I'm going to do a bit of a write up on that.
Interestingly... they claim to have the same line capacity...
TN30A 11kg = 24.25lb, call it 25lb = 384m
TN30 25lb = 420Yards = 384m
Can't believe that they can sprout such utter BS. There is NO ways that the 30A has the same capacity as the Gold series. (See the pics in the next post). Simply impossible due to the marked difference in size.
30A has lots of bearings, very smooth, serviceable handle with bearings. The 30A is built beautifully... machined almost like a Saltiga! Smooooth and very solid! But very fast and no braking system either. It spins for at least a minute in free spool, and that's with greased spool bearings!!! Must be a beast to cast it... Will be a great reel in the hands of a Master Caster!
30A has a longer improved Anti-reverse bearing, much better than the Gold's. Also has double dog pawls, a big improvement.
Has Funny Carbon drag washers... like the thin discs of the old Saltist. The bottom drag washers are both thick woven Carbontex, but the middle washers are thin discs. Suppose it beats Dartanium.... :dunno:
The TN30's drag rating with Dartanium washers is 7.5kg, while the 30A has a 11kg rating.
With a Carbontex upgrade in the gold, reckon those drag ratings become quite similar?
And then that Anti-reverse bearing that can fit in both ways... duh epic fail Shimano.
In the 30A it's a MAJOR mission to remove the spool... can't just remove the LH Side plate, because there isn't one! Side plate and frame are one piece. So quick service and lubes are just not possible.
In my opinion, the Gold Trini, with upgraded Carbontex, a drive shaft bushing upgrade and the stock standard centrifugal brake system (included), wins hands down in plain functionality.
hi reefmanThe spool shaft is fixed to the spool, you cannot remove it.
does that bar on the right hand side of the spool where the bearing sits come out?
i am trying to measure that bearing but dont know how to take it off i dont wanna add force and damage something>
do you push that little bar to the side or does the whole pin of the spool come out?
Looking forward to the Tiagra service tut and even know a bloke who'll offer one up for this purpose... :hnthnt:Doesn't Alan Tani have one on his website? If you can do without your reel for a month or so, I'd be glad to do it Shaun.
Thanks for the GREAT tutorial!!!! I can go fish that reel with great confidence now.
I will be respooling the reel before our trip end of June and will give accurate figures on the amount of line it takes.
My guess would be about the same or a bit more than a Daiwa 40 but surely less than a Daiwa 50.
Thanks again Tony!!!!
:happ: (clap)
Cool beans... :tkx:
It's been shown that Drag force generated is not a function of Surface area. Rather, the force applied to them, the composition, number and thickness are the critical factors. So making that top metal washer bigger will do nothing except make the reel heavier.
you are a 110% correct here! as far as the line capacity goes you are incorrect sir, the 30A and the trini gold 30 take the same amount of line, down to the last meter..(om te meet is om te weet?)Bigger is not always betterIt has been postulated recently that the formulae for Drag friction has very little to do with Drag washer Surface area. The greatest function determining the force of the Drag is the actual force that is applied to the Drag stack by the Star Drag or Lever Drag. So when looking for a reel with good Drag, it's not the number of washers or the size that count, but rather their composition, thickness and ability to be compressed without dramatic deformation and heat build up.
you are a 110% correct here! as far as the line capacity goes you are incorrect sir, the 30A and the trini gold 30 take the same amount of line, down to the last meter..(om te meet is om te weet?)Bigger is not always betterIt has been postulated recently that the formulae for Drag friction has very little to do with Drag washer Surface area. The greatest function determining the force of the Drag is the actual force that is applied to the Drag stack by the Star Drag or Lever Drag. So when looking for a reel with good Drag, it's not the number of washers or the size that count, but rather their composition, thickness and ability to be compressed without dramatic deformation and heat build up.
I'll take your word for it...