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Title: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: REEFMAN on May 12, 2014, 02:44:26 PM
Here is a popular method of joining your Mono leader to Carbon coated steel, as used in the sliding technique. The 1m steel at the end of the leader provides some protection against a burn-off.
 
This method uses the back to back Fig 8. It's extremely strong and favoured over the Albright.
 
Line the Steel up with the Mono. Make a 2 turn loop in the steel around the Mono.

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/FIG8 STEEL/FIG 8 1.jpg)
 
Now feed the tag end of the steel though the back of both loops.

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/FIG8 STEEL/FIG 8 2.jpg)

Grab the tag end and small loop with your fingers and unravel the 2 loops...
Now gently form the knot up half-tight with a pair of pliers.

MOISTEN THE KNOT AT ALL STAGES TO PREVENT LINE BURN!


(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/FIG8 STEEL/FIG 8 3.jpg)
 

Switch things around and make a 3 turn Fig 8 in the mono, around the steel, same as above.

Use 3 turns in 1mm leader and below; 2 turns in 1.2+mm leader is sufficient.


(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/FIG8 STEEL/FIG 8 5.jpg)


Put the tag end through the back of all 3 loops, grab the tag end along with the smallest loop and tease out the loops flat.

Then form the knot by pulling on the tag end.

This is what you are left with...

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/FIG8 STEEL/FIG 8 6.jpg)


Moisten everything properly.
Now pull on the 2 ends until the knots slide up and touch each other...

(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/FIG8 STEEL/FIG 8 7.jpg)




Now you want to tighten up the steel knot. Using a pair of pliers at the steel tag end, pull the knot tighter...


(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/FIG8 STEEL/FIG 8 8.jpg)



Now pull both main ends until the knots squash up against each other...

Keep tightening the steel knot with pliers on the tag end, then pulling both ends tight until you have a nice neat compressed knot.
(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/FIG8 STEEL/FIG 8 9.jpg)





This is what the finished product looks like... with trimmed tag ends. Small and compact and very strong.



(http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/articles/FIG8 STEEL/FIG 8 10.jpg)


 
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: Charles on May 12, 2014, 03:39:28 PM
Great stuff! Thank you Sir!
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: Spieks on May 12, 2014, 03:45:45 PM
Nice one! :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: dodger on May 12, 2014, 07:09:46 PM
I like that, it should work nicely on light wire for  :tgr: 's
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: Serra Moz on May 13, 2014, 01:34:48 AM
Very nice knot, it can be used for traces other than sliding too, thinner diameters, I urge the first timers to have a bit of patience, as my first attempts were looking horrible! But, with a glass of red wine + a bit of patience - you will see it's not that difficult - do NOT rush the knot! This knot (of course thinner diameter on both) can be modified and used for Elf or single hook single hook applications such small squid drift baits.
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: Cage on May 13, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
I like that, it should work nicely on light wire for  :tgr: 's
Yip, can confirm that, have been using it for tigers over the past 2 years and zero complaints... compact, neat and strong.... sometimes tie it with a uni on leader side........
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: craigb on May 13, 2014, 07:24:58 PM
awesome tut,thx,up to what lb steel can i use this not?I battle with knots in steel from 200lb and more. :tkx: 
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: Weedeater on May 14, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
awesome tut,thx,up to what lb steel can i use this not?I battle with knots in steel from 200lb and more. :tkx:


IIRC 150lb worked best.
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: Durri on May 14, 2017, 03:42:40 PM
Hi.

Thanks for the great info. Does this knot work for nylon coated wire as well?

Can the figure of 8 be used to join the wire to hook/swivel as well?
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: REEFMAN on May 15, 2017, 07:07:26 AM
Yes it will work fine with Nylon coated as well.

Joining steel to terminal tackle is also fine, but the technique is different. Follow this tut to prevent kinking the wire... http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,77.0.html (http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php/topic,77.0.html)
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: Durri on May 15, 2017, 11:58:52 AM
Thanks. Excellent tut
Title: Re: Join Carbon coated Steel to leader
Post by: Bwana on May 16, 2017, 09:06:50 AM
Very nicely done! simple neat and effective
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