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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2013, 07:31:23 pm »
That's them! The bottom pic is this boat broching ? Looks like the nose is leaning to the left if u were behind the wheel same thing my boat does!!
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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2013, 08:02:49 pm »
no broaching is when the one sponsoon nose digs into the water

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2013, 08:15:52 pm »
The boat shouldn't broach in freshwater on a dam.
 
Deepblu, is this a new or used boat?
 
I humbly suggest that you take an old experienced hand like Rory with you to the water to check this out because it could be serious. Find it strange if this is a new boat, if it is ID the problem and take it back to the factory.
 
If its not new check for sign of water ingress in the hull. Did you perhaps not also forget to put your hull or fish hold bung plugs in?
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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2013, 08:40:38 pm »
I think the term is "listing" - as the guys say, adjusting your trim should help!

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2013, 08:44:00 pm »
I think the term is "listing" - as the guys say, adjusting your trim should help!
:corrct: Was thinking the same thing.....have one on my motor trimmed one notch lower then the other motor.

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2013, 09:00:38 pm »
have you got trim gauges fitted ? the best is to start with both motors fully trimmed in then get on the plain at the slowest speed it will stay on the plain. trim one motor out at a time and you will feel the boat lean you need to compensate to get it leve0l. it takes a while to get use to it with a cat as can be very unnerving

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2013, 09:01:37 pm »
you more than welcom to bring it to the vaal river and i can come for a ride

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2013, 09:59:18 pm »
@ Toppie it is a bran new boat i just put 2hrs on it this weekend yip all plugs were in.
@ Rory no i don't have any trim guages fitted would really like to take u up on that offer to take her for a spin

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2013, 10:10:47 pm »
Deepblu, for a brand new boat with all the teething problems you are having is completely unacceptable. Suggest you offer whoever sold you the boat that you will take it to their nominated agent here in JNB and have these problems sorted out at their cost.
 
By what you explained your boat more than lists, rather a combo of listing, perhaps nose heavy and porpoising. Forget about broaching you will only learn and discover that with a following sea not on the dam.
 
Perhaps see and take Rory along to the Vaal river, think he can give you an expert opinion. Load it then again say two persons and then five people to see how the weight affects the boat. Also simulate a heavy load ie. the number of persons you want to fish, something making up the balance of all other equipment and tackle, and the number of spugs of fuel you will be carrying (can replace fuel with water).
 
You should be happy with nothing less than a perfect boat.
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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2013, 06:26:36 am »
Deepblu, for a brand new boat with all the teething problems you are having is completely unacceptable. Suggest you offer whoever sold you the boat that you will take it to their nominated agent here in JNB and have these problems sorted out at their cost.
 
By what you explained your boat more than lists, rather a combo of listing, perhaps nose heavy and porpoising. Forget about broaching you will only learn and discover that with a following sea not on the dam.
 
Perhaps see and take Rory along to the Vaal river, think he can give you an expert opinion. Load it then again say two persons and then five people to see how the weight affects the boat. Also simulate a heavy load ie. the number of persons you want to fish, something making up the balance of all other equipment and tackle, and the number of spugs of fuel you will be carrying (can replace fuel with water).
 
You should be happy with nothing less than a perfect boat.

Is this a SAILFISH Toppie? Don't you know other owners we can cross check for this behaviour?

@DeepBlu
Did you buy from manufacturers or private?
Did you have ANY modification done, i.e., had things moved around like hartches or cabinets?

Take me a couple of pic of the back side of the boat please, I want a look at your tunnel and motor placements please
 

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2013, 11:55:10 am »
hi you need to trim your  starboard bow upwards to get that sorted.jentan.

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2013, 12:41:25 pm »
Jaen bought it new straight from the factory all standard all i added extra  was the 2 bum boxes and that was factory fitted. I will past some pics.
@jentan thank u for the input

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2013, 03:03:23 pm »
i would say it is just a triming issue so don't worry yet, i can make my boat do the same when very badly trimmed it really helps to have trim gauges and with your boat smart craft is great with the mercs.

i will be around this weekend want to put my skivee in for a test

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2013, 02:09:51 pm »
what would the smart craft do help with broaching?

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2013, 02:20:54 pm »
from what i can gather from the posts i must agree that it is a trim issue.
Trim port side up a fraction or starboard side down a fraction. should resolve the issue.

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2013, 02:27:55 pm »
Have to agree does not seem a major issue, cat hulls on flat water are very different and a little bit of trim on one engine can through it off big time.

If you have not got trim gauges fitted get yourself a pair ASAP it will help improve your skippering the crafts ride and fuel consumption too. Like Rory says start with both engines right down.

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2013, 02:36:41 pm »
deepblu is it your first cat you have owned ? have you skipped a cat before ?

we have just upgraded from a mono to a cat and had a similar thing happen if you are not used to a cat its an adjustment, all it takes is to trim one motor slightly and she should run true
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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2013, 02:41:13 pm »
@Rory  i played around with friction knob seemed to sort out the problem.

Ok guys so i was able to put the boat on the water for the first  time unfortunately not the sea but the vaaldam. Time to put her thru her paces first time round we were 2 up on the boat bought her on the plane as she got on the plain the boat started dip to the left i didn't think much of this as i didn't take note of my revs. Second time round it did the same thing this time i made sure my revs were the same is was sitting at 4000rpm. Third trip around i had 5 crew members on board making sure i place the wieght as even as i could, again i opened up the throttle  to bring her on the plain the nose had just come down when the boat dipped to left again this time it was bad. The response from my crew was "that wasn't cool thought  we were gonna flip "  what would cause the boat to cavitate hope this is the right word to use sorry I'm very new to ski boats what do i do to correct  this?

It sounds like you have water in the port sponson.
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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2013, 03:50:04 pm »
@ Lebaka yes its my first cat actually my first boat that's why I say its all new to me
 
@ dugonboy I dono about the water its a new boat and only got wet for the first time on Saturday the broaching happened with in the first 5 min on the water

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Re: My new sailfish 176
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2013, 03:54:08 pm »
Get it checked out, water ingress happens fast but can also come from rain/washing. Remember 70l is 70kgs moving around in the hull, it has a huge impact on the balance of a small boat!!
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