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General Angling Topics => DIY Forum => Topic started by: John F on August 25, 2010, 12:54:54 PM
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Setting the drag of lever drag reels can be a bit frustrating if you have no one round to help you.
Here's how I do it.
What you need:
- Digital or spring scales (either in Lb or Kg; preferably both);
- About 1 m of 3 mm nylon rope;
- 1 x plastic or metal pulley block with about 20 cm of nylon thread.
Hang the scales about 1.5-1.8 m high. Use about 0.80 cm of nylon rope and tie two loops. One end connects to the lower hook of the scale, the other goes through the pulley and will connect to the snap swivel attached to the main rod line.
The pulley should be firmly attached to the ground. Check the the simple diagram below. I did this on my backyard using the water deposit piping and my work bench. It will also work with a gate or anywhere were you can secure (firmly) both the pulley and the scales.
Once the snap swivel is connected, lift the rod tip up in a firm and continuous movement and check the drag force as the line starts to come out the reel. Adjust the setting (Strike and Full) according to the setup being used (the rule of thumb is Strike = 1/3 and Full = 3/4 of the line capacity).
Hope it makes sense?
Will try and post some pics, when the wife gets home!
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John,
Interesting method.
One question, slow even pull is one thing giving you the drag pressure. now take up the strain and then strike back, as if a wahoo hit going away from you at 300km/h and boat going 10km/h the other way. you get a spike in drag due to start up enertia.
is it not better to test the drag at the highest rating?
I put my rods in the gunnel holders of the boat, put hand held spring scale with a marker on it to shaow max drag acheived. walk back approx distance to where my lures woyuld be and take up strain and then give a full arm arc fast pull. walk back to boat to fine tune if you dont have a helper. you get to know a rought feeling pullin off the reel so doesnt take too long.
The guys that know physics (i never concentrated at varsity, there was a hot pharmacy student in front of me all year, I failed that subject) hows my reasoning?
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Yes, good point tkei.
The scales I used are actually not that accurate anyway. What I do is, I usually set the drag conservatively. Say, 30 lb line I use 7 lb strike. 50 Lb, about 15 lb (strike).... just trying to compensate...
But you're right... it is something one should have in mind...
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Thanks John and Tkei....personally I just need to know where my FULL is at. The rest I manage on feel by adjusting the lever drag itself. If I target wahoo I set it light to my feel. Plastics on Marlin I would pull the line and it should run of the reel just before the mono stretches.
In short I cannot comment as I do it on feel.
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Thanks John and Tkei....personally I just need to know where my FULL is at. The rest I manage on feel by adjusting the lever drag itself. If I target wahoo I set it light to my feel. Plastics on Marlin I would pull the line and it should run of the reel just before the mono stretches.
In short I cannot comment as I do it on feel.
I agree with you TUNAMAN
"On Feel" is much better because there are lots of factors
in play here.
Sea conditions & Current - just to mention two.
There can not be a "Cast in Stone" rule setting drags and that is that =
not on a boat I feel.
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i ALSO DO SOME BY FEEL. sOMETIMES THE 1/3 AT STRIKE JUST FEELS TOO MUCH, AND i then adjust to feel. on 50lb 1/3 at strike feels grazy heavy when pulling by hand off the spool.
I guess a lot has to do with experience, trust in your tackle and its mantenance, age of line etc. if i am unsure about the line age etc if reel isnt mine, then i will use much less drag etc.
i do however like to know what drag settings are where.
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That is why you only set it 1/3 of the breaking strain, to compensate for the "spikes" ans when the spool runs low on line. I have always set my drag 1/3 and have never had a failure. Maybe I need to catch bigger faster fish????
Nice one John!
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@ Tunaman and Tsutsuma,
There are no "cast in stone rules" in angling...
Hence the expression rule of thumb... By adjusting the drag at a certain level (be it Strike = 1/3; Full = 3/4 or whatever), one is simply setting a reference limit in order to hook/fight the fish with confidence that you're below the breaking limits of your line... it doesn't mean you HAVE to set lever drag to those positions ALL the time...
Once I'm fighting the fish, it really helps to know that if a push my drag to "Strike" I'll be at 1/3 of the break point and it I set it to full then I'm 75% there...
Remember the Everol reels (www.everol.com (http://www.everol.com))? Well these reels tell you, whatever the position of the lever, which drag force is being applied... tell me that's not cool?
Hope it's less muddy now?!
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That is why you only set it 1/3 of the breaking strain, to compensate for the "spikes" ans when the spool runs low on line. I have always set my drag 1/3 and have never had a failure. Maybe I need to catch bigger faster fish????
Nice one John!
Soon Bennie Soon!
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@ Tunaman and Tsutsuma,
There are no "cast in stone rules" in angling...
Hence the expression rule of thumb... By adjusting the drag at a certain level (be it Strike = 1/3; Full = 3/4 or whatever), one is simply setting a reference limit in order to hook/fight the fish with confidence that you're below the breaking limits of your line... it doesn't mean you HAVE to set lever drag to those positions ALL the time...
Once I'm fighting the fish, it really helps to know that if a push my drag to "Strike" I'll be at 1/3 of the break point and it I set it to full then I'm 75% there...
Remember the Everol reels (www.everol.com (http://www.everol.com))? Well these reels tell you, whatever the position of the lever, which drag force is being applied... tell me that's not cool?
Hope it's less muddy now?!
Less muddy now JOHN. As an example I do a lot of competitions on 20 pound line. Here I actually thumb the line while fishing as I know where my break is only by feel. When they run the thumb is off and they run against the drag. On lighter lines I only go on feel. Heavier lines become more difficult and there I always set the full drag but this i do at 99% of the breaking strain. When the time arises and the fish is not running I can use maximum example to get it past a shark etc.
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Ok Tunaman, got it...
Just remember that the line capacity written on the label of the spool rarely is the real one!!!!! So, 99% of the breaking strain is pushing your luck!
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JOHN I purchase specific line and I guarantee it. I do appreciate what you mean in in some cases most definitely agree. I will demonstrate when in Maputo. We are talking Mono now and not braid.
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Less muddy now JOHN. As an example I do a lot of competitions on 20 pound line. Here I actually thumb the line while fishing as I know where my break is only by feel. When they run the thumb is off and they run against the drag. On lighter lines I only go on feel. Heavier lines become more difficult and there I always set the full drag but this i do at 99% of the breaking strain. When the time arises and the fish is not running I can use maximum example to get it past a shark etc.
TUNAMAN
It is no use Buddy = to go to this extent
I am not any "Expert & have never claimed to be"
But what I can tell you is that my Fishing Results "Speak Louder than Words"
As certain experts should know by now
lol
We are going to do this together on your Team visit to my Paradise
I can not wait Buddy
Carlos
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Soon Bennie Soon!
Very Very soon Bennie
Believe me Sir
Carlos
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Tunaman,
at 99% you also have zero margin for error wrt slight abraison, hitting weed ont he surface, a crossed line etc. even a few days on the boat int he sun can do a bit of damage. gr8 if it works for you, but I am not that brave.
Take the winnign marlin at OET last year, caught on 80lb igfa rated line. I am sure the guys dont use junk. on testing it broke consistently int he 50lb bracket. at 99% you would be fishing on your old boat, not the new one on offer int hat comp.
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Must have been ANDE. Tkei something must be wrong for sure. If 80LB breaks at 50PD it should not even be on the market.
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Must have been ANDE. Tkei something must be wrong for sure. If 80LB breaks at 50PD it should not even be on the market.
TUNAMAN
Is there something I should know about ANDE line??
Please let me know??
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The importance of setting a drag with a scale cannot be over emphasised, also I agree with Tkei I only scale my drags from the gunnels or from the flat positions, as I know where each rod is positioned it easy to know which is which. There is a substanyial difference between holding the rod and lifting into it than from the gunnels, up to 15%!!! I am not brave or confident enoough to trust my feel, I prefer to be completly sure.
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Must have been ANDE. Tkei something must be wrong for sure. If 80LB breaks at 50PD it should not even be on the market.
I agree with that, but whats with the ANDE we have used it for years with no problems?? I cant say I have tested where it breaks but have luckily :pray: not had it fail.
spill the beans what do you know????? (bat (bat
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shagnrelease
Thanks
That makes all the sence in the world =
setting drags from the gunnels in the boat.
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I agree with that, but whats with the ANDE we have used it for years with no problems?? I cant say I have tested where it breaks but have luckily :pray: not had it fail.
spill the beans what do you know????? (bat (bat
shagnrelease
I have all the interest in the ANDE info as my 4 game rods has TOP SHOT of 80lb ANDE "PINK"
Come on TUNAMAN = give it to us asap
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I do not want to diss lines publicly but I have spooled to rolls before where we lost fish the next day. On taking it back to the shop I asked them to pull it off. The line had varying diameters through out the spools. It was enough to put me of. As for line that I can guarantee will break on their stipulated rating is DOUBLEX. This is also a line I have exstensively tested. The problem these days is that stores stock the brands on which they make the best margin so usually I do not get the specific XX I'm looking for (rating and colour). I then fall back onto berkley BIGGAME and if there is none I have to take ANDE.
This is merely my experience but what i can add is that the guys who go for records on 2kg and 4 kg classes also take XX before any other and they swear by it.
We should actually run a test and check the results.
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I do not want to diss lines publicly but I have spooled to rolls before where we lost fish the next day. On taking it back to the shop I asked them to pull it off. The line had varying diameters through out the spools. It was enough to put me of. As for line that I can guarantee will break on their stipulated rating is DOUBLEX. This is also a line I have exstensively tested. The problem these days is that stores stock the brands on which they make the best margin so usually I do not get the specific XX I'm looking for (rating and colour). I then fall back onto berkley BIGGAME and if there is none I have to take ANDE.
This is merely my experience but what i can add is that the guys who go for records on 2kg and 4 kg classes also take XX before any other and they swear by it.
We should actually run a test and check the results.
Thanks TUNAMAN
Well - let me tell you this about my ANDE
I have problems with my ANDE
But I thought it was normal
After my Blue Marlin +- 2 months ago -
my ANDE was 80% shot
As I said - I bought the ANDE "PINK" and after the Marlin as let free - my ANDE was not pink anymore - but like dull grey
And to add - the whole strech of ANDE top shot = when you pulled it of the reel + curled into circles of abour 5cm in diameter loops on the floor
I did replace it as I invested in a huge spool I bought directly from Ryan Williamson as his co,pany "Pulsator"
imports ANDE
On my 2 = 30VSX Pen Internationsl reels the same thing
We had a Pack Attack twice of Sailfish where between the 2 = 30VS.s and the 50VSX - had fought 9 sailfish in 2 hours
The same about the colour going dull grey and the line in a mess when pulled off the reels
Is this normal please??
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Thanks TUNAMAN
Well - let me tell you this about my ANDE
I have problems with my ANDE
But I thought it was normal
After my Blue Marlin +- 2 months ago -
my ANDE was 80% shot
As I said - I bought the ANDE "PINK" and after the Marlin as let free - my ANDE was not pink anymore - but like dull grey
And to add - the whole strech of ANDE top shot = when you pulled it of the reel + curled into circles of abour 5cm in diameter loops on the floor
I did replace it as I invested in a huge spool I bought directly from Ryan Williamson as his co,pany "Pulsator"
imports ANDE
On my 2 = 30VSX Pen Internationsl reels the same thing
We had a Pack Attack twice of Sailfish where between the 2 = 30VS.s and the 50VSX - had fought 9 sailfish in 2 hours
The same about the colour going dull grey and the line in a mess when pulled off the reels
Is this normal please??
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TUNAMAN
It is no use Buddy = to go to this extent
I am not any "Expert & have never claimed to be"
But what I can tell you is that my Fishing Results "Speak Louder than Words"
As certain experts should know by now
lol
We are going to do this together on your Team visit to my Paradise
I can not wait Buddy
Carlos
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I wish "non experts" such as Peter Pakula, Bart Miller and many other captains who have caught zillions of granders and actually set their drags using scales and fully recommend it, could read this thread!!!!! I'm sure they could learn a lot from the "real" experts and their monster catches!!!!
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TSUTSUMA check this out http://www.gamefishin.com/wa/features/linetest.htm (http://www.gamefishin.com/wa/features/linetest.htm)
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I wish "non experts" such as Peter Pakula, Bart Miller and many other captains who have caught zillions of granders and actually set their drags using scales and fully recommend it, could read this thread!!!!! I'm sure they could learn a lot from the "real" experts and their monster catches!!!!
JOHNF don't freak out now. I did say i set my drag but only on full. My strike drag I determine on feel. These are two different settings.
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Hey Tunaman,
I'm glad you have confidence in your line... that's the most important thing.
Those tests have been done on lot's of popular brands... just check marlin mag...
I just think it is always wise to give it some margin for whatever may happen...
Tight lines!
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Thanks TUNAMAN
Well - let me tell you this about my ANDE
I have problems with my ANDE
But I thought it was normal
After my Blue Marlin +- 2 months ago -
my ANDE was 80% shot
As I said - I bought the ANDE "PINK" and after the Marlin as let free - my ANDE was not pink anymore - but like dull grey
And to add - the whole strech of ANDE top shot = when you pulled it of the reel + curled into circles of abour 5cm in diameter loops on the floor
I did replace it as I invested in a huge spool I bought directly from Ryan Williamson as his co,pany "Pulsator"
imports ANDE
On my 2 = 30VSX Pen Internationsl reels the same thing
We had a Pack Attack twice of Sailfish where between the 2 = 30VS.s and the 50VSX - had fought 9 sailfish in 2 hours
The same about the colour going dull grey and the line in a mess when pulled off the reels
Is this normal please??
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I have not used the pink one but just the normal clear or green, but certainly if your line has changed colour after a fight then there is something wrong, when line is damaged or has been jerked quickly tight like on a strike it turns a milky colour and weakens, if your line breaks with a dull thud then you know your line has failed, but if it breaks with a LOUD CRACK, then its generally too much tension.
My 30-80lb reels are currently spooled with Berkley big game, and my 12-20lb I am using the IGFA Key Lime, its nice and soft and does not have to bad of a memory. But as Tunaman says the Double x is also very good line.
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JOHNF don't freak out now. I did say i set my drag but only on full. My strike drag I determine on feel. These are two different settings.
Sorry Tunaman,
You misunderstood me... Not freaking out at you!
I did get your point and I think we both agree on this.... :rck"
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I'm fully aware of it and I do work to a system. I will not be on full strike unless it is absolutely necessary. For the rest I do rely on feel. I have done some play play test with guys when they are boozed up. Put them in a chair and tie your 80 pound rig to a tree and dare them to break it. Most cannot break the line which means a lot of us cannot exert the required 37kg to break the line. What I must add is if 80 pound breaks at 50 pound, then there is a serious problem. In fishing however care is to be given to the pressure the fish exerts on the tackle as this is when the fish breaks it without you feeling the full pressure.
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No Problem John. I think I might be to old school and need a grander to teach me a lesson.... :hehe:...Will be a bitter lesson learnt.
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shagnrelease & TUNAMAN
Well - I have never had my ANDE Top Shot break
But I never kept my ANDE Top Shot on my reels after it
turned to what I explained.
I replaced with new ANDE Top Shot and fished again
I think I will feel better it I changed to another Brand
I will visit the fishing shop in NRB and get something else before
my return to Maputo
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shagnrelease & TUNAMAN
Well - I have never had my ANDE Top Shot break
But I never kept my ANDE Top Shot on my reels after it
turned to what I explained.
I replaced with new ANDE Top Shot and fished again
I think I will feel better it I changed to another Brand
I will visit the fishing shop in NRB and get something else before
my return to Maputo
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100% you need to be completely confident in your lines, I would do the same after your experience.
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Hey Tunaman,
I would like to see that test :)! Got any pics? he he he
Good stuff...
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I have not used the pink one but just the normal clear or green, but certainly if your line has changed colour after a fight then there is something wrong, when line is damaged or has been jerked quickly tight like on a strike it turns a milky colour and weakens, if your line breaks with a dull thud then you know your line has failed, but if it breaks with a LOUD CRACK, then its generally too much tension.
My 30-80lb reels are currently spooled with Berkley big game, and my 12-20lb I am using the IGFA Key Lime, its nice and soft and does not have to bad of a memory. But as Tunaman says the Double x is also very good line.
I trust Berkley biggame but it has a tad too much memory for me. This obviously hassles only if you hook other lines in the spread and yes it does happen to me at times. But I trust it to be the same everytime. Have used SUFFIX key lime and have no complaints on the line. There is only one line however I will put my life on, when it is in stock...lol. Another think DOUBLEX has a platinum range. It is a line with less diameter than there counterparts. This only comes in one colour a type of white/clear.
Shag you are a marlin guy. I will learn from you on the nitty gritty side of things.
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100% you need to be completely confident in your lines, I would do the same after your experience.
shagnrelease & TUNAMAN
I have called "Spinner & Tackle"
They do not have the Berkley Big Game Blue range of Mono
What do you suggest please??
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shagnrelease & TUNAMAN
I have called "Spinner & Tackle"
They do not have the Berkley Big Game Blue range of Mono
What do you suggest please??
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TSUTSUMA I'm not surprised. I would suggest DOUBLEX but as I have mentioned BERKLEY is good to. I can order for you whatever you want and then you can get it from me next week?
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I trust Berkley biggame but it has a tad too much memory for me. This obviously hassles only if you hook other lines in the spread and yes it does happen to me at times. But I trust it to be the same everytime. Have used SUFFIX key lime and have no complaints on the line. There is only one line however I will put my life on, when it is in stock...lol. Another think DOUBLEX has a platinum range. It is a line with less diameter than there counterparts. This only comes in one colour a type of white/clear.
Shag you are a marlin guy. I will learn from you on the nitty gritty side of things.
I have booked the only big spool Double X they have in the store
I will collect it when I arrive in NRB
Thanks for all your FAST assistance here
You guys rock
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Hiya
The idea behind a lever drag reel is to be able to set your drag to a pre-determined level, so that it takes the 'guessing' of your drag out of the equation. Anyone who would want to 'fish by feel' is simply negating the advantages of the lever drag.
The standard accepted practice is to set the drag at strike, at 1/3 (33%) of your breaking strain. Why only at 33% of the breaking strain? Well, as mentioned, the start-up inertia of the drag when a fish strikes is one reason. When one knots the line, be it leader connections or tie-ing on terminal connections like hooks, swivels, lures, etc, the breaking strain will drop. After a few fish, the line can offen have nicks or abrasion damage which will also weaken the line. Yet another very important, but not mentioned factor is that when a fish empties your reel, the drag setting will get higher. In other words, the less line there is on the reel, the higher the drag setting will be, even though you haven't touched the lever drag. These and many other factors mean that using 33% of the lines breaking strain as your strike drag will ensure minimal fish being lost.
Discolouration of line. When targeting large fish, line MUST be seen as a consumable. When the fishing is good, i replace all my lines every two weeks, and that with 130lb line (mono). With 30lb and 50lb, after a good trip or two, with big fish, i'd suggest changing the line. When line starts discolouring, its a good sign that the line is starting to wear to the point where changing it is imminant.
IGFA rated line is MADE to break as close to the breaking strain mention, but never OVER the stated breaking strain. THIS is why anglers buy IGFA rated line.
I've used ANDE pink 80lb line commercially for a few years now and can highly recommend it. Never had any problems with line breaking.
I set my drag a simpler way. I put the rod and reel into the boats rod holder, thread the line through the eyes and attach it to a digital scale. Set the reel on strike and simply walk away from the set-up, whilst pulling the line. Check the highest reading on the scale in my hands and then re-adjust where neccessary. Simple and effective.
Drag setting DO start fluctuating and i normally check mine every 3 weeks or so. If the fishing has been VERY good, every second week, i'll check the drags.
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Thanks John and Tkei....personally I just need to know where my FULL is at. The rest I manage on feel by adjusting the lever drag itself. If I target wahoo I set it light to my feel. Plastics on Marlin I would pull the line and it should run of the reel just before the mono stretches.
In short I cannot comment as I do it on feel.
I also do my strike on feel and always have, on full I set at 90%
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I do not want to diss lines publicly but I have spooled to rolls before where we lost fish the next day. On taking it back to the shop I asked them to pull it off. The line had varying diameters through out the spools. It was enough to put me of. As for line that I can guarantee will break on their stipulated rating is DOUBLEX. This is also a line I have exstensively tested. The problem these days is that stores stock the brands on which they make the best margin so usually I do not get the specific XX I'm looking for (rating and colour). I then fall back onto berkley BIGGAME and if there is none I have to take ANDE.
This is merely my experience but what i can add is that the guys who go for records on 2kg and 4 kg classes also take XX before any other and they swear by it.
We should actually run a test and check the results.
I like double x
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I also do my strike on feel and always have, on full I set at 90%
Yes Mike
That is the way to do it
Good on you
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I like double x
I did manage to get the Double X from the Richards Bay Shop
Will replace my ANDE tomorrow on my return as
it looks like Tsutsuma will head out to sea at 4am on Saturday
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Mike,
If you set your drag to 90%, what happens when your spool is half way down. I reckon you will be way over the breaking strain of the line! Do the calc, you will see. It should be no more than 75% imo.
Don't forgetting what drag you are at when 1/2 or 3/4 of your line is out. You would be shocked!!!
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Mike,
If you set your drag to 90%, what happens when your spool is half way down. I reckon you will be way over the breaking strain of the line! Do the calc, you will see. It should be no more than 75% imo.
Don't forgetting what drag you are at when 1/2 or 3/4 of your line is out. You would be shocked!!!
I do my drag setting with 100m line out and this is the FULL setting which you only use when you absolutely need to and usually this is close to the boat and you are on the leader. It is about 75% when the lever is on STRIKE
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I also do my strike on feel and always have, on full I set at 90%
Mike it is difficult to explain to others that this is how you do it. They all believe it to be BS and that you do not know what you are doing and taking chances. I have lost minimal fish in my life and can honestly say not once due to drag. Some really do know where they are on feel. Like we have mentioned as long as we know where full is.
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Mike,
If you set your drag to 90%, what happens when your spool is half way down. I reckon you will be way over the breaking strain of the line! Do the calc, you will see. It should be no more than 75% imo.
Don't forgetting what drag you are at when 1/2 or 3/4 of your line is out. You would be shocked!!!
Bennie I constantly operate the lever during a fight backing of or up as I go and as stated even with the rod in the holder and lines out I constantly check and set.
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Mike it is difficult to explain to others that this is how you do it. They all believe it to be BS and that you do not know what you are doing and taking chances. I have lost minimal fish in my life and can honestly say not once due to drag. Some really do know where they are on feel. Like we have mentioned as long as we know where full is.
I have never lost a fish due to drag either because very seldom do I put it on FULL anyway, for my clients I set the lever and adjust when I feel needed. I also have to guage theri strength as some guys want big fish but are not strong enough and then I leave the drag lower and chase down the fish
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Okay I think I should explain in better detail. When I fish every species out there according to me requires a different drag setting and also the method of targeting. As much as one plans ahead, one cannot determine what you meet out on the water. Today there is Wahoo and lots of livebait. Now I opt for swimming them targeting Wahoo. Now my drag is set as light as possible so that it only just prevents an overwind. Why .... because they strike hard and hook themselves up. Everybit of drag on the reel in this case that is more than the minimum assists the fish to bite through your trace. Have you guys had them bite through nr. 9 piano before? I have seen this happen on other boats with drag on 1/3 theory.
Sailfish with dropback you set just before the line stretches. This sets the hooks and sailys rarely will spool you. Remember here to to drop off drag if spool gets to half. Baiting for them or feeding one you all know you free spool and when tightening up you just need enough pressure to set the hook. I do all my setting on billfish with the boat. When I skipper all the fisherman has to do is up his drag and hold on not to fall overboard. This works with dropback as well and i have been successfull with this. The only exsclusion to this is when there is one fish on and another feeding near the boat. When you pitch to the second you are on your one to set the hooks thus not interfering with the one on the line.
I set my drag with lines out and thus the amount ofline allready out has no influence on the drag and it starts at where it should be.
I understand the theory for Marlin anglers as they target a specific species and the rest is just bycatch but Mike and myself are gamefisherman and target the varieties and this is where it differs.
I can post by achievements in comps and interprovincials and nationals here as proof. All these were purely Sailfish and gamefish orientated. You will improve targeting these species if you learn to use this method. this is why lever drag was invented ontherwise we could all use stardrag reels.
I can elaborate more but I trust this clarifies what I'm trying to get across.
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Thanks Tunaman I think that has cleared a few things up for the guys, I think the confusion came in on the difference between your PRE-SET strike drag and then slacking of using the lever. I also drop my drag and up it using the lever when targeting certain species or pulling certain baits, but the basic PRE-SET strike drag is fixed at 1/3 and does not get interfered with at all while fishing.
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Thanks Shag .... I omit my thoughts at time and forget to state all the detail. Will remember to be more detailed in responses from now on.
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I got your point Tunaman right from the start,
We are on the same page after all! Experts or not!
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Thanks Tunaman I think that has cleared a few things up for the guys, I think the confusion came in on the difference between your PRE-SET strike drag and then slacking of using the lever. I also drop my drag and up it using the lever when targeting certain species or pulling certain baits, but the basic PRE-SET strike drag is fixed at 1/3 and does not get interfered with at all while fishing.
Agreed basic preset is around 1/3, but on full you need more