Author
Topic: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines  (Read 5757 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online WalkersKiller

  • Fish The Sea | Fish The Fly | Gareth Roocroft
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 12345
  • Cred: 363
  • Gender: Male
  • Conservation First!
  • Location: Edenvale, Gauteng
Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« on: May 16, 2013, 04:43:56 pm »



Micro fishing tackle brings a new definition to the word "ultra light" as the tackle used in this application of angling has to be extremely light in order to catch your fish without spooking them and also to enjoy the fight once the fish is hooked. There is no dedicated tackle to Micro Fishing, so one has to make a plan in order to find what you are looking for. Fly Fishing shops can be especially good in this regard and you can find many great things to use for micro fishing.

Rods For Micro Fishing

Besides the hooks you use for Micro Fishing, the actual rod is the most important part of your equipment, the reason being: Smaller fish get spooked easier and feed more shyly. There are 3 different "classes" of Micro Fishing Rods available to choose from: Long rods (9-14 feet), Short rods (4-6 feet) and small rods (1-2 feet). The smaller rods are fun to use but take the whole fishing aspect out of micro fishing for me so I prefer to stick with the longer and shorter rods. I will generally carry both.

What To Look For In A Micro Fishing Rod

The rod must be very light and sensitive, in order to hook the fish and play it gently so it doesn't come off the hook. In the short rod range I would look at the Shimano Scimitar 5 foot rod, very light tip and tried and tested for the micro fishing application. In a longer rod I will use a Fly Fishing rod, you don't need anything expensive in this case, look at the cheaper Elbe and Stealth brands and you will come right, I like to use a 12 foot fly rod here.

Reels For Micro Fishing

You can use a spinning "coffee grinder" reel or a bass baitcaster reel for Micro Fishing. I prefer spinning reels for the simple reason you do not generally need to cast when Micro Fishing and they are easier to look after and service than bait casting reels. If you are looking for a small bait caster, Shimano, Daiwa and Abu Garcia all have very small bait casters you can purchase that will do the job quite well. Spinning reels should be as small as possible and generally not bigger than a size 1000. I really like the Ryobi 500, and you can also look at other brands that have smaller size reels such as Tica, Shimano, Daiwa and Okuma.

Micro Fishing Line & Leader

Monofilament or braided lines can be used for Micro Fishing, but when using a spinning reel, the lightest possible braid you can find (Must be under 10lbs) should be used in my opinion. Then the leader is also very important, as light as you are willing to go is the best option. The smaller fish do get spooked and will be reluctant to bite if a heavy leader is used. Once again the fly fishing shops can come to your rescue here as they have some extremely light and thin line which has low visibility in the water. I would not recommend going heavier than 3lb's for your leader line. I prefer to use Maxima ultra green as my leader (I think it is 2.8 lb).

Micro Fishing Terminal Tackle: Hooks, Weights, Floats & Bite Indicators

Terminal tackle is very important, especially the hooks. Most of the hook size you want will have to be bought from the fly fishing section of fishing shops. One should never use a hook larger than size #8, and anything smaller than that is perfect, the smaller the hook, the more "invisible" it will be to the fish, therefore the more chance you will have catching it. When fishing freshwater I would use between #20 and #26 to target fish, the make and quality is not too important here, but when fishing saltwater I struggle to use anything less than a #18, just because of the fish species you are targeting especially around rocks and structure, a small Blacktail can easily straighten a poor quality hook. I was lucky to find a packet of #16 Diachii's and they have been amazing, have not seen this size again unfortunately and I think I am down to 2 hooks. Just pick your hooks as carefully as possible. Hooks with long shanks are much better for this application.

Weights are very important, for the spooking reason and how it limits your bite "feeling". The smallest split shot you can find should be used, fished 10 centimeters above your hook. The role of the weight is to either get your bait onto the bottom and allow limited movement or to keep a float straight up in the water in the perfect position.

Small, lightweight floats are required for micro fishing. The floats that should be used are the porcupine quill style floats or the longer floats. The ball floats do not work well at all. The smaller and lighter your float, the better.

Bite indicators can be used if you require them. Anything you can manufacture here that will help you pick up the smaller bites is perfect, whether the bite indicator is placed on the top of your rod, somewhere on the line, or in the same position as where your float would be. It can help sometimes to bare this in mind.

Offline kaptein delarey

  • The Erratic Jerk
  • Senior Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Apr 2012
  • Posts: 109
  • Cred: 23
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Robindale, Gauteng
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2013, 10:42:57 am »
Great to see other guys that are also targetting micros.

For the last year or so, I've been trying to catch as many micro species as possible, but all on artlure.

Haven't been to the coast in ages, so up to now only freshwater species.

Have caught mini bass, blue kurper, vlei kurper, canary kurper, dwarf kurper - and my smallest micros to date - western mosquito fish (and by far the hardest to catch).

For a long time I tried to catch mosquito fish using #28 Tiemco (TMC 100) dry fly hooks, the smallest I could find in the shops, but struggled to get any hookups.

I then came across Owner tanago hooks, used in Japan to catch tiny bitterling. They strive to catch the smallest possible fish, with a bitterling that fits on a 1 Yen coin being the holy grail, so to speak.



The micro-fishing guys in the USA and UK have also been using these Owner tanago hooks with great success in catching their native micro fish.

So, end of last year I bought a packet of these hooks online - and I haven't looked back since.

With a tiny (smaller than 1mmx1mm) piece of lure/bait pushed just past the barb, I've caught numerous micros, including my first mosquito fish on these hooks. (I'll try and take a pic of this rig and post it soon.)

?

The hook essentially looks like a micro "van der merwe" hook, but has no eye, so it needs to be snelled using a hook tier gadget. I snell a length of thin (5X - 7X) fly fishing tippet to my hooks, as thicker line slips off when snelled.



As one mostly only "dip" for micros, I use a small spinning rod outfit, but also a 4m telescopic whip, similar to a tenkara rod - very handy for hard-to-reach spots off the bank, but can also fish its shorter sections.

I'll be ordering myself a couple packets of Owner tanago hooks, in preparation for spring/summer. If you or any other members on the forum are interested, I could put together a bigger order to bring down shipping charges, etc... (21 hooks per packet @ +/- R60)

So let me know.

Cheers
Werner


Online WalkersKiller

  • Fish The Sea | Fish The Fly | Gareth Roocroft
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 12345
  • Cred: 363
  • Gender: Male
  • Conservation First!
  • Location: Edenvale, Gauteng
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 10:52:33 am »
Werner,  :welc: great to have someone who is really interested in micro's! Its really awesome, well done of the Mozzie, have tried myself but been unsuccessful. Would love to hear more about your techniques and what species you have caught etc. And I would love to order some of those hooks when you do if you dont mind?

Offline kaptein delarey

  • The Erratic Jerk
  • Senior Member
  • **
  • Join Date: Apr 2012
  • Posts: 109
  • Cred: 23
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Robindale, Gauteng
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 01:12:16 pm »
Thanks, will do some reports soon and contact you when ordering the hooks.

Cheers

Online WalkersKiller

  • Fish The Sea | Fish The Fly | Gareth Roocroft
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 12345
  • Cred: 363
  • Gender: Male
  • Conservation First!
  • Location: Edenvale, Gauteng
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 01:14:19 pm »
Awesome  :tkx:

Offline Lenny

  • Ultimate Champ
  • ****
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 2972
  • Cred: 119
  • Gender: Male
  • Catch and Release
  • Location: Struisbaai Ex Somerset West
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2013, 03:48:49 pm »

Super thread .

I will post some of my Tackle I use , in rivers ect . [size=78%] My fav stick is a glass rod thats older than me , love it to bits ![/size]

Online WalkersKiller

  • Fish The Sea | Fish The Fly | Gareth Roocroft
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 12345
  • Cred: 363
  • Gender: Male
  • Conservation First!
  • Location: Edenvale, Gauteng
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2013, 03:51:27 pm »
Awesome Lenny, looking forward to seeing it!

Offline Lenny

  • Ultimate Champ
  • ****
  • Join Date: May 2011
  • Posts: 2972
  • Cred: 119
  • Gender: Male
  • Catch and Release
  • Location: Struisbaai Ex Somerset West
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 03:55:22 pm »
Obviously these threads opens up some major debate ,on a number of things .
The first would be , mono of Braid ? I prefer mono as I started way before we had braid available in Sa . anyway Will post some pictures ...

Offline Fish - n - Chicks

  • Member
  • *
  • Join Date: Apr 2013
  • Posts: 180
  • Cred: 12
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Richards Bay
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 04:00:01 pm »
First time i actually hear of micro fishing. Never knew it was like in really micro.

Looks like fun.

Do you have any more pics of small fish ?
Good things come to those who bait.

Online WalkersKiller

  • Fish The Sea | Fish The Fly | Gareth Roocroft
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 12345
  • Cred: 363
  • Gender: Male
  • Conservation First!
  • Location: Edenvale, Gauteng
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 04:06:10 pm »
Fish n Chicks have a look here : http://www.ultimateangling.co.za/index.php?topic=12139.0

Lenny I prefer targeting micros with mono, have read that many guys dont like using braid for micros, because of the lack of stretch.

Offline Fish - n - Chicks

  • Member
  • *
  • Join Date: Apr 2013
  • Posts: 180
  • Cred: 12
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Richards Bay
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2013, 04:08:59 pm »
Thanks WK

Will get the wife to join me then she will love fishing she does not like the wait for the bite part of fishing.


Good things come to those who bait.

Online WalkersKiller

  • Fish The Sea | Fish The Fly | Gareth Roocroft
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 12345
  • Cred: 363
  • Gender: Male
  • Conservation First!
  • Location: Edenvale, Gauteng
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2013, 04:10:39 pm »
I will post more pics in that thread now, micros are so cool!

Offline isivuba

  • Ultimate Hero
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2012
  • Posts: 2946
  • Cred: 265
  • Gender: Male
  • Work pays for the fishing trips
  • Location: Pretoria "Other side the boere wors curtain"
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2013, 04:14:07 pm »
WK have had these micro rods for about 2years now. Bought them for my son but he what to fish with the big rods. You welcome to them have two blue and one lime green.  :dunno:

Online WalkersKiller

  • Fish The Sea | Fish The Fly | Gareth Roocroft
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 12345
  • Cred: 363
  • Gender: Male
  • Conservation First!
  • Location: Edenvale, Gauteng
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2013, 04:18:16 pm »
 :hehe: thanks Mike, I am sorted though, have a 10 foot fly rod and a 5'6 shimano spinning rod that I use  :-)

Offline isivuba

  • Ultimate Hero
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2012
  • Posts: 2946
  • Cred: 265
  • Gender: Male
  • Work pays for the fishing trips
  • Location: Pretoria "Other side the boere wors curtain"
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2013, 04:24:34 pm »
Cool......the rods are not toys by the way they are real rods. They about one 2' in length. see pic with a baitcaster

Online WalkersKiller

  • Fish The Sea | Fish The Fly | Gareth Roocroft
  • Moderator
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2010
  • Posts: 12345
  • Cred: 363
  • Gender: Male
  • Conservation First!
  • Location: Edenvale, Gauteng
Re: Micro Fishing Tackle Requirements & Guidelines
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2013, 04:29:54 pm »
Thanks Mike, I prefer longer rods though with an extremely sensitive tip  :-)