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Title: Spot the Dassie
Post by: hrogers on May 29, 2012, 04:07:06 PM
Dassie is napping on the rocks - See if you can spot it !!
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 29, 2012, 06:04:11 PM
Got it! I am not too fond of heights like this.  :-(
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: John F on May 29, 2012, 06:05:03 PM
What's a Dassie? :cnfzd
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 29, 2012, 06:06:51 PM
It is a Rock Rabbit.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: John F on May 29, 2012, 06:08:09 PM
Ah... thanks!
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 29, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
I once ate Dassie and it tasted like lamb.  w;k
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Ziggy on May 29, 2012, 06:25:44 PM
and its nearest relative is......? Who knows the surprising answer?
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 29, 2012, 06:35:27 PM
I do!   :hehe: :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Ziggy on May 29, 2012, 06:48:59 PM
SAfish got it right by PM!
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 29, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
um ..... elephant.. ??
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Toppie on May 29, 2012, 08:32:18 PM
Must be a cane rat?
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 29, 2012, 08:44:10 PM
Nah its the elephant.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Toppie on May 29, 2012, 09:08:40 PM
Nah its the elephant.

Heard that one, but must be from around 7 trillion years ago. Like our closest relative is supposed to be the chimp which we evolved from, but if we evolved from them how come chimps aren't extinct and still around?
 
If an elephant is related to a Dassie something must have gone seriously wrong somewhere down the line.
 
I say blame the Americans.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: John F on May 29, 2012, 09:13:32 PM
Like our closest relative is supposed to be the chimp which we evolved from, but if we evolved from them how come chimps aren't extinct and still around?

Nope... we share a common ancestor... otherwise chimps would still be turning into humans?! :nuts:


I say blame the Americans.

 :corrct:
 
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 29, 2012, 09:13:54 PM
I say blame the Americans.
:hyst: :hyst:
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: MIKE PIKE on May 29, 2012, 09:14:08 PM
 :hyst:   :hyst:  thank goodness something went wrong , can't imagine a 4 ton dassie jumping around on the rocks behind you while you trying to concentrate on the fishing .... still not sure where the dassie is in the picture , maybe just below the bushes on the flat piece of rock , more or less in center of photo.. :dunno: .
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Toppie on May 29, 2012, 09:27:43 PM
Like our closest relative is supposed to be the chimp which we evolved from, but if we evolved from them how come chimps aren't extinct and still around?

Nope... we share a common ancestor... otherwise chimps would still be turning into humans?! :nuts:


I say blame the Americans.

 :corrct:

Thats exactly one of my arguments against the evolution theory, I dont share the same ancestory as apes and neither did I or my forefathers evolve from the sea/water, we were also never single cell amoeba's or pond scum, and I have no common DNA from people who hail from the Karoo!
 
@ Mike, you right, imagine a drilling that a 4 ton Dassie can give you while fishing from the rocks   :hehe:
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: REEFMAN on May 30, 2012, 08:07:29 AM
Like our closest relative is supposed to be the chimp which we evolved from, but if we evolved from them how come chimps aren't extinct and still around?

Nope... we share a common ancestor... otherwise chimps would still be turning into humans?! :nuts:


I say blame the Americans.

 :corrct:

Thats exactly one of my arguments against the evolution theory, I dont share the same ancestory as apes and neither did I or my forefathers evolve from the sea/water, we were also never single cell amoeba's or pond scum, and I have no common DNA from people who hail from the Karoo!
 

 (clap)
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Willie on May 30, 2012, 08:21:44 AM
No cant spot no dassie.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Hooch on May 30, 2012, 09:42:41 AM
It is a Rock Rabbit.
No its not. Rock rabbit is completely different. Its a hyrax.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Hooch on May 30, 2012, 09:49:47 AM
Like our closest relative is supposed to be the chimp which we evolved from, but if we evolved from them how come chimps aren't extinct and still around?

Nope... we share a common ancestor... otherwise chimps would still be turning into humans?! :nuts:


I say blame the Americans.




 :corrct:

Thats exactly one of my arguments against the evolution theory, I dont share the same ancestory as apes and neither did I or my forefathers evolve from the sea/water, we were also never single cell amoeba's or pond scum, and I have no common DNA from people who hail from the Karoo!
 
@ Mike, you right, imagine a drilling that a 4 ton Dassie can give you while fishing from the rocks   :hehe:
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Strangely the resemblance is there.

Look at the paw structure of a elaphant and a hyrax. The paws are exactly the same as with the teeth of the two individuals.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Ziggy on May 30, 2012, 09:50:21 AM
Nah its the elephant.

Heard that one, but must be from around 7 trillion years ago. Like our closest relative is supposed to be the chimp which we evolved from, but if we evolved from them how come chimps aren't extinct and still around?
 
If an elephant is related to a Dassie something must have gone seriously wrong somewhere down the line.
 
I say blame the Americans.


Scientists have sequenced the genome of the chimpanzee and found that humans are 96 percent similar to the great ape species. "Darwin wasn't just provocative in saying that we descend from the apes—he didn't go far enough," said Frans de Waal, a primate scientist at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. "We are apes in every way, from our long arms and tailless bodies to our habits and temperament." (see http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html))


However,  there is a study a controversial new study contends that Orangutans may be the  closest human relatives, not chimps. The authors base their conclusion on a  close physical resemblance between orangutans and humans, which they say has  been overshadowed by genetic evidence linking us to chimps. John Grehan, of the  Buffalo Museum of Science in New York State, and Jeffrey Schwartz, of the  University of Pittsburgh in Pennsylvania, say that the DNA evidence cited by  many scientists only looks at a small percentage of the human and chimp  genomes. What's more, the genetic similarities likely include many ancient DNA  traits that are shared across a much broader group of animals. By contrast,  humans share at least 28 unique physical characteristics with orangutans but  only 2 with chimps and 7 with gorillas, the authors say. The finding, which has  the potential to spark a radical rethink of human origins, is being met with  caution. (see http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/06/090623-humans-chimps-related.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/06/090623-humans-chimps-related.html))
We should not confuse ourselves -  we did not evolve from Chimps - but we evolved from the same family group - so we are just another branch of apes



Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Ziggy on May 30, 2012, 09:59:55 AM
Dassies are the closest related relatives to Elephants, despite the enormous difference in size between the two, research has claimed the dassie is the African elephant’s closest living relative. A new discovery has revealed that the oldest ancestors of modern-day elephants were little bigger than a rabbit.
A 60 million-year-old skull dug up in Morocco has been identified as the earliest form of elephant species. This creature was trunk-less, measured less than 50 cm from tip to tail and weighed just 5kg. The mini-jumbo had front incisors which jutted out of its mouth to form the forerunner of the modern tusks.
Analysis of the teeth in the skull proved it was related, however distant, to the modern elephant. It is 10 million years older than other Elephant ancestor fossils discovered.
Dassies are members of the Afrotheria - related to  elephants, sea cows, tenrecs, elephant shrews and the aardvark.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 30, 2012, 10:14:34 AM
It is a Rock Rabbit.
No its not. Rock rabbit is completely different. Its a hyrax.
Rock rabbit
From Wikipedia
Rock rabbit can refer to:
Hyraxes, mammals of the Order Hyracoidea
Pikas, mammals of the Family Ochotonidae
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Hooch on May 30, 2012, 10:46:42 AM
It is a Rock Rabbit.
No its not. Rock rabbit is completely different. Its a hyrax.
Rock rabbit
From Wikipedia
Rock rabbit can refer to:
Hyraxes, mammals of the Order Hyracoidea
Pic of a Rock Rabbit
Pikas, mammals of the Family Ochotonidae
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Prego on May 30, 2012, 11:14:20 AM
So where is this elusive Dassie come elephant
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 30, 2012, 11:20:33 AM
http://www.biodiversityexplorer.org/mammals/hyracoidea/procavia_capensis.htm (http://www.biodiversityexplorer.org/mammals/hyracoidea/procavia_capensis.htm)
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: hrogers on May 30, 2012, 12:07:45 PM
The dassie (rock rabbit) sit on the ledge that look like a chair.

here is the photo hopefully we will see it now
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: hrogers on May 30, 2012, 12:19:17 PM
Here is a bigger picture of the rocks
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 30, 2012, 12:27:07 PM
The dassie (rock rabbit) sit on the ledge that look like a chair.

here is the photo hopefully we will see it now


OK, sorry, I did not get it right. :blush: I thought it was the rounded rock slightly lower and to the left. You can actually see the rock is stained darker by their urine.
I enjoyed this thread, thanks hrodgers.  :+ cred:
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Willie on May 30, 2012, 12:34:12 PM
Damn good thing I am not an Eagle will die of starvation or maybe time to get better glasses  :hehe:
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: LUPO on May 30, 2012, 12:37:04 PM
Damn good thing I am not an Eagle will die of starvation or maybe time to get better glasses  :hehe:

 :hyst: I was sitting here thinking the same thing!  I am quite prepared to put money on me needing glasses though.

@hrogers - great thread.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: icstuff on May 30, 2012, 12:48:22 PM
Damn good thing I am not an Eagle will die of starvation or maybe time to get better glasses  :hehe:

X2

I have to add that I am glad that I dont make a living from fishing cause my fishing skills are worse than my dassie hunting skills.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 30, 2012, 01:06:03 PM
Did you guys know that you can also fish for Dassie? Most of you have probably caught one of this common fish species. Who knows which species I am referring to?  :hnthnt:
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Willie on May 30, 2012, 01:07:51 PM
Its a Blacktail
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: icstuff on May 30, 2012, 01:11:21 PM
Its a Blacktail

Willie this is why we cant see it, it is in the water  duh
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 30, 2012, 01:11:50 PM
Its a Blacktail
:win:
The only Dassie I saw in the photo was behind the first breaker.  :crzy
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Willie on May 30, 2012, 01:15:00 PM
Its a Blacktail

Willie this is why we cant see it, it is in the water  duh
Ok going to put on my special polaroids glasses then maybe will it be spotted  :hehe:
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: SAfish on May 30, 2012, 01:16:49 PM
Icstuff, how is that for posting the same thing at the same time.  :hehe:
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: REEFMAN on May 30, 2012, 01:17:30 PM

We should not confuse ourselves -  we did not evolve from Chimps - but we evolved from the same family group - so we are just another branch of apes

Maybe you are family of an ape/primate species. I certainly am not. I was created.
But best we don't go further with this controversial subject.
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Ziggy on May 30, 2012, 01:32:32 PM

We should not confuse ourselves -  we did not evolve from Chimps - but we evolved from the same family group - so we are just another branch of apes

Maybe you are family of an ape/primate species. I certainly am not. I was created.
But best we don't go further with this controversial subject.


this is a big debate - but UA is not the place for it - agreed, lets not get into it
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Toppie on May 30, 2012, 01:55:39 PM
Only one who can catch that Dassie on those ledges/stone faces is Half Pint, casting his grinder aimed at the Black Tail in the water below!
Title: Re: Spot the Dassie
Post by: Willie on May 30, 2012, 02:03:01 PM
Only one who can catch that Dassie on those ledges/stone faces is Half Pint, casting his grinder aimed at the Black Tail in the water below!
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