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Title: License question?
Post by: klippies on May 17, 2013, 10:28:25 AM
From what age do you need a license? We are planning a trip and I need to know if I should take out a license for my son (9)?
The plan is to do some rock & surf as well as East-coast Lobster
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: REEFMAN on May 17, 2013, 10:53:24 AM
Think the rule is that if they're old enough to hold a rod, they're old enough to be licensed.  :dunno: Don't know for sure though. I always bought licenses for my lighties to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Ray Hall on May 17, 2013, 12:05:05 PM
Think the rule is that if they're old enough to hold a rod, they're old enough to be licensed.  :dunno: Don't know for sure though. I always bought licenses for my lighties to be on the safe side.


WHAHAHA  (clap)
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Ray Hall on May 17, 2013, 12:06:17 PM
think i have been asked about 5 times for a license.



Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Ray Hall on May 17, 2013, 12:07:18 PM
From what age do you need a license? We are planning a trip and I need to know if I should take out a license for my son (9)?
The plan is to do some rock & surf as well as East-coast Lobster


think is more a case of:  Rather have and dont need it... than need it and dont have it... or something like that
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Marthin on May 17, 2013, 12:38:56 PM
how do you buy a licence for the child?  He needs an ID book to buy the licence?
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: visteroris on May 17, 2013, 12:49:15 PM
you need a fissing lisence from 12 years and up.
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Ray Hall on May 17, 2013, 12:53:17 PM
how do you buy a licence for the child?  He needs an ID book to buy the licence?


het my laaste een ge koop sonder om ID te wys :)
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Nikao on May 17, 2013, 12:56:24 PM
the law is -- if you are fishing you need a license no matter how old you are!
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Parasite on May 17, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
Grandson is 10, fishes with me often on the Crocker. Ist time round i was told he needs a license, so I had to buy him a one. Gets checked often by the Parkies when we beach. Use the details on their birth certificte. If they are fishing, they have to have the necessary license so I'm told. Why hassel, for something less than R100.
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Marthin on May 17, 2013, 01:16:45 PM
only reference i can find in the regulations to age is for west coast rock lobster.
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: visteroris on May 17, 2013, 01:34:55 PM
I just phoned a kzn wildlife inspector he said any child under 12 years donet need a fissing lisence. :fshn:
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Shaun17 on May 17, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
I just phoned a kzn wildlife inspector he said any child under 12 years donet need a fissing lisence. :fshn:
I'd ask him where that is stipulated... For me, apart from the legal aspect, I believe it's the right thing to do. Considering the amount of money we outlay for tackle alone, the cost of a licence is negligible.
 
I just wish they would move away from this paper licence nonsense and implement a card system of some sort...
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Parasite on May 17, 2013, 01:49:54 PM
Cost is R76 for the year. Parkies are going to question the age of the youngster and rightfully demand proof. All this nonsence for the fee of R76 a year or R6,33 a month.
Buy the licence, why hassel???????????
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: isivuba on May 17, 2013, 04:10:43 PM

I'd ask him where that is stipulated... For me, apart from the legal aspect, I believe it's the right thing to do. Considering the amount of money we outlay for tackle alone, the cost of a licence is negligible.
 
I just wish they would move away from this paper licence nonsense and implement a card system of some sort...

Shaun do you just come up with this  :dunno:  .......now this is a brillaint idea, small enough to fit in your wallet and waterproff  have to always laminate mine to use on the boat.  Nice one Shaun  (clap)
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Fishemeliatis on May 17, 2013, 04:27:34 PM
im laaitie is 3 and have his own passport with ID No. Ai, this world we in.
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Shaun17 on May 17, 2013, 04:31:58 PM

I'd ask him where that is stipulated... For me, apart from the legal aspect, I believe it's the right thing to do. Considering the amount of money we outlay for tackle alone, the cost of a licence is negligible.
 
I just wish they would move away from this paper licence nonsense and implement a card system of some sort...

Shaun do you just come up with this  :dunno:  .......now this is a brillaint idea, small enough to fit in your wallet and waterproff  have to always laminate mine to use on the boat.  Nice one Shaun  (clap)


We are so far behind... Should have seen the instructors reactions when I did my defensive drivers training in Aus and presented them with a paper temporary licence.


Sorry for the hijack... But card licenses are the way to go, and they can be renewed or additional permits added rather than needing a new one to be made.
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: dodger on May 17, 2013, 04:59:19 PM

I'd ask him where that is stipulated... For me, apart from the legal aspect, I believe it's the right thing to do. Considering the amount of money we outlay for tackle alone, the cost of a licence is negligible.
 
I just wish they would move away from this paper licence nonsense and implement a card system of some sort...

Shaun do you just come up with this  :dunno:  .......now this is a brillaint idea, small enough to fit in your wallet and waterproff  have to always laminate mine to use on the boat.  Nice one Shaun  (clap)


We are so far behind... Should have seen the instructors reactions when I did my defensive drivers training in Aus and presented them with a paper temporary licence.


Sorry for the hijack... But card licenses are the way to go, and they can be renewed or additional permits added rather than needing a new one to be made.


I couldn't agree more with a credit card type licence, even with a photo would make life much simpler.


My kzn license with receipt is in a bank bag and scrunched up in my wallet.


I actually thought that children under 12 years old did not need a licence, the kzn wildlife site (stl) is silent about it.


I have no problem paying for my grand kids to have a licence, but where do you start and stop?


Imagine:


http://www.kznwildlife.com/index.php/contacts-sea-fish-regulations.html (http://www.kznwildlife.com/index.php/contacts-sea-fish-regulations.html)
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Nikao on May 20, 2013, 07:51:56 PM
With regards to the Credit Card Licenses i can tell you from our charter boat meeting with KZN wild life that they are looking into the credit cards! however as with everything  it is going to take time! they have to have all the systems in place to issue the cards and renew them.. they are getting there but like i said it is going to take time!!

Title: Re: License question?
Post by: dodger on May 20, 2013, 08:13:08 PM
a slightly different topic, but again a complete bungle.


One of my major clients will not grant us access to site because we do not have a valid letter of good standing issued annually for the workmens compensation fund.
We have diligently deducted the monies every month from all employees and paid it over to the fund.


The fund has changed its computer system and there is a problem duh


Now that is a multi million rand organisation who can't get it right...what price we get fishing licences sorted into a useable format
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Toppie on May 21, 2013, 06:20:57 AM
Be careful what you guys wish for and don't say it too loud.
 
If the Shaik's hear of this they and their Swedish partners and BAE Systems will institute card type licenses, one each for Freshwater, Rock and Surf, Off Shore, Collection of Crustaceans and Bait, another for the Boat.
 
To be renewed yearly at cost of R400-00 per card.
 
You'll stand in ques all day to apply and get your photo's and finger prints taken.
 
It will create a new State Department and employ 4000 people to implement and administer. We are already over regulated with the biggest burocratic Civil Service in the world.
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Happy Dog on May 21, 2013, 07:07:06 AM
The confusion   Continues  with these clowns. I phoned DAF in Cape Town they told me old enough to fish and hold a rod need a license. So both my boys have. Age 7&9.it is less hassle to worry about. Especially as the parkies loiter around the easy pickings every weekend at DSBC . Good luck for the card system. In a first world country no problem . Here I ?????
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Wynand13 on May 21, 2013, 09:41:39 AM
Recently got a license from Post Office in KZN. If you can fish you need a licence. Its (in the region of) R76 per item and valid for a year. You pay for what you do, if you want to collect bait, you pay, lobster you pay, deep sea, you pay. But it took me 10 minutes, they ask ID number, but sure you can get away with not having one as a kid.
KZN seem to be jacked up on this, a lot more than any other province...
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: dodger on May 21, 2013, 12:02:53 PM
Recently got a license from Post Office in KZN. If you can fish you need a licence. Its (in the region of) R76 per item and valid for a year. You pay for what you do, if you want to collect bait, you pay, lobster you pay, deep sea, you pay. But it took me 10 minutes, they ask ID number, but sure you can get away with not having one as a kid.
KZN seem to be jacked up on this, a lot more than any other province...


don't kids born in SA get an id number on the birth certificate? Visitors use there passport number for a fishing licence
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Marthin on May 21, 2013, 01:11:45 PM
Point is not even the people working at DOFF knows....

I agree with the above sentiments of rather have it than not as i dont want to be in an argument with a DOFF official.....

But there are bags full of questions here that needs to be answered.... for example....

1.  If the child is under 10

The child lacks criminal capacity and cannot be prosecuted.
Child Justice Act 75 of 2008.
Sections 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11.
Title: Re: License question?
Post by: Toppie on May 21, 2013, 01:14:33 PM
Exactly Marthin.
 
Bordering on ridiculous. But who wants to argue with a DOFF-, or doff Conservation  official somewhere in the middle of nowhere.
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