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Title: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 07:34:14 AM
Hi guys, after Ziggy posted the Microfishing threads yesterday, it got me thinking, I really want to get into this. As many of you know I am mainly a light tackle angler and I really enjoy targeting different species, and size of fish has never really bothered me, especially when it comes to saltwater.

Now I am not going to get a specialist microfishing setup, what I would like to do is get a super super light setup, so would like to get your opinions on what setup to get. I heard FA mention he has a 5 foot berkley setup?

Ideally what I would like is a small grinder, very light braid and a rod between 4 and 5 feet in length, any opinions?
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: zach on November 23, 2012, 07:43:43 AM
WK,I have the Shimano Clarus 5.6 ultra light rod.Paired with a shimano sedona 500 it makes for a lovely set up.I have put 6 pound braid on mine.Landed two big eye kingies on the set up at Kosi about two years back.Fish was only around 500 grams in weight,but was great fun on that set up.
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 08:02:11 AM
Thanks Zach, will give it a look!
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: SAfish on November 23, 2012, 08:20:53 AM
I am going to head off to the tackle shop this afternoon to see what they have. I think this would be a great way to get my son more involved in fishing.
When I got married we did dot have a TV and my wife and I spent countless evenings catching small Blacktail etc off the jetty at the river in Still Bay. Man, those were the days!!
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 08:23:01 AM
Herman every angler has fond memories similar to yours which is why I wonder sometimes why we dont continue this type of fishing!
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: SAfish on November 23, 2012, 08:46:07 AM
I agree. At least I know the chances of blanking will be small. I am tired of living in Blankville.  :blush:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
 :hehe: I dont know I think I must be the weirdest guy on here, I can go to the coast and target these fish the whole time im there and not care about the size or throwing for bigger fish.
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: fishy1969 on November 23, 2012, 08:59:19 AM
Hey there Walkers Killer, Lexus used to make a rod called a Lexus Zero. All the specimen guys used to use them (and I'm sure they still do). Pair this up with the smallest grinder you can find and you'll have the perfect setup for tiny fish. Look at some of the Artlure websites for more info.
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: fishy1969 on November 23, 2012, 09:03:50 AM
I remember now that Lexus was part of the Silstar range
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: SAfish on November 23, 2012, 09:04:24 AM
What about a light fly rod with a small grinder?
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 09:06:05 AM
Thanks Fishy!

Have toyed with the fly rod idea and its a bit pricey if something goes wrong...
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: fishy1969 on November 23, 2012, 09:08:10 AM
fly rods are also sometimes too long....the lexus is short, light, very flexible.....will take a pic of mine for you this weekend
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 09:11:20 AM
Where did you get yours Fishy?
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: fishy1969 on November 23, 2012, 09:13:23 AM
I used to belong to an artlure club years ago and i think i bought it direct from Silstar in Durban.....i think that they have closed down now
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: SAfish on November 23, 2012, 09:13:51 AM
I am going to check out the secondhand shops as well. Sometimes you get what you are looking for in these places. Just be careful that you don't buy stolen goods.

@fishy1969 - that is exactly why I like the fly rods, they are a bit longer and you can use it like a dip stick.
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Wynand13 on November 23, 2012, 09:18:45 AM
HI WK

I have seen micro rods at a few fishing stores recently, they are about 30cm long, will do some research in the coming days and post some pics...

In the mean time this one looks cool...

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/81936888/FISHING_ROD_IN_PEN_CASE_GREAT_CHRISTMAS_GIFT.html (http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/81936888/FISHING_ROD_IN_PEN_CASE_GREAT_CHRISTMAS_GIFT.html)
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Wynand13 on November 23, 2012, 09:20:07 AM
If you want a Coffee grinder maybe this would do:

http://tomtop.co.za/2341-mini-aluminum-pocket-pen-fishing-rod-pole-reel.html (http://tomtop.co.za/2341-mini-aluminum-pocket-pen-fishing-rod-pole-reel.html)
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: John F on November 23, 2012, 09:21:53 AM
What about those el cheapo toy-like rods/reels from the supermarkets?! It's not likely that those 100 g monsters will break the rods... and it's dead cheap... if you loose/break it... no worries!!!!
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 09:25:50 AM
Thanks Wynand, but I dont want the micro setups, want a 4/5 foot rod with like a size 200-500 grinder. Marcos thats not a bad idea, but those rods are not very sensitive?
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: fishy1969 on November 23, 2012, 09:27:41 AM
Ok Walkerskiller.....one or two phone calls and i have the following info for you.....Lexus has been replaced by DAM.....start looking for the DAM Ultralight Spinning setups and you'll be on the right track
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: SAfish on November 23, 2012, 09:29:24 AM
Ok Walkerskiller.....one or two phone calls and i have the following info for you.....Lexus has been replaced by DAM.....start looking for the DAM Ultralight Spinning setups and you'll be on the right track
Thanks for the effort! I will also have a look at them.  :+ cred:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 09:29:55 AM
Thanks Fishy  :+ cred: will get in contact with them.
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: dodger on November 23, 2012, 09:31:34 AM
I have a Shimano Clarus ultra light 5'-6'' paired with a Shimano Alivio 100 reel loaded with 4kg mono and it's great fun fishing for Kurper  :krpr:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: John F on November 23, 2012, 09:32:07 AM
Marcos thats not a bad idea, but those rods are   not very sensitive?


No idea about the sensitiveness of the rods.. but I'm sure about the sensitiveness of my BANK!!!!  :hehe:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 09:33:10 AM
True Marcos, thanks Roger  :-)
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Half-Pint on November 23, 2012, 10:23:14 AM
Gareth I will bring my light set up to the social and you can have a look at it.  Its something from sensation and it maxes out at about 1oz :hehe: I don't think you can get much lighter than this. Cost was about R250. My reel is a slade 1000 and as you know that thing is tiny. Also cost about R250. The one thing I would say is go for braid! The directness is even more awesome for tiny fish firstly for the bite and secondly when "fighting" the fish you can feel every head nod! You should only need +- 100m of braid so in total your set up would be +- R600
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Half-Pint on November 23, 2012, 10:24:38 AM
Who would ever have thought I'd respond to micro fishing :hyst: unless perhaps its micro anglers :hyst: :hyst:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 10:27:42 AM
Brad, you are talking to the king of light tackle here, my lightest rod is a half ounce  :hehe:

Def gonna go with braid, 100m should be perfect, I could maybe even load 2 small reels.

But please bring the setup, I might actually have a setup by then though...
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 10:28:02 AM
Who would ever have thought I'd respond to micro fishing :hyst: unless perhaps its micro anglers :hyst: :hyst:
:lolo:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Half-Pint on November 23, 2012, 10:33:37 AM
I think a 1oz rating on this rod is rather ambitious!
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 10:37:29 AM
 :hehe: what length is it?
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Half-Pint on November 23, 2012, 10:42:10 AM
5 foot 6 if I'm not mistaken
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 10:42:54 AM
Nice bru!!!
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Ziggy on November 23, 2012, 10:49:23 AM
My lightest set up is a Daiwa BG10 paired with a Berkley graphite Lightening Rod 5'6"  (it says lure 1/8-1/4. trilene 4-10 light action)  I bought it in the 80's specifically for in Mazoe dam in Harare where there are many tiny/small tilapia


I bought it in San Francisco while travellin - and then used it for the first time on the Saskatchewan river in Canada where I caught a 5lb pike - which snapped the rod! Berkley replaced it for free.


Since then I had great fun with it catching small tilapia in Zimbabwe - but have not used it for many years
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 10:51:54 AM
Very nice!

What are your guys thoughts on the shimano sedona 500?
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Ziggy on November 23, 2012, 10:59:39 AM
Very nice!

What are your guys thoughts on the shimano sedona 500?
see http://www.tackletour.com/reviewshimanosedona.html (http://www.tackletour.com/reviewshimanosedona.html)
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 11:04:06 AM
Thanks Ziggy...
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Ziggy on November 23, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
Thanks Ziggy...


you should also google Tenkara fishing -  - But I am sure you know about that. You can get some very very light tenkara rods (no reel required). In japan they catch the smallest of fish with them
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 11:10:28 AM
Have seen those thanks, I really have my heart set on getting the lightest spinning setup possible though  :-)
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: SAfish on November 23, 2012, 11:15:31 AM
If you like  :dwa: you can have a look at the Daiwa Regal RG1000-5iA
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 23, 2012, 11:22:08 AM
Not the biggest Daiwa fan but will check it out  :tkx:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: SAfish on November 24, 2012, 04:43:42 PM
WK, I found us the perfect rod. It is about 1.5 ft long. The only problem is ...... it is pink!  :hehe:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: PH on November 25, 2012, 06:40:20 AM
WK, I found us the perfect rod. It is about 1.5 ft long. The only problem is ...... it is pink!  :hehe:

I saw those at Breezers in Knysna? Nearly bought one for my grand daughter. :creep:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 25, 2012, 08:09:11 AM
 :hehe: :hehe:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: dodger on November 25, 2012, 06:57:49 PM
Hi Gareth, I also have a repaired Shimano Clarus Ultra Light. Repair was done by Solly's in Booysens, it's 'brand new' Nikao broke it swr testing the bend a little to far. You can have it if you want, for a small donation to Angling Angels
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Capt. Hook on November 25, 2012, 10:38:08 PM
WK, I have about 7 ultra light set ups and by far the best of all the small reels is that Okuma iT10, the drag is just soooooo smoooooooooooth which is critical when fishing 1lb or 2lb line. I also have an even smaller reel a Shimano 500
Berkley has a good range of ultra lights, but my favorite is my Silstar Lexus 5'6"
 
I had the pleasure of using an ultra light rod from Japan, made from boron and 3ft long, it was brilliant, but at 5000 Euros out of my reach
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: PH on November 26, 2012, 05:59:46 AM
Would bamboo be a suitable material for making such a rod? My gut feel is that it needs to very, very thin and sensitive.
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Capt. Hook on November 26, 2012, 07:38:58 AM
Would bamboo be a suitable material for making such a rod? My gut feel is that it needs to very, very thin and sensitive.
Split cane, yes not a whole piece.
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: PH on November 26, 2012, 07:41:06 AM
Would bamboo be a suitable material for making such a rod? My gut feel is that it needs to very, very thin and sensitive.
Split cane, yes not a whole piece.
That will be tricky  :-(
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Capt. Hook on November 26, 2012, 07:50:50 AM
Would bamboo be a suitable material for making such a rod? My gut feel is that it needs to very, very thin and sensitive.
Split cane, yes not a whole piece.
That will be tricky  :-(
Thats how all traditional and fly rods where made way back when.......
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: dodger on November 26, 2012, 07:53:42 AM
Would bamboo be a suitable material for making such a rod? My gut feel is that it needs to very, very thin and sensitive.
Split cane, yes not a whole piece.
That will be tricky  :-(
Thats how all traditional and fly rods where made way back when.......
I have a split cane rod that belonged to my Dad, it is a thing of beauty
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Capt. Hook on November 26, 2012, 07:57:34 AM
Would bamboo be a suitable material for making such a rod? My gut feel is that it needs to very, very thin and sensitive.
Split cane, yes not a whole piece.
That will be tricky  :-(
Thats how all traditional and fly rods where made way back when.......
I have a split cane rod that belonged to my Dad, it is a thing of beauty
:envy
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: PH on November 26, 2012, 07:59:28 AM
Split cane rods require some seriously accurate jigs and years of experience.
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Capt. Hook on November 26, 2012, 08:00:53 AM
Split cane rods require some seriously accurate jigs and years of experience.
A good challenge for a man with your talents.... w;k
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 26, 2012, 08:04:15 AM
Thanks for all the replies guys, had a look at various setups yesterday, ended up getting a shimano scimitar 5'6. It is an awesome little rod, to be honest wasnt very impressed with the eyes on the berkley rods. So at the moment that is going to be paired with a shimano fx 1000, for the time being, will look at the okuma  :-)
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: PH on November 26, 2012, 08:06:43 AM
Thanks for all the replies guys, had a look at various setups yesterday, ended up getting a shimano scimitar 5'6. It is an awesome little rod, to be honest wasnt very impressed with the eyes on the berkley rods. So at the moment that is going to be paired with a shimano fx 1000, for the time being, will look at the okuma  :-)
Pic of the rod please??
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Capt. Hook on November 26, 2012, 08:07:36 AM
Thanks for all the replies guys, had a look at various setups yesterday, ended up getting a shimano scimitar 5'6. It is an awesome little rod, to be honest wasnt very impressed with the eyes on the berkley rods. So at the moment that is going to be paired with a shimano fx 1000, for the time being, will look at the okuma  :-)
Scimitar is nice, I have one just a bit "floppy" I prefer a stiffer rod  :dunno:
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Capt. Hook on November 26, 2012, 08:08:48 AM
BTW I love taking my Micro set ups and targeting bonnies and mackerel off shore  :clwn
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 26, 2012, 08:13:06 AM
It is a bit floppy FA, but I reckon it'll be perfect for targeting micros, it is so sensitive! One piece rod as well, throws up to 3/4 of an ounce  :hehe: :happ: throwing for binnies and mackies must be insane on a setup like that  :shk

PH here it is...
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Capt. Hook on November 26, 2012, 08:15:14 AM
throwing for binnies and mackies must be insane on a setup like that  :shk


Truthfully its some of my best fishing memories, its is just crazy fun. Take a whole spare spool of line with, you get spooled often  :-)
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: Ziggy on November 26, 2012, 08:21:30 AM
It is a bit floppy FA, but I reckon it'll be perfect for targeting micros, it is so sensitive! One piece rod as well, throws up to 3/4 of an ounce  :hehe: :happ: throwing for binnies and mackies must be insane on a setup like that  :shk

PH here it is...


I bought a scimitar 6'6" for blacktail  - fine, but the reel seat stripped within a few months - and the guides rusted pretty fast. After that I bought a Clarus, no rust and reel seat perfect (3 years of constant use)
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 26, 2012, 08:22:12 AM
Wow... That doesnt happen very often, what sort of size do you target on the light stuff? I cant even imagine how those fish must caine you on ultra light stuff  :envy
Title: Re: Microfishing Setup
Post by: WalkersKiller on November 26, 2012, 08:22:52 AM
It is a bit floppy FA, but I reckon it'll be perfect for targeting micros, it is so sensitive! One piece rod as well, throws up to 3/4 of an ounce  :hehe: :happ: throwing for binnies and mackies must be insane on a setup like that  :shk

PH here it is...


I bought a scimitar 6'6" for blacktail  - fine, but the reel seat stripped within a few months - and the guides rusted pretty fast. After that I bought a Clarus, no rust and reel seat perfect (3 years of constant use)
Eish, will have to take care of it very carefully then...
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