It is the hardest pure metal

·         Excellent high temperature strength characteristics

·         It has the highest tensile strength at temperatures above 1650°C

·         It has a low thermal expansion co-efficient (4.4x10-6 m/m/°C) similar to that of borosilicate glass, and therefore makes it useful for glass to metal seals.

·         It does not oxidise in air and needs no protection from oxidation at elevated temperaratures

·         Its corrosion resistance is excellent, and it is not attacked by nitric, hydrofluoric, or sulphuric acid solutions
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: Sailor on September 29, 2010, 12:49:06 PM
OK so we cannot use tungsten. What else? Iron/steel but then you need a lathe to turn them out. Iron will rust away in the sea and be enviro friendly. Also non toxic.
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: jaenswart on September 29, 2010, 12:50:07 PM
OK so we cannot use tungsten. What else? Iron/steel but then you need a lathe to turn them out. Iron will rust away in the sea and be enviro friendly. Also non toxic.

problem with iron is that it is just not heavy enough for most applications
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: Fritz on September 29, 2010, 01:13:53 PM
You can use white metal. But you still have to melt it and go thru the same procedure to cast. Not as heave as lead and costs a small fortune. Rather use it for making spoons and go back to the good old lead for your sinkers.
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: Mudcrab on September 29, 2010, 01:14:30 PM
Depleted uranium 19.1gm/cm3  :lolo:
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: RusticRainman on September 29, 2010, 01:16:22 PM
http://www.chinatungstens.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/ProductInfoExhibit.html?ProductInfoExhibit_ProductID=c373e91927678b3d8fea6125d89f5e86&ProductInfoExhibit_isRefreshParent=false&gclid=CL3j9_TArKQCFeh25Qod1lSZdg (http://www.chinatungstens.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/ProductInfoExhibit.html?ProductInfoExhibit_ProductID=c373e91927678b3d8fea6125d89f5e86&ProductInfoExhibit_isRefreshParent=false&gclid=CL3j9_TArKQCFeh25Qod1lSZdg)
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: Sailor on September 29, 2010, 03:00:07 PM
problem with iron is that it is just not heavy enough for most applications

It all depends how heavy you need your sinkers.
Look at this comparison. 4oz ball sinker   :  Tungsten   diameter   23.7mm
                                                           Lead                       28.21mm
                                                           Steel                       31.9mm
 
Difference between lead and steel not to bad. The longer your sinker is the less the difference in diameter will be.
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: Stokstyf! on September 29, 2010, 03:34:58 PM
Maybe coper can be used???
:dunno:
Title: Re: "LEAD" MOLDS
Post by: Homie on September 29, 2010, 06:28:20 PM
Depleted uranium 19.1gm/cm3  :lolo:


Hahahahaha !!!!
That will be AWESOME !!!! After 2 years I'll have 4 hands, and can spin twice as fast !!!!



Maybe coper can be used???
 :dunno:


Think it will be WAAAAY more expensive than lead ?
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