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General Angling Topics => Rock and Surf Traces and Rigs => Topic started by: Dangerboy on September 21, 2015, 07:09:19 PM
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Hello guys
I recently changed a lot of my rigs to pulley rigs just to give it a shot and for some odd reason is getting more fish. This will apply to scratching and eds.
Could it be of the free movement of the bait? I also use more flotation then before and I find this way better with more action.
Can any one comment or is it just the luck of the draw?
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Pulley rigs will definitely work better in certain conditions... wherever you need a long hook snoot, where fish are shy and can get spooked by rolling sinkers etc. Wherever you need flotation to keep the bait off the bottom, like rocky bottoms or algae covered...etc Pulley rig also allows the bait to be clipped for a further cast, without compromising a nice long Hook snoot. Works well in clear conditions with a Fluoro snoot.
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Posting from phone sorry .
I know of two spots , that I kid you not , a pulley rig works exponentially better than any other rig . I have toyed with a few adaptions ome more successfull than other .
W have mainly fished it with circle hooks with flotation , and have been like I said very successful .
Hello guys
I recently changed a lot of my rigs to pulley rigs just to give it a shot and for some odd reason is getting more fish. This will apply to scratching and eds.
Could it be of the free movement of the bait? I also use more flotation then before and I find this way better with more action.
Can any one comment or is it just the luck of the draw?
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I had no idea what you okes were referring to, so I googled it and for those who don't know, this is what I think they are talking about.
If I have not got the right info, please correct it.
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Hi Lenny
Can you please post some pic's and spec's of the pully rig for scratching and other ed's
Thanx
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THE PULLEY RIG
http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=191.msg264#msg264 (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=191.msg264#msg264)
(http://africanaquatics.co.za/FISHING/Fishing%20stuff/TRACES/PULLEY%20RIG/PULLEY%20RIG%20WHOLE.jpg)
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Yip that's the silent assassin that tends to work!
Great illustration Reefman
Regards
DB
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Hi Lenny
Can you please post some pic's and spec's of the pully rig for scratching and other ed's
Thanx
Hi danie
Mine are similar , to Te pic reefman posted .
My trace / pulley and sinker snoot tend to be a shorter than the one per reefman a post .
Oh and obviously I use floatation.
I have not used the one where the swivels runs all the way to/ against the sinker . Bit sceptical about having your sinker " on" your line when you have a fish on .
But there's no right or wrong way ...
Experiment , is really the best .
Keep in mind .
Hook snoot 40 cm
Pulley section 20cm
Sinker snoot . 40 cm
The pulley section an the sinker snoot should both count as sinker snoot . But obviously , it's still " limited sliding "
Often guys make the pulley section either too thin mono , or too long length wise.
Another thing I can add is , we have found that ons softer rods and thinner lines , we make a short pulley .
Ons the heavier rods and mono , longer pulley .
The area we use this rig helped us hook and land lots of fish in a area you tend to loose quite a few because of reefs , with a pulley rig it worked wonderfully , dislodging you sinker / setting the circle and getting away from
The floor .
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Will post a pic of mine .
Just saw , rm trace are
Different from mine.
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Thank you Lenny :-)
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Will post a pic of mine .
Just saw , rm trace are
Different from mine.
Yinne tog jy word oud.... duh
http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=14151.msg224906#msg224906 (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=14151.msg224906#msg224906)
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Will post a pic of mine .
Just saw , rm trace are
Different from mine.
Yinne tog jy word oud.... duh
http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=14151.msg224906#msg224906 (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=14151.msg224906#msg224906)
:toppie: Ha ha ha call me oom .
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Hi Lenny - I think I might just have stumbled upon your little secret regarding the effectiveness of your pulley rig....
My theory is that the wine bottle cork you use is soaked in that potent wine you okes get down your way - there is no other way those kobbies could land on their sides like that....
Just kidding....
Nice tut and thanks for sharing. :+ cred:
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Hi Lenny - I think I might just have stumbled upon your little secret regarding the effectiveness of your pulley rig....
My theory is that the wine bottle cork you use is soaked in that potent wine you okes get down your way - there is no other way those kobbies could land on their sides like that....
Just kidding....
Lol one of the particular spots are so filthy , that one should dip that cork in disinfectant .
No seriously , ask any one who fishes the sh t pipe . Lol
Nice tut and thanks for sharing. :+ cred:
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Been using these for years now with great success. Just a tip, use a slightly lower breaking strain line between an extra swivel and the sinker or will lose the entire rig if the sinker line snaps.
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Yes , it's a sinker snoot after all , and the diameter of that piece of snoot should always be lighter than your hook/ leader line.
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Would there be any downfall in using knots instead of swivels. The mainline would still be attached to a swivel which would run on a thicker nylon between two beads. The hook and sinker lines would be knotted on either side of the thicker running line? or perhaps just a knot going to the hook line with a swivel going to the sinker line?
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The pulley rig comes from the UK back in the 1970's the idea being that when you hook a fish the weight of the fish pulls the sinker up against the swivel the leader is tied to. This means that the sinker is not hanging down so is much less likely to get snagged as you reel the fish in if you are fishing over rocks. Incidentally if you make the hook snood the right length the hook snood does not take the strain of casting so you can use a lighter line for the hook snood so that if the hook gets stuck in a rock you can break the snood and not lose the whole rig.
I read somewhere that the leader swivel sinks down onto the sinker swivel leaving the hook snood and the section of nylon going to the sinker free (ie effectively making the hook snood longer). This just won't happen if you think about it. The weight of the sinker and the force of the current on the main line will always pull the leader swivel up against the hook snood swivel.
Tim